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Grittybeard posted:He always seemed like an odd hire to me. I liked him well enough but if there was one stick to sports guy on the site it was him. If i recall right he is just a huge stats nerd. I believe that "regressing" sub-page was pretty much all his.
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This whole debacle is just the perfect example of the failure of "profit at all costs" capitalism, (or as its known by its shorter name...."capitalism"). It wasn't enough to make money, they needed to be "EFFICIENT" and to squeeze every bit of revenue they could out of their "investment". That meant making promises to advertisers that they couldn't live up to without enabling auto-play videos and ads (thereby making the user experience that much worse, oh and also they STILL couldn't live up to those numbers). It also meant "trimming the fat" by not "wasting money" to pay writers to write things that weren't specifically about sports. This, too, made the user experience that much worse since the non-sports stuff was part of the reason why people LOVED getting their sports news from Deadspin. You're not inundated with the bullshit non-stories that you see on ESPN's "Top Stories". This is the sports blog equivalent of airlines taking away free poo poo and making the seats smaller and smaller, making the entire experience even more dreadful, so they can save pennies here and there and the executives can buy a yacht 15 feet longer than their old one.
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DJExile posted:If i recall right he is just a huge stats nerd. I believe that "regressing" sub-page was pretty much all his. https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1189942567070289920 I'm apparently remembering him wrong or thinking about someone else, I thought he just got there a couple/three years ago.
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Jezebel: known for it's hard hitting sports blogging: https://theslot.jezebel.com/washing...Rkbl5GBzdkvr-A4
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Mahoning posted:This whole debacle is just the perfect example of the failure of "profit at all costs" capitalism, (or as its known by its shorter name...."capitalism"). It wasn't enough to make money, they needed to be "EFFICIENT" and to squeeze every bit of revenue they could out of their "investment". That meant making promises to advertisers that they couldn't live up to without enabling auto-play videos and ads (thereby making the user experience that much worse, oh and also they STILL couldn't live up to those numbers). It also meant "trimming the fat" by not "wasting money" to pay writers to write things that weren't specifically about sports. This, too, made the user experience that much worse since the non-sports stuff was part of the reason why people LOVED getting their sports news from Deadspin. You're not inundated with the bullshit non-stories that you see on ESPN's "Top Stories". Doesn't seem like seeking profit is the problem, the problem was the guys not understanding the appeal of their own product.
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Seeking quick profit is the problem. Grab the ad revenue right now, set the whole thing on fire and run to the next thing, is the strategy.
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General Dog posted:Doesn't seem like seeking profit is the problem, the problem was the guys not understanding the appeal of their own product. The problem is what if the appeal of the product is not enough to let them hit their 2.5x or more RoI multiple within 3 years before the LPs get fidgety because :thatscapitalism:
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Eric the Mauve posted:Seeking quick profit is the problem. Grab the ad revenue right now, set the whole thing on fire and run to the next thing, is the strategy. The problem is also using the company to borrow the money that you need to buy it ??? And then playing yourself ridiculous fees as you melt down everything to pay the banks back
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Oct 31, 2019 18:10
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As a Twitter idiot who hasn't logged on in years, is there any place (or any awesome goon) where I can find a list of all the (former) Deadspin and related folks twitter info and start following them?
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Oct 31, 2019 18:18
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Voodoofly posted:As a Twitter idiot who hasn't logged on in years, is there any place (or any awesome goon) where I can find a list of all the (former) Deadspin and related folks twitter info and start following them? I keep seeing this posted but it’s more than deadspin
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Oct 31, 2019 18:25
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Boredumb posted:https://twitter.com/SquinterMedia/following That looks like a bunch of current and ex writers of GMG blogs (I see a few ex splinter people on there).
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Boredumb posted:https://twitter.com/SquinterMedia/following Thanks, this is exactly what I was hoping for.
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not deadspin thing https://twitter.com/jon_bois/status/1189945257556877313
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layering season is literally magary's loving nfl preview
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Drew's greatest achievement is calling out all the horrible people who think mayo should be on everything.
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General Dog posted:Doesn't seem like seeking profit is the problem, the problem was the guys not understanding the appeal of their own product. I mean, it’s both. The lack of understanding was displayed in an effort to seek profit. They assumed (because they’re arrogant) that the non-sports stuff limited their audience because it was “divisive” so they issued the mandate because they thought sticking to sports would get more people to view the site and increase the amount of money they could make on ad revenue. These PE buys are 100% about profit. Literally every decision is being made with the goal of increasing profit. It’s not journalism related, but I’d encourage everyone to read the book Glass House about Anchor Hocking to learn more about how these leveraged purchases function and where things end up.
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So, dunno if this has been dug up since I just realized this post was here, but: LITERAL ACTUAL CURRENT DEADSPIN MASTHEAD @ 1:52pm EST on 10/31/19 Editorial Staff Deputy Editor: Barry Petchesky - I'M SPARTACUS Managing Editor: Samer Kalaf - probably going? Features Editor: Tom Ley - gone Senior News Editor: Diana Moskovitz - gone News Editor: Billy Haisley - gone Art Director: Jim Cooke - At the other GMG websites Editor-at-Large: David Roth - gone Staff Editor: Dan McQuade - gone Staff Writers: Drew Magary - gone Albert Burneko - gone Dom Consentino - gone Kelsey McKinney - gone Giri Nathan - gone Luis Paez-Pumar - gone Patrick Redford - gone Lauren Theisen - gone Chris Thompson - gone Laura Wagner - gone Weekend Contributors: Maitreyi Anantharaman - ? Gabe Fernandez - gone? Technical Staff Senior Video Producer: Kiran Chitanvis - ? Creative Producer: Anders Kapur - ? Staff Technologist: Dhruv Mehrotra - ? loving amazing and awesome and get hosed Jim Spanfeller you loving twerpish vampire squid wannabe.
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The other G/O sites seem to be specifically publishing sports stories as a way to open comment threads for people to rage about Deadspin https://kotaku.com/lets-talk-about-sports-video-games-1839504970 https://jezebel.com/i-would-have-sex-with-an-entire-major-league-baseball-t-1839501599
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Jim Spanfeller needs to have his head shoved into a toilet and flushed, repeatedly, imho.
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solarjetman posted:
A strike is for when there is no bargaining agreement between the union and management.
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seiferguy posted:Jezebel: known for it's hard hitting sports blogging: Godfucking damnit, I just realized we're not going to have JezSpin next April Fools Day.
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Oct 31, 2019 19:50
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not that i want to really think hard on the amount of leather the guy has, but doesn't this sort of prove that bissinger was right all those years ago
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Tim Thomas posted:not that i want to really think hard on the amount of leather the guy has, but doesn't this sort of prove that bissinger was right all those years ago I guess I missed the part of that unhinged rant where he said a bunch of rich dipshits were going to destroy their profitable website mostly out of spite
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eh, his incredibly whiny point to leitch back a decade ago was that bloggers weren't real journalists and were undercutting Real Sportswritin' Men which, gently caress buzz bissinger, but also, just as he was sort of right insofar that the deadspin guys and gals cut into his industry's take, so did those undercutting the deadspinners now that the people responsible are ultimately the rich dicks is the problem, bissinger basically played right into the usual capitalist fallacy
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Tim Thomas posted:not that i want to really think hard on the amount of leather the guy has, but doesn't this sort of prove that bissinger was right all those years ago You think he was right when he said that Deadspin was dedicated to cruelty and journalistic dishonesty? Deadspin has always punched up, while "respected" old school publications like the NY Times and Washington Post (no doubt publications that Buzz Bissinger would point to as the pinnacle of journalism) publish gently caress Buzz Bissinger and his holier-than-thou bullshit.
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nah, gently caress that aspect, purely the plaintive whines regarding undercutting of existing media which, again, he was blaming the wrong people, he should have been blaming capital
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“Punching up/down” is such a dumb dichotomy
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Vertical Lime posted:not deadspin thing God Bless Jon Bois and his terrible perfect ideas.
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ElwoodCuse posted:A strike is for when there is no bargaining agreement between the union and management. Well, in the United States it is. But US unions are sad castrated parodies of real unions
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Tim Thomas posted:nah, gently caress that aspect, purely the plaintive whines regarding undercutting of existing media i don't think you can be like buzz was right that existing media was being undercut when he didn't understand how or why or who was doing it, and when now in 2019 the root causes are different than they were in 2009 or whatever
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:i don't think you can be like buzz was right that existing media was being undercut when he didn't understand how or why or who was doing it, and when now in 2019 the root causes are different than they were in 2009 or whatever eh, you all are right; as penance for my bad take, i shall go look at google images "buzz bissinger pants" for four minutes
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Seeing Dave Portnoy and his tard brigade happy about this makes me want to barf
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trip report: about 3 minutes into that search, you start seeing a lot of jeff goldblum (?) separately... there really isn't another place like deadspin, is there? between this website in the late aughts and deadspin, it really helped color and shape my thinking in teaching me that i was an egregious, raging rear end in a top hat with lovely, misandrist opinions, and offered an alternative not exaggerating to call them literally life changing but in the very best way
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Oh god, Jason Whitlock is celebrating too. gently caress offffffff you sweaty fat gently caress, hurry up and have a heart attack
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seiferguy posted:Jezebel: known for it's hard hitting sports blogging: https://jezebel.com/i-would-have-sex-with-an-entire-major-league-baseball-t-1839501599
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