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Gonzo McFee posted:The Theresa May inspired boss, in her skin tight leopard skin cat suit... That would definitely make me ashamed of my words and deeds. Just generally.
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Ratjaculation posted:unoriginal, fallouts existed for decades Nah Fallout had guns and intrigue. Everything I've seen about Death Stranding makes it look like a really drawn out walking simulator across barren landscapes where there's a shared feeling of dread and that you're just wasting your time. The real British experience.
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Ms Adequate posted:Had another chat with my parents about the upcoming election. They're amused by the Tory shitfest that is the start of their campaign and they're angry about the Lib Dem outright lies, but I can't get them enthused about Jezza. Though they'll still vote for Labour here, but they both think Corbs has a virulent hatred of the EU and is a secret, ardent Leaver, and my step-dad outright doesn't believe he'll give us a second referendum. OwlFancier posted:I guess ask why they have them, fundamentally the thing that inocculates me against a lot of the poo poo is basic marxism that leads me to disbelieve basically everything that comes out of a paper or a tv screen. 
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Communist Thoughts posted:Also Lindsay Hoyle is not nearly as female as I expected Fleetwood Mac did a lot to dispel nominal gender norms back in the day. Show people a picture - one of these people is called Lindsey, the other is called Stevie. You can go your own way.
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Nov 4, 2019 18:40
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If I was gonna pitch the labour brexit position to someone it'd be basically on the same terms as it works for me. I don't really care one way or another about brexit, what I don't want is the tories killing a shitload of people by forgetting to secure insulin imports or whatever, they're morons and can't be trusted to do anything like that. Labour are much less likely to produce a lovely deal and if they do, you get a chance to vote it down. Seems like by far the most sensible way to handle it, plus they're actually bothering with all these other policies that will address the actual problems in the country.
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OwlFancier posted:I guess ask why they have them, fundamentally the thing that inocculates me against a lot of the poo poo is basic marxism that leads me to disbelieve basically everything that comes out of a paper or a tv screen. Yeah but they think that's where they are currently, sensibly disbeliving and sceptical, especially of politicians. e; They have drunk somewhat of the fubpee well and believe Brexit is the only issue that matters atm, and leaving will make doing anything else impossible so it doesn't matter whether it's Tories or Labour who actually do it because we'd be equally hosed. Ms Adequate fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Nov 4, 2019 |
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Nov 4, 2019 18:42
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When the election was called, polls were indicating Tory majority of around 70. This poll indicates Tory majority of 40 before adjusting for Scotland's own voting split, and based on the last Scotland only poll, that's down to 26. Could be as low as 18 if the Lib Dem vote suffers in Scotland since the last poll too. We're well on our way, and the actual election period doesn't start till Wednesday!
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Ms Adequate posted:Yeah but they think that's where they are currently, sensibly disbeliving and sceptical, especially of politicians. Sure, but I think the trick is getting people to think a layer back from that. That politics doesn't start and stop at people who advertise themselves as politicians. I really think LTV is the best loving thing you can teach anyone because it's such an easy and powerful gateway to viewing the rest of the world as political. If I was a labour government I'd put LTV in the school curriculum and on the BBC.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Nah Fallout had guns and intrigue. Everything I've seen about Death Stranding makes it look like a really drawn out walking simulator across barren landscapes where there's a shared feeling of dread and that you're just wasting your time. The real British experience. i kinda want to play it, because i like slow paced games. But if its how you describe it I also play games to escape reality.
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Nov 4, 2019 18:47
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OwlFancier posted:Sure, but I think the trick is getting people to think a layer back from that. That politics doesn't start and stop at people who advertise themselves as politicians. which ltv though the naive versions are idiotic any coherent versions are colossally complex - single system, dual system, what? in the uk analytical marxism tends to hold sway and it is prone to jettisoning LTV and TRPF entirely
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Nov 4, 2019 18:49
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Speakers election ROUND 2: 575 Ballots cast (therefore 288 needed) Lindsay Hoyle: 244 Eleanor Lang: 122 Chris Bryant: 120 Harriett Harman: 59 Rosie Winterton: 30 Process goes to ROUND 3 There is an opportunity for candidates to withdraw should they wish. Rosie Winterton will be eliminated regardless.
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Nov 4, 2019 18:51
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The idea that your boss decides what you earn, literally cannot pay you what your labour is worth, and all of this happens just because they have money (that they almost certainly didn't earn to begin with) is not remotely idiotic, and is in fact 100% true.
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Nov 4, 2019 18:51
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it'd be worth it to see children try to explain to their parents that actually being a nurse or teacher isn't technically productive labour, and furthermore...
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Nov 4, 2019 18:52
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Nov 4, 2019 18:55
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mehall posted:I am going to be on Question Time this week. As someone who went to QT earlier this year and submitted a similar sort of question... don't bother. They won't ask a question phrased like that. Try "Why are Labour so scared of tactical voting?" instead, and you're gold. Then "accidentally" say Lib Dems if they ask you to explain why the question isn't what they expected, you can elaborate as they'll be confused why you're not bashing Labour like everyone else will be.
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Nov 4, 2019 18:55
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ronya posted:the naive versions are idiotic No poo poo, really? The neoliberal doesn't like the theory that says workers contribute more than they earn, whom among us could have guessed? Not exactly a stunner it's not a key part of PPE courses. HJB posted:Fleetwood Mac did a lot to dispel nominal gender norms back in the day. Show people a picture - one of these people is called Lindsey, the other is called Stevie. You can go your own way. Just want you to know how much I hate you far reminding me that Fleetwood Mac existed and we're dogshit. You swine.
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Nov 4, 2019 18:57
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ronya posted:which ltv though hnnm the best way to convince politically unengaged people of the observable fact that rich people are exploiting them is to break out the blackboard and chalk and start drawing weird functions and equations all over the place, you're right 
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Nov 4, 2019 19:00
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Like who cares if it doesn't perfectly map to all jobs, your boss dictates everything about your work and necessarily screws you out of the value of what you produce, which they can do because they're your boss and have more money than you. This breeds proper animosity between people and their bosses, and people and capitalist society.
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Nov 4, 2019 19:00
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forkboy84 posted:Just want you to know how much I hate you far reminding me that Fleetwood Mac existed and we're dogshit. You swine. I half-expected you to post a response like this, I just didn't think it would be so soon. It's reassuring that you hate them, put it that way.
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Nov 4, 2019 19:02
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Ms Adequate posted:They have drunk somewhat of the fubpee well and believe Brexit is the only issue that matters atm, and leaving will make doing anything else impossible so it doesn't matter whether it's Tories or Labour who actually do it because we'd be equally hosed. OwlFancier posted:If I was a labour government I'd put LTV in the school curriculum and on the BBC.
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Nov 4, 2019 19:03
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OwlFancier posted:The idea that your boss decides what you earn, literally cannot pay you what your labour is worth, and all of this happens just because they have money is not remotely idiotic, and is in fact 100% true. the last time someone posted the twitter idiot version of not grasping the concept of cost of capital, you remarked it was baby's first LTV now I am wondering whether you actually think this is the LTV which is ... uh... disappointing, I guess
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Looking at Lindsay Hoyle's voting record, he seems to be a bit of a tool. Am I missing some exonerating circumstance here?
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forkboy84 posted:Just want you to know how much I hate you far reminding me that Fleetwood Mac existed and we're dogshit. You swine. 
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ronya posted:the last time someone posted the twitter idiot version of not grasping the concept of cost of capital, you remarked it was baby's first LTV It's the important part of LTV and given that whatever your understanding is produced... you... I'm unconvinced of its utility.
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Should clarify, they were fine until Peter Green left, then they turned into soft rock tedium
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Nov 4, 2019 19:09
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Lindsey's the MP who took a photograph of themselves not watching the Rugby in their massive empty living room where the Tea was out of reach.
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forkboy84 posted:Should clarify, they were fine until Peter Green left, then they turned into soft rock tedium Although that's the common opinion from dads who read Melody Maker, it's actually the opposite way around. If I never hear Albatross again in my life that's fine
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OwlFancier posted:It's the important part of LTV and given that whatever your understanding is produced... you... I'm unconvinced of its utility. it's not - in a Marxist context, capital is still an input into the means of production, capital goods are produced, and capital goods are paid for. The organic composition of capital under communism is not zero. It doesn't make any sense in a Marxist framework The absolutely minimal version of the LTV can hinge on the concept of capital as dead labour and to argue that the dead labour is stolen in some long original-sin misappropriation, but that still acknowledges that constant capital comes from somewhere
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forkboy84 posted:Just want you to know how much I hate you far reminding me that Fleetwood Mac existed and we're dogshit. You swine. Sorry, hold up, cancel all other discussions. What
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Nov 4, 2019 19:17
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It's not just any dogshit, it's M&S dogshit.
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Nov 4, 2019 19:18
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Looking forward to Jo Swinson suing Vince Cable for saying she doesn't have a realistic chance of being the next PM.
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Nov 4, 2019 19:21
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Who is Lindsay Hoyle? Why is he the runaway favourite to become speaker?
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Extremely normal rugby watcher.
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