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Lone Goat posted:last I checked cats have (scrabbling) claws Alright that's a good one
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Tom Clancy is Dead posted:There was a brief moment of cat tribal being legitimately tier 2 in Standard. I still fondly remember my daughter's deck prior to last fall's rotation running away with games where her board state was just 1/1 lifelink cat tokens spilling off her playmat. A judge call where her opponent didn't believe that multiple copies of Annointed Procession worked exactly like your math teacher taught you. I still have the pieces and am pondering making her a Pioneer deck with it. Kurtofan posted:Whats a walgreens to a non-american? Some kind of walmart? Primarilly a drug/convenience store. Pick up your prescriptions and a stick of deodorant, grab a thing of chips on your way out kind of deal. They have a toy aisle with a small selection overpriced toys for your kids to nag you into buying while you do so, which includes bubble-carded boosters and planeswalker decks.
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Kurtofan posted:Whats a walgreens to a non-american? Some kind of walmart? Walgreens is a pharmacy/convenience store chain here. No connection to walmart as far as I am aware.
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Owlbear Camus posted:I still fondly remember my daughter's deck prior to last fall's rotation running away with games where her board state was just 1/1 lifelink cat tokens spilling off her playmat. A judge call where her opponent didn't believe that multiple copies of Annointed Procession worked exactly like your math teacher taught you. Would love to play enchantment tribal with bitterblossoms and parallel lives/ anointed processions. Would be wayyyy too slow
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Owlbear Camus posted:Primarilly a drug/convenience store. Pick up your prescriptions and a stick of deodorant, grab a thing of chips on your way out kind of deal. They have a toy aisle with a small selection overpriced toys for your kids to nag you into buying while you do so, which includes bubble-carded boosters and planeswalker decks. They also inexplicably get toy exclusivity deals from Hasbro, so if you collect Marvel Legends figs, have fun going to a loving drug store constantly looking for specific ones
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Oct 31, 2019 19:26
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Elyv posted:the UR draft theme is very clearly "cast cards during your opponent's turn", which is new and kind of neat there was a bit of of this in Lorwyn faeries, but it was only 3 cards. sounds interesting though, since my two favourite game actions are to draw a card and pass the turn. mods rename me Lone Draw-Goat
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Oct 31, 2019 19:35
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lol wotc just announced they're going to do the first pioneer bans on Monday (instead of waiting for the next B&R), love to have a pissing contest between hasbro and scg
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Oct 31, 2019 19:38
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Skyl3lazer posted:lol wotc just announced they're going to do the first pioneer bans on Monday (instead of waiting for the next B&R), love to have a pissing contest between hasbro and scg What in the world
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Skyl3lazer posted:lol wotc just announced they're going to do the first pioneer bans on Monday (instead of waiting for the next B&R), love to have a pissing contest between hasbro and scg https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1189974044722024449?s=19 Myself I've only done tournament practice and didn't see anything too busted, but no Marvel etc yet either. Might be time to try a league.
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TheKingofSprings posted:What in the world They did say they were going to do a bunch and whenever.
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lol Standard is fine, it's the brand new format that has barely seen competitive play that needs the quick bans
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Skyl3lazer posted:lol wotc just announced they're going to do the first pioneer bans on Monday (instead of waiting for the next B&R), love to have a pissing contest between hasbro and scg They already announced they were going to do off-cycle bans. How is this a pissing contest, unless you think that Wizards is doing this to ruin attendance at a Pioneer SCG event next weekend?
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Lone Goat posted:there was a bit of of this in Lorwyn faeries, but it was only 3 cards. sounds interesting though, since my two favourite game actions are to draw a card and pass the turn. oh yeah I forgot about that, rip Dreamspoiler Witches
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I don't know about a "pissing match" but it's pants-on-head stupid to announce a format and then release the banlist 15 days later. Either do both at the same time or let the format breathe before you ban poo poo.
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LifeLynx posted:They already announced they were going to do off-cycle bans. How is this a pissing contest, unless you think that Wizards is doing this to ruin attendance at a Pioneer SCG event next weekend? Eh, they specifically mentioned paper tournaments in the tweet and its probably not a coincidence considering how high profile the scg change is. To be honest, even if they ban something the monday before the invitational its not going to ruin the hyped interest in the format. If anything, it might make it more so.
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wotc getting progressively and aggressively dumber with every passing day is wild y'all
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Just lol if Oko is banned in pioneer before standard
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I don't read that announcement as "we are definitely banning something on 11/4", just that the first B&R update for Pioneer is that day. Do the MTGO data bear out a clear best deck right now?
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:I don't know about a "pissing match" but it's pants-on-head stupid to announce a format and then release the banlist 15 days later. Either do both at the same time or let the format breathe before you ban poo poo. They specifically said they would be doing this kind of thing when they created the format, so if you ran out and bought a bunch of cards immediately, you knew some of them might become worthless quickly. Financial reasons are basically the only downside to having bans this quickly, this is way better than WotC trying to guess what will be broken in the format.
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ShadeofBlue posted:They specifically said they would be doing this kind of thing when they created the format, so if you ran out and bought a bunch of cards immediately, you knew some of them might become worthless quickly. Financial reasons are basically the only downside to having bans this quickly, this is way better than WotC trying to guess what will be broken in the format. ... it's been 15 days, they are still guessing what will be broken in the format
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:I don't know about a "pissing match" but it's pants-on-head stupid to announce a format and then release the banlist 15 days later. Either do both at the same time or let the format breathe before you ban poo poo. Releasing the format with what appeared to be a grand gesture of no banned list (even though anyone smart knew bans were coming) was great marketing. I remember people were skeptical of Modern because it released with a banned list that some thought was a little too overzealous. But you're right, it is pants-on-head stupid to not give people some time to try out new decks, unless there's a clear deck that's far ahead of everything else. Which people have said about Saheeli Cat, but I haven't had first hand experience.
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Sickening posted:Speaking of, wanna see that 3.5k of speculation looks like? this guy sweating yet?
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I mean, they're doing it after their first tournament of any size, so if something does run away with the format they'll do it then. If nothing does they might not ban anything. E: lol @ that dumbass
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I don't think it'd be so annoying to people if they couldn't contrast it with a completely out of control standard they are sitting on their hands about
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Crossing my fingers that Wizards at least waits to ban Cat Combo after I play it at FNM next week, and if they do ban it Monday then I'm hoping I can at least pivot the deck to some sort of Jeskai Control/Planeswalkers deck.
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Oct 31, 2019 20:10
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Can't wait for the Oko ban. In pioneer
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Oct 31, 2019 20:14
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https://twitter.com/mtgaaron/status/1189986628221030400?s=19 Could be nothing, unless that ptq is all cats.
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Fingers McLongDong posted:https://twitter.com/mtgaaron/status/1189986628221030400?s=19 Basically. I'm just hoping Jeskai Ascendancy doesn't become too conspicuous because I really want to play Emry Ascendancy in the format. (Even though it looks like Sylvan Ascendancy is the best use of the card right now.)
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Fingers McLongDong posted:https://twitter.com/mtgaaron/status/1189986628221030400?s=19 God they suck at messaging, no one would care if they had just defined the announcement schedule when they announced the format. Announcing an announcement in a tweet three days in advance is just asking for people to freak out and overreact. Clarifying the announcement of the announcement from a different account is just amazing.
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From my paper pioneer experience and mtgo experience - I don’t see anything warranting a ban at this time and I’m expecting no bans at the time Decks running a higher amount of interaction have done a solid job at beating Saheeli combo (after the initial hiccups of everyone running no removal). Same thing with the ramp / nykthos decks. Oko is strong but with the higher amount of answers in the format it’s able to be taken out. The blue delve spells are impressive when cast but they’re not overpowered and the delve is more difficult to enable. Red is medium/good. Copter is good but honestly has been a little underwhelming - it doesn’t fit in every deck unlike what everyone feared would happen. Marvel / Emrakul / Ulamog haven’t really done anything and almost any deck can take care of those decks. Of course there could be some deck being sandbagged for a major event that has flown completely under the radar
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Dehtraen posted:From my paper pioneer experience and mtgo experience - I don’t see anything warranting a ban at this time and I’m expecting no bans at the time Decks running a higher amount of interaction have done a solid job at beating Saheeli combo (after the initial hiccups of everyone running no removal). Same thing with the ramp / nykthos decks. Oko is strong but with the higher amount of answers in the format it’s able to be taken out. The blue delve spells are impressive when cast but they’re not overpowered and the delve is more difficult to enable. Red is medium/good. Copter is good but honestly has been a little underwhelming - it doesn’t fit in every deck unlike what everyone feared would happen. Marvel / Emrakul / Ulamog haven’t really done anything and almost any deck can take care of those decks. The challenge last sunday had a pretty significant amount of cat decks in the top 32 so it's probably on a watchlist and I'd expect something if it dominates the ptq this weekend. They probably have a short list of cards they're ready to hit if one steps too far out of line.
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Fingers McLongDong posted:https://twitter.com/mtgaaron/status/1189986628221030400?s=19 I wager one Felidar Guardian that SCG splits with WOTC on the Pioneer banlist for at least one event before 6 months are up
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Devor posted:I wager one Felidar Guardian that SCG splits with WOTC on the Pioneer banlist for at least one event before 6 months are up You can do that but it would be unsanctioned magic event. Not that it matters that much.
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Devor posted:I wager one Felidar Guardian that SCG splits with WOTC on the Pioneer banlist for at least one event before 6 months are up They haven't done it before, the last time cat got emergency banned. I dont think they can if they want the event to be sanctioned. Absolutely no one should be surprised if certain cards get banned. If you built what you thought was the best deck with cards that might get banned after they said they'd ban off-schedule as needed, that's a risk you took.
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IMO there are 3 cards that are conceivably bannable if behind the scenes on mtgo the decks that leverage them have 60% winrates. I sincerely hope they don't ban anything yet. Nykthos Dig/Cruise Rai/Felidar The end.
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^^^ this is in line more or less with what I’ve heard a lot of people indicating but also adding Oko since everyone hates that cardFingers McLongDong posted:The challenge last sunday had a pretty significant amount of cat decks in the top 32 so it's probably on a watchlist and I'd expect something if it dominates the ptq this weekend. They probably have a short list of cards they're ready to hit if one steps too far out of line. Totally - but I feel that might be more on the side of it being the fun police for random brews and also clearly being a “tier 1” strategy going into the challenge. It’s definitely strong but beatable. Also probably doesn’t help that the 75 for the mtgo trophy leader was floating around, too. One quick edit - I’ve not seen anyone doing Kethis on mtgo or in paper. I’m a little worried about that deck being too much if it is as good as some people have been saying it is. Dehtraen fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Oct 31, 2019 |
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I don't think they ban anything unless something has a crazy dominant weekend at the PTQ. I agree that right now Felidar Guardian is the closest to getting banned. They're not banning Oko in Pioneer this monday before the MC. Everybody would be too pissed off about Standard, they'd hold off for a week even if they thought it needed to get banned.
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Pioneer is fun. I can run mono black and mono red with themes I like to play.
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Pioneer is fun because I can cast seasons past again. There's lots of neat decks right now and it's refreshing for the moment.
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Copycat is stronger than I thought it was going to be, but I still don't think it's ban worthy. Also, at least it's quick and obvious when it resolves, unlike some combos that have a risk of fizzling so you're forced to watch them play it out. Edit: But I don't play top tier competitive magic so, you know.
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