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I think the whole "prison on Mars" interpretation seems stronger when you consider Veidts reaction to the failure of the latest version of his suit. The guy goes nuts and stomps a frozen man into pieces. You couldn't do that unless the dude was pretty much frozen solid I wouldn't think.
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Giggle Goose posted:I think the whole "prison on Mars" interpretation seems stronger when you consider Veidts reaction to the failure of the latest version of his suit. The guy goes nuts and stomps a frozen man into pieces. You couldn't do that unless the dude was pretty much frozen solid I wouldn't think. "poo poo AND poo poo AND gently caress AND poo poo! MOTHERFUCKING SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!"
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Nov 5, 2019 03:32
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The fact that he needed an oxygen tank also suggests Mars, and not, e.g., Antarctica.
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Nov 5, 2019 03:57
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So what if Rorschach is the game warden?
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Nov 5, 2019 04:03
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Is the music from the ost anywhere online?
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Nov 5, 2019 04:08
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That guy who tweets in ALL CAPS is definitely a Watchmen expert since there definitely is not any part of the book where Laurie’s mom has complex feelings for a man who is very bad for her whom she has known for a really long time and had a very complicated abusive relationship with. Also one of the themes in the book is definitely not Sally Jupiter trying to turn Laurie into another version of her but Laurie rebels and then oops does it anyway. Symmetry and repetition- NOT IN MY WATCHMEN BUSTER.
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Nov 5, 2019 04:09
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Dr. Manhattan: I'm done with humanity, so loving done. Never wanna see you bitches again. Dr. Manhattan: Okay, except I'm gonna imprison this one guy for some reason.
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Nov 5, 2019 04:11
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My old dear just started watching it and she's getting lovely at my brother for not explaining the show in detail and he hasn't read any of the comics, he hasn't even watched any of the episodes and shes 3 down.
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Nov 5, 2019 04:16
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Rocksicles posted:My old dear just started watching it and she's getting lovely at my brother for not explaining the show in detail and he hasn't read any of the comics, he hasn't even watched any of the episodes and shes 3 down. Cool
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Nov 5, 2019 04:21
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KoRMaK posted:Cool Extrapolate that across the world, and there are many frustrated viewers and many frustrated nerds. I don't mind holding your hand, it's soft.
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Nov 5, 2019 04:24
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I think the show does a pretty ok job of not relying on preexisting knowledge of the book. There’s just weird poo poo that you can expect to have explained later, but you know that Laurie used to be a hero, hates Veidt, has a husband/boyfriend who’s in prison, and used to date/be married to Dr Manhattan, who’s some kind of blue naked supergod who lives on Mars. Stuff like the police having an owl ship wouldn’t make sense immediately, but it’s obviously dumb superhero poo poo not out of place among costumes.
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Nov 5, 2019 04:26
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What's your point though rocksies? That sounds like a "them" problem but i can't really tell who them is or if there is even an issue. Why are people getting mad at your brother for not explaining a show he hasn't watched
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KoRMaK posted:What's your point though rocksies? That sounds like a "them" problem but i can't really tell who them is or if there is even an issue. Why are people getting mad at your brother for not explaining a show he hasn't watched I thought it was funny, that my old mother is upto to date with the show, and shes angry at my brother because she doesn't understand it. She expects him to sperg out his wikipedia knowledge of things because he's a nerd. Made me think of this thread Watchmansplaining everything
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Nov 5, 2019 04:33
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Necrothatcher posted:I'm reading the comic now and I like that Laurie's love of Devo is established canon. And Mongoloid seriously rocks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b-nFSUXcuM Thranguy posted:If anyone is that it's Halo Jones. Top Ten has some pretty good female characters, Toybox for example. When is someone going to adapt that?
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Nov 5, 2019 04:54
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Sorry, can’t find one and figure this may be the best place to ask: is there a His Dark Materials thread anywhere?
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Klungar posted:Sorry, can’t find one and figure this may be the best place to ask: is there a His Dark Materials thread anywhere? No, just couch chat getting sensitive about it.
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Timby posted:I read a theory that Veidt is actually Doctor Manhattan. I'll see if I can find it, there was some pretty interesting thinking in it. Too many idiosyncrasies when he's by himself. I could buy Manhattan putting on an act for his clones for some reason but method acting? I would feel offended if that ended up being the case.
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Nov 5, 2019 05:39
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:I thought this episode was garbage personally This is a good opinion.
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Nov 5, 2019 06:33
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holy gently caress i just saw this episode. holy fuckin poo poo. yes, more more more.
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There were segments with no music or anything that seemed awkward as hell from hbgo.com at least. The scenes with Laurie and Senator McHuckleberry seemed like the most obvious. shoutout to the Manhattan dildo / teledildonics possibly? At first I thought she had dementia when she couldn't finish the joke. I was about to get sad. Thankfully it was just strategic editing. Not going to lie, from the previews before the show even started, I thought we were going to see Night Owl get murdered. But it's cool bc it was just some chump in a flying squirrel outfit or w/e. lol @ that dickhead from those stupid NCIS shows being the Walter Skinner of the Watchmen universe. I like Laurie. She's a loving rear end in a top hat and doesn't give a gently caress, just like the comics. Very different angle though considering she despises the masks.
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I apologize if someone has said this before. If I receive probation or punishment, I cannot help that I've channeled the thread's consciousness... ENOUGH OF THE FAKE MANHATTAN DICKS. GIVE US THE REAL DR. MANHATTAN COCK AND DELIVER US FROM PAINTED CAUCASIAN CLONE WEEN. VEIDT, HEAR OUR PRAYER. response: WATCH MEN
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I disagree with the arguments here that Veidt is trapped on Mars, for a pretty simple reason. The skull and bones flag Veidt gallops by is likely from the Black Freighter film set - that island in an unknown location. Remember, that's where Veidt had Max Shea and others create the "alien" before Veidt killed them all. It seems like a reasonable place to continue his experiments. I'm not sure why he's not chilling out in his Antarctic summer getaway instead. I'm not quite sure what Veidt is up to, but it likely involves meeting Dr. Manhattan on Mars with these clones he's made. Apparently he wants them to be capable of living naturally on Mars.
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Rocksicles posted:I wish i'd come up with that, i'd be dining out on free beer and nachos for years. They were fighting a Yee Hawd.
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The North Tower posted:They were fighting a Yee Hawd. never not funny. e: Hezbubba is another great one, and LynyrdSkynfidels, walmartyr I'm going back through old twitter posts, the internet really turned out for this one. Rocksicles fucked around with this message at 08:58 on Nov 5, 2019 |
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I’m not sure I buy Mars as where Veidt is- he could just as easily be somewhere remote. I’m definitely in the camp that he’s imprisoned himself as a game to try and work out a ploy to do... something. That seems like the most reasonable thing for a horribly insane guy to do. Mars, Antarctica, or the Earth’s upper atmosphere could probably make a popsicle of a man. The business of the repeating image of the manor, I dunno, maybe something about him being a psychic and making a psychic echo that Sister Night’s (psychic) kid is picking up on?
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Envisioned posted:On more of a fun note, Tim Blake Nelson is also from Tulsa. Met him before, he's super nice and super smart, love seeing him in more of a featured role.
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twistedmentat posted:And Mongoloid seriously rocks I don't know much about Devo, but hearing Mongoloid in Watchmen made me finally put the pieces together on this old Layo and Bushwacka track I love: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaJXmX6zr2U
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Someone elsewhere pointed out that they saw a conspicuously blue dot in the sky during the Veidt scenes. Anyone catch that?
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Nov 5, 2019 11:54
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feedmyleg posted:Someone elsewhere pointed out that they saw a conspicuously blue dot in the sky during the Veidt scenes. Anyone catch that? Maybe it was the reflection off that stocking stuffer
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feedmyleg posted:Someone elsewhere pointed out that they saw a conspicuously blue dot in the sky during the Veidt scenes. Anyone catch that? I really hope Manhattan's not involved in whatever's going on with Veidt. I thought his attitude towards him was perfectly summarised by: "I've walked across the sun. I've seen events so tiny and so fast they hardly can be said to have occurred at all, but you...You are a man. And this world's smartest man means no more to me than its smartest termite."
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On that token, I am also weirded out that Dr. Manhattan apparently just went back to Mars, when he outright said he was leaving the galaxy in the comic. Makes me think it's all just a fabrication.
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Fully agreed. I just can't figure out a set of events that would lead to that. I still far prefer Veidt attempting to build his body after an intrinsic field blast. In another discussion I saw virtual reality prison which is boring. I'd also be into Dr. Manhattan on Mars being a fake planted by the government to give people hope—after all, why stick so near Earth if you don't give a hoot for mankind? So the maybe... Dan and Veidt are on Mars in crazy space prison but Manhattan hosed off to another galaxy immediately? I mean, that doesn't make sense either but it'd be neat.
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Nov 5, 2019 12:09
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he’s in a hosed up crystal prison
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LookingGodIntheEye posted:I disagree with the arguments here that Veidt is trapped on Mars, for a pretty simple reason. look i'm the guy that first said they're clones and that they were of Osterman and his squeeze and that Veidt is trying to create a new Dr. Manhattan that he can control. but it might be something way simpler and dumber like he's experimenting to see what death is going to be like using clones
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Keep in mind, if Dr. Manhattan really is involved they very well may not be clones. He said he was going to go create some life, so these weirdos could be his attempts at creating human beings but without those pesky "emotions" that Manhattan doesn't fully understand. A new set of Adams and Eves that for some reason Manhattan has Veidt babysitting.
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Judd is Dan Dreiberg, that's why he had the owl ship, and that's why Laurie is on the case. Dr. Manhattan on Mars is a hoax by the Russians. In actuality he went to another galaxy in order to create the loving New 52 universe or whatever the gently caress Hakkesshu fucked around with this message at 12:55 on Nov 5, 2019 |
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Nov 5, 2019 12:44
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They said in this episode that Dan was in prison. Local police probably use his goggle and ship designs because they were confiscated or he made a deal when he was convicted.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:They said in this episode that Dan was in prison. Local police probably use his goggle and ship designs because they were confiscated or he made a deal when he was convicted. This is the only reason I think the VR prison thing might have some veracity. If Dan and Veidt are both in prison (for knowing too much about Veidt's plot and not becoming a government agent like Laurie) then we could be seeing Veidt push against the walls of his virtual prison. Even if it's not the most interesting explanation, it might tie those two pieces together. And yeah, I think that with the Russians being brought up casually as making their own intrinsic field generator, them making a Manhattan hoax on Mars makes sense. Also makes the Manhattan phonebooths sadder.
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Hakkesshu posted:Judd is Dan Dreiberg, that's why he had the owl ship, and that's why Laurie is on the case. He might be a oval office, but he's not an rear end in a top hat. also that's not how multiverses work.
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LookingGodIntheEye posted:I disagree with the arguments here that Veidt is trapped on Mars, for a pretty simple reason. look i'm the guy that first said they're clones and that they were of Osterman and his squeeze and that Veidt is trying to create a new Dr. Manhattan that he can control. but it might be something way simpler and dumber like he's experimenting to see what death is going to be like using clones
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