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i'd rather have been raised by a homeless tent city commune under capitalism than by my parents & it would be dope to have that choice
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Shame Boy posted:Well one of them was hosed up by religion rather than capitalism, though I admit they're not exactly separable concepts. what do you think abortively radicalized him and exacerbated his mental illness
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Squalid posted:nah. the radical critics of the family were just wrong. they were founded on false premises. Capitalism did not create the nuclear family, and this is trivially obvious when you actually look at history and compare cultures. When you base policy on false premises, you can only ever arrive at good outcomes by accident. As it is you sound like a 19th century doctor raving about foul vapors in the middle of a Yellow Fever epidemic. no, this is still a pretty ignorant take
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I don't know wtf is going on anymore but I have a decent relationship with my parents and I like being married to my wife, just tell me if i need to report to the gulag or if it's cool.
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my parents were not good parents but i don't think that was out of any conscious sense of malice, it was more that we were always broke and both had to work long hours so yeah its capitalism
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Nov 4, 2019 20:16
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everyone who has posted itt in the last 24 hours go to the gulag
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Nov 4, 2019 20:21
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It's "scrollable content".
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Marketing is a lot like economics where it should be very telling that the entire sector has gone on for decades with fundamentally incorrect assumptions about pretty much everything and no one has noticed. (the people saying this are not the people who have actually read the studies about when the nebulous concept of "thinking about the product" actually works - because, yes, it does if you're staring at a wall of identical toothpaste or gammon-rear end presidential candidates, but they're not thinking that.)
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https://twitter.com/AP_Oddities/status/1191085023539159040
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Boomer: If you want to succeed, embrace capitalism Student: Okay Boomer: wait, no.
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An "enterprising" student. lol Doobie did this exact same thing.
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Nov 4, 2019 22:22
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I had a routine when I was working in Des Moines of working an overnight shift, getting off in the morning, working out and then drinking two egg nog chugs and eating a box of a dozen KK donuts. Anabolic as hell.
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I love the copy+paste response from Krispy Kreme and the people actually taking it at face value that they're going to look into it at all https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-11-04/millennials-should-be-happy-they-are-stuck-renting
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Len posted:https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-11-04/millennials-should-be-happy-they-are-stuck-renting it sure is great that I’m constantly at the mercy of lovely landlords, that’s definitely something I love gently caress off
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Nov 4, 2019 23:30
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Len posted:https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-11-04/millennials-should-be-happy-they-are-stuck-renting lol they literally cite a study from a dude named shiller just lol
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Speaking of renting. I'm filling out an application for a new apartment and their wording here is pretty choice:quote:Do you have any criminal charges pending, awaiting disposition or looming in any way? I dunno, something about using looming in any way just makes me laugh
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he better keep doing this but with a fast car and a fun trucking song
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Len posted:https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-11-04/millennials-should-be-happy-they-are-stuck-renting Wait, hold on, am I supposed to fell inadequate because I don't own my home, or should I be glad for landlords because renting is good? What dumb loving take am I supposed to believe anymore? Being a millennial is incredibly difficult. Len posted:Speaking of renting. I'm filling out an application for a new apartment and their wording here is pretty choice: "Have you committed a crime that you haven't been charged for yet" is an incredibly weird question.
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V. Illych L. posted:i agree that adopting a position because other people dislike it is bad. however, that us not what's going on in this case: what's going on is that the conservatives have accurately seen a consequence of the policy, and this is congruent with a certain policy platform (i.e. that of socialist policy aiming towards a dissolution of the family unit as foundational to society). again, false the conservatives have not accurately seen any consequence. they have done a lot of cocaine and ranted bigoted conspiratorial gibberish about a group of people they hate this does not actually relate to any alleged socialist plot to destroy the family, an idea that was always fringe, and in the present day only exists in your head there is no material basis for your theory and i encourage you to take squalid's advice and read a book for once in your life, instead of just making poo poo up randomly and then acting surprised when people tell you it's stupid and wrong
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SpacePig posted:Wait, hold on, am I supposed to fell inadequate because I don't own my home, or should I be glad for landlords because renting is good? What dumb loving take am I supposed to believe anymore? Being a millennial is incredibly difficult. It's owned by the same rental company as where I am now and presumably it also has a pro-snitching policy where if you report a neighbor for drugs you get $500
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Len posted:Speaking of renting. I'm filling out an application for a new apartment and their wording here is pretty choice: just lol if your crimes don't manifest as a tall apparition trailing you closely at all times, breathing ominously despite having no discernable face
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Big Mad Drongo posted:just lol if your crimes don't manifest as a tall apparition trailing you closely at all times, breathing ominously despite having no discernable face I don't live in Silent Hill. 
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Warmachine posted:I don't live in Silent Hill. This is the problem with Millennials. You bitch about unaffordable homes, and when a town with cheap property comes up you whine and moan about a little psychosexual retribution Man up, snowflakes
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living in silent hill means you don't need to pay extra to get therapy, it will come to you no matter what
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T-man posted:living in silent hill means you don't need to pay extra to get therapy, it will come to you That doesn't sound very American 
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T-man posted:living in silent hill means you don't need to pay extra to get therapy, it will come to you silent hill offers the kind of housing that becomes your own mom, the strangest of landlords
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silent hill seems like this nice peaceful place and then it turns into a twisted postindustrial hellscape so basically america
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T-man posted:living in silent hill means you don't need to pay extra to get therapy, it will come to you Pyramidhead the rapy?
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Squalid posted:nah. the radical critics of the family were just wrong. they were founded on false premises. Capitalism did not create the nuclear family, and this is trivially obvious when you actually look at history and compare cultures. When you base policy on false premises, you can only ever arrive at good outcomes by accident. As it is you sound like a 19th century doctor raving about foul vapors in the middle of a Yellow Fever epidemic. Sure the dominant economic policy of the world had nothing to do with the orginization of family groups. Mhm. Yes. Unless we're still debating what family means there is no argument that capitalism did not create the nuclear family either by intention or out of necessity. Sedisp has issued a correction as of 07:12 on Nov 5, 2019 |
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after loving decades of telling everyone they had to buy homes or else they were throwing away money, and getting generations tied up in this only to finally admit they were full of poo poo. gently caress right off you pricks
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Sedisp posted:Sure the dominant economic policy of the world had nothing to do with the orginization of family groups. of course it effects the organization of the family. It's just not the only thing. the problem with your argument that capitalism create the nuclear family, is you have also have to explain why societies that are demonstrably not capitalist are also characterized by nuclear families. You need to be able to explain how the Basseri, an Iranian pastoral people, also came to have nuclear families. These peoples are a serious problem for your theory because they show capitalism is not necessary for the production of this social system, and that means it is not necessarily responsible for it in our society either.
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Squalid posted:of course it effects the organization of the family. It's just not the only thing. you're asking people to be able to back up the claims that they choose to make. reaching that low bar is not a very common ambition
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Squalid posted:of course it effects the organization of the family. It's just not the only thing. I mean Nuclear Family if that helps. As in the US idea that a normal family is one dad one mom and a dependent or two. Not the sociological concept of married household as a family unit. Edit: I guess technically capitalism merely co opted the latter to create the former but considering this is the capitalism thread I'm going to assume most people get that. Sedisp has issued a correction as of 09:32 on Nov 5, 2019 |
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There is literally nothing America didn't invent. Humanity basically didn't even exist 200 years ago. Humanity was a shapeless blob, formed and shaped by the hand of America
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the problem with american culture is we've decided that a bunch of government policies designed to funnel money to specific rich people is actually a fundamental instinct of human psychology and we can never fight it. like in 10 years it's just going to be gospel that humans were never made to settle down, you know? so stop dreaming of having a home and set family and get back on tinder, the local restuarant industry could use a boost cuz Daddy Land Baron needs some sugar
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Zzulu posted:There is literally nothing America didn't invent. Humanity basically didn't even exist 200 years ago. Humanity was a shapeless blob, formed and shaped by the hand of America America is a shapeless blob
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Larry Parrish posted:the problem with american culture is we've decided that a bunch of government policies designed to funnel money to specific rich people is actually a fundamental instinct of human psychology and we can never fight it. like in 10 years it's just going to be gospel that humans were never made to settle down, you know? so stop dreaming of having a home and set family and get back on tinder, the local restuarant industry could use a boost cuz Daddy Land Baron needs some sugar Yeah. It's unfortunate that living at home is so vilified in the states. In other countries, offspring still live at home into their 30s or even 40 until they get married and get their own place. But that's potential renter income left at the table, and we can't have that
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I'm convinced any UBI program tried in this country will instantly fail because it will just be sucked up by landlords.
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Same, but with universal healthcare: The extra money people have because healthcare is cheaper means landlords will increase rent. Better not attempt it.
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