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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:If corbyn wins hes gonma cancel christmas and replace it with Red Day UK https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9NKHJ64qRR8 Edit: Cat tax 
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Not raising taxes doesn't mean you can't increase tax income, you just need to grow the taxable economy. By giving money to people who will spend it within that economy. after the car crash that was the Economic Advisory Committee back in 2015-2016, McDonnell also seems to become wary of trying to pitch new economics - it must have the OBR's stamp of approval and nothing less will suffice
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Nov 1, 2019 21:05
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Sanitary Naptime posted:Podcasting is Praxis Episode 11 - Swindling Here! is now available for consumption. Please enjoy the 15 minutes or so of silence from me where I received audio but could not be heard by the others. Imagine me saying the funniest lines of the show. I tried to correct "majority" to "majority bority"
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Nov 1, 2019 21:06
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Chuka Umana posted:I mean I feel like they're somewhat right in the sense that this is really the best shot for radical leftists in Labour. There really isn't anyone to blame but Corbyn if Labour loses. Corbyn's been hampered by years of infighting and smear campaigns from centrists within Labour. I don't think we can exactly say he was given a fair shout by a lot of the PLP.
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Nov 1, 2019 21:06
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Chuka Umana posted:I'm asking if you'd still vote Labour if Stephen Kinnock was your MP Would depend on whose leading the labour party at the time. team overhead smash posted:Corbyn's been hampered by years of infighting and smear campaigns from centrists within Labour. I don't think we can exactly say he was given a fair shout by a lot of the PLP. Which is why I have changed my Labour voting stance. Back under Mills it was vote labour because the conservatives and libs are bastards, unify at all costs. Not doing that again when its so clearly one sided.
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Nov 1, 2019 21:08
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mila kunis posted:Should labour pull off a win in this election would Corbyn's agenda be hobbled by blairites? Angepain posted:Please make sure you are taking enough time away from politics over the next few weeks to avoid damage to your own emotional wellbeing/mental health. It's good for you, and even if you don't care about yourself it's good for those around you as well. Whatever happens we're all going to need people who care about stuff, and we're going to need a good chunk of those people to be able to get up in the morning.
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Nov 1, 2019 21:09
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Chuka Umana posted:Not saying that as an attack on Labour, but I have little patience for people who will try to re-litigate this election in the coming years by blaming it on the media or Farage or whatever if Labour loses. 1. It is entirely possible that 4 years of non-stop Chairman Mao style bicycling by every major media outlet in Britain acting in their class interest could/will have an effect on this election wtf are you talking about? 2. As has already been said, if Labour lose, we just continue to fight. If they win, we continue to fight. The Tories don't vanish into dust if you beat them one time in an election. Strap yourself in.
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Nov 1, 2019 21:10
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Borrovan posted:Genuine question, how do people balance this? I've always been an all-or-nothing kind of person and repeatedly cycle through fight hard -> burn out -> recovery periods. It's effective as long as I get phase 3 right, but it's not particularly healthy I'm still bad at it but getting better by trying to be more aware of the signs I'm burning out. I still end up arguing with shitheads who yell "antisemitism" as soon as they have to admit the Lib Dems have blood on their hands, but much less often. I also got a lot more into the cultural side of software development/management about 3 years ago and that has given me a ton of tools for keeping an eye on myself as well as the folks I work with and look out for. Make checking in with yourself at least a few times a day part of your routine. Set reminders if you have to, especially if there's particular times of the day you find yourself doing emotionally exhausting stuff. It's also cool and good to walk away, and remembering this has never made me think "I wish I'd said x" later on. "OK, Boomer" feels wonderful and I'm trying to not use all mine up in one go.
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Nov 1, 2019 21:18
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Labour aren't suddenly going lurch right if Corbyn steps down because it's the very left membership that will elect his replacement, not the PLP.
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Nov 1, 2019 21:18
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MrFlibble posted:Good to see you have the level of reading comprehension I expected you would have why do centrists always post like this
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Nov 1, 2019 21:18
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This thread obsesses too much over the lib dems. They are conversely pathetic laughable but dangerous and could be the doom of the country. It's like something I remember Eco writing about. Look to the bright side and stop staring into shadows. Collateral fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Nov 1, 2019 |
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Nov 1, 2019 21:19
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Venuz Patrol posted:why do centrists always post like this yeah the person who's talking about not supporting Labour if they get a centrist leader is definitely a centrist, sure
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Carborundum posted:1. It is entirely possible that 4 years of non-stop Chairman Mao style bicycling by every major media outlet in Britain acting in their class interest could/will have an effect on this election wtf are you talking about? They do if you elect someone powerful enough :maosay:
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Bundy posted:Labour aren't suddenly going lurch right if Corbyn steps down because it's the very left membership that will elect his replacement, not the PLP.
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Nov 1, 2019 21:21
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Can we hold a referendum on tomato and jam sandwicjes
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Nov 1, 2019 21:24
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Venuz Patrol posted:why do centrists always post like this Chuka Umana's posts always reek of 'the left needs to mollify the moderates' and i'm stating that bringing those moderates in will result in some leftists saying gently caress it - and I am one of them. If that makes me a centrist I don't particularly care. Voting won't solve anything on this hell island anyway.
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Nov 1, 2019 21:25
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Who decides who gets a vote? Can the PLP reform the system to be like the Tory one? the NEC is in charge of stuff like leadership contests and it's basically full of Momentumites rn
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Nov 1, 2019 21:26
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Julio Cruz posted:Momentumites Please use their correct title, Momentum Thugs
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Nov 1, 2019 21:31
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Personally if Corbyn doesn't make gains I'm gonna be blaming the fact that a December election is a massive loving disadvantage to us. It will be bad for turnout (i.e., bad for us), and a lot of the fair-weather canvassers won't bother either. As well as the obvious disenfranchisement.
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Nov 1, 2019 21:31
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A song for Joris by a madman I know https://kumbelch.bandcamp.com/track/a-song-for-boris
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Nov 1, 2019 21:32
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worth reflecting whether you would consider Starmer or Thornberry or Rayner unacceptably too liberal; they're all positioning themselves in case Corbyn gets crushed at the polls in December and does the honourable thing none of these people have Corbyn's surviving-veteran-of-battles--when-Thatcher-was-PM stripes. Also, unlike political veterans who are still around four decades later, they have more viable rivals and more enemies made in relevant political questions rather than old, buried ones.
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Nov 1, 2019 21:37
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Borrovan posted:Personally if Corbyn doesn't make gains I'm gonna be blaming the fact that a December election is a massive loving disadvantage to us. It will be bad for turnout (i.e., bad for us), and a lot of the fair-weather canvassers won't bother either. As well as the obvious disenfranchisement. It'll be far worse for elderly Tory voters, assuming they don't all apply for postal votes
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Angepain posted:Ok here's my synthesis of mine and Tigey's posts. (also lol at that kelly edit i made ages ago coming back to haunt me and still being relevant after all these years. though i guess the party being referred to in the leftmost cloud has changed somewhat.) Those in the know let me know all if there's anything needs added/taken away, i'm not a mental health professional so most of this advice is second hand: Thanks for this, have shared with our local campaign team.
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Please use their correct title, Momentum Thugs If you're going to correct people you'd do well to be correct yourself. It's Jeremy Corbyn's Far Left Momentum Thugs.
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Nov 1, 2019 21:40
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Igotadigbick posted:A song for Joris by a madman I know I had a look around this account and mogg's bonnet is a masterpiece.
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Nov 1, 2019 21:42
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Azza Bamboo posted:I had a look around this account and mogg's bonnet is a masterpiece. Thats a good one! He is an astoundingly talented dude, I've had I ain't no bitch stuck in my head for days now
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Nov 1, 2019 21:49
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Rarity posted:Be the change you want to see in the world Be the Change you want to see in the UK. 
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MrFlibble posted:Would depend on whose leading the labour party at the time. Have you thought of voting for the MP that best represents your views, within your constituency, rather than pretending it’s a presidential election?
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Nov 1, 2019 21:53
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Pesky Splinter posted:Oh no. What a terrible shame that would be. 
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Nov 1, 2019 22:02
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ronya posted:McDonnell is whipping a very similar pledge to not raise taxes (except on corporation rates and the top 5% income bracket). If this doesn't raise enough revenues, it will run into a problem... once in government, simply not reversing Tory cuts is no longer a, I think the term of art is magical money tree? It was 100% playing to the public on the stereotype of the time that single mums are sluts who get knocked up for free council houses and need to be taught a lesson, right wing ban this sick filth populism, which as much as he liked to play the technocrat he was always up for a bit of.
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Nov 1, 2019 22:03
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Julio Cruz posted:the NEC is in charge of stuff like leadership contests
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:Have you thought of voting for the MP that best represents your views, within your constituency, rather than pretending it’s a presidential election? Its a democracy, I get to vote however I feel for whatever reason I like. The loving moon told me that its Corbyn or leftier and who am I to object to a celestial body?
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Nov 1, 2019 22:05
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Collateral posted:This thread obsesses too much over the lib dems. They are conversely pathetic laughable but dangerous and could be the doom of the country. It's like something I remember Eco writing about. Until they've been crushed down to sub 10% in the polls they're a menace on key seats and will attract a lot of low information Remainers. ronya posted:after the car crash that was the Economic Advisory Committee back in 2015-2016, McDonnell also seems to become wary of trying to pitch new economics - it must have the OBR's stamp of approval and nothing less will suffice Yeah that sucked that it fell apart but Labour's economic plan is new for the UK at least, it's just there's really limits that state power can do to transform an economic base without super enthusiasm and involvement from the base.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:source: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/may-at-10-by-anthony-seldon-grumpy-theresa-was-terrible-campaigner-say-ex-aides-rkkch2mgj It's going to be the Dementia Tax again, because that's loving catnip to dry Tories.
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Collateral posted:This thread obsesses too much over the lib dems. They are conversely pathetic laughable but dangerous and could be the doom of the country. It's like something I remember Eco writing about. Their actual ideas are pathetically laughable. Their popularity amongst brain spidered centrist dads makes them potentially the doom of this country and they vote to give plastic bags votes as we no deal brexit.
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ronya posted:worth reflecting whether you would consider Starmer or Thornberry or Rayner unacceptably too liberal; they're all positioning themselves in case Corbyn gets crushed at the polls in December and does the honourable thing Yes, Corbyn killed and ate his rivals long ago. This was before he switched to vegetarianism, which gave him his other superpower: 
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Nov 1, 2019 22:17
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The first twenty seconds of this advert are very on-the-nose... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ9z8PpYccU
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Nov 1, 2019 22:18
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Lefty brother (but not party member) who said a couple of months ago that he was going to vote Lib Dem purely because brexit was the single most important issue and Lib Dem's only party offering revoke has just started sharing Labour Party posts on Facebook. Hopefully he'll be voting Labour after all. Daredn't ask in case he's not.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:The first twenty seconds of this advert are very on-the-nose... Obligatory: Robert Webb is a terf twat
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