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Passenger 57 and Drop Zone make for a hell of a double feature. Add in Blade and Demolition Man, Snipes was really up next, loving feds did him dirty. E: on an unrelated note, the thread titles been bugging me, mostly because it’s in reference to a tv show, not a movie.
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I didn't change it. But I don't like it either, and would prefer something else.
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Nov 5, 2019 18:08
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I didn't change it. But I don't like it either, and would prefer something else. Okay. Someone say something funny and I’ll change it to that.
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Nov 5, 2019 18:30
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I assume Some Motherfuckers are Always Trying To Ice Skate Uphill is too long
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Nov 5, 2019 18:36
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Just call it the Scott Adkins Appreciation Station until something better comes along. Or the Mark Dacascos Appreciation Station, whatever.
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Nov 5, 2019 18:40
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I'm trying to think of something based on John Wick paying with Reddit Gold, but I've got nuthin' edit: suggestion above v. good Megaman's Jockstrap fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Nov 5, 2019 |
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Nov 5, 2019 18:40
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The Continental's Continental Breakfast is tainted with lead
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Hobbs and Shaw was ok but could've been a lot better. I know it sounds dumb to complain about the story in a movie where The Rock pulls helicopters out of the sky with a chain but it just didn't work for me. Elba was very good as always, but I think the ridiculous antics of The Rock and Statham would've been better paired with a slightly more grounded story. The action was good but not good enough for me to just ignore everything else around it. It also started pretty strong aesthetically but as it went on looked more and more like rear end with unconvincing CG backdrops.
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Franchescanado posted:I've been watching through the films featured on The Action Boyz podcast (which is hilarious, by the way). I've heard two stories about that movie - one is that Seagal was always supposed to get Janet Leigh'd and the other is that he was such an rear end in a top hat to work with that they wrote him out. Edit: Woops that was Executive Decision. Too many terrorists on a plane movies in the 90s.
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weekly font posted:I've heard two stories about that movie - one is that Seagal was always supposed to get Janet Leigh'd and the other is that he was such an rear end in a top hat to work with that they wrote him out. I think the truth was in the middle on that one. He was always written to die there but he had a dispute over the specific manner of the death(it was supposed to be more gruesome), so he refused to shoot until they changed it. So I think it was a case of Seagal not wanting to be there in the first place, and just not having any choice in the matter because he was under contract. So he made life difficult for people on set because he's a petulant child but the idea of him exiting the movie early was always in place.
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Apparently it was always the idea that he died early on. http://www.manlymovie.net/2016/08/about-seagals-early-death-in-executive-decision.html That site also has a link to an early draft of the screenplay: https://indiegroundfilms.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/executive-decision-apr-91.pdf quote:UPDATED: Well, fair is fair and we’re going to give Seagal his credit here. As much as the theory below might make sense, it is not true. As Krom sends the following in, Seagal’s role was always written as a small part;
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I have this memory of Seagal always being filmed from the front, to hide the fact that he wouldn't cut his ponytail. Did I just dream that?
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I love when movies like Executive Decision tried to make Seagal into like a hardass by-the-book special ops dude because he really really could not handle guns in anything close to a convincing way. Or he just didn't give enough of a poo poo to try. Check out the opening credits of Executive Decision and watch him move around in the least convincing way of anybody else in the scene, and he's supposed to be like this badass team leader. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YDzNoBUzEI He worked much better as like a quirky renegade cop because his weird tendencies(watch the above scene and observe his weird choppy little steps as he takes down the two guys with the knife) fit more naturally into those kind of characters.
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For years there was a possibly apocryphal story/urban legend that Steven Seagal was the product of a bet by a talent agent that he could make even the blandest, flattest person into a movie star. It’s probably not true but it 100% seems like it could be.
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The Behind the Bastards podcast did a great 2-part episode on Seagal.
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Blast Fantasto posted:For years there was a possibly apocryphal story/urban legend that Steven Seagal was the product of a bet by a talent agent that he could make even the blandest, flattest person into a movie star. Action Boyz has the history that he was the martial arts instructor for a producer who was so enamored with him that he was convinced he was star material. Halloween Jack posted:The Behind the Bastards podcast did a great 2-part episode on Seagal. I keep putting this off. Might start it today!
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It lowered my already very low opinion of Seagal. The thing is, Seagal was really hot for a while, and made some good movies. It all went to poo poo very quickly when he got too much creative control over his own films.
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It’s just wild that someone could have a such limited, precarious type of fame (martial arts action star) and not realize that being a cruel rear end in a top hat is likely to shorten that already short window. It just speaks to what type of person he is, I guess. The type of person who gets banned from SNL by being rude to cast members.
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Anyone with an interest in the rise and fall of Seagal might pick up the Kindle edition of Seagalogy: The rear end-Kicking Films of Steven Seagal, I enjoyed the reviews as much as the films and it goes into some detail as to how good (or not) each film is. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Seagalogy-rear end-Kicking-Steven-Seagal-Updated/dp/0857687220
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Interesting to learn the Executive Decision story is apocryphal considering there's like 20 people who back up the getting choked out by Gene LaBell story. I guess how much of a prick he is has gone back and inception-ed other actors/directors' memories of working with him.
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Gene Labell is a huge bullshitter and Steven Seagal is a huge prick. That's how you find two dozen people who are willing to bend the truth a bit to humiliate a jerk.
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weekly font posted:Interesting to learn the Executive Decision story is apocryphal considering there's like 20 people who back up the getting choked out by Gene LaBell story. I guess how much of a prick he is has gone back and inception-ed other actors/directors' memories of working with him. Interesting, I've heard that story told as just some random stunt guy who went on to work with Kevin Hart on something. So, either Steven Seagal poo poo his pants twice, or it's just a flexible story
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I like Executive Decision but holy gently caress, did they waste David Suchet's talent as a generic terrorist. The man was the best Hercule Poirot and has some serious acting chops. Though he did have quite the intimidating presence in the film so at least he did the best he could with what material he had.
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It's amazing how he peaked with Under Siege and then immediately cratered with On Deadly Ground. Under Siege is a truly great action movie, if you haven't seen it you really should. On Deadly Ground on the other hand... hoo boy, that sucked. I'd rate that as one of the worst movies I've ever seen. My RPG/going to the range group all saw it together. Then we went back to someone's apartment, had beers, and tried to piece together what the hell had just happened. It's bad. It's really bad. It's "star high on his own ego directs the followup to his first smash success, but gets two nobodies to collaborate on their first screenplay" bad. It's the confusing kind of bad. I wonder what Michael Caine spent his check on ? I bet it was nice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyD_6_jFB8A
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Blast Fantasto posted:It’s just wild that someone could have a such limited, precarious type of fame (martial arts action star) and not realize that being a cruel rear end in a top hat is likely to shorten that already short window. Ha! Ha! Ha!
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Jimbot posted:I like Executive Decision but holy gently caress, did they waste David Suchet's talent as a generic terrorist. The man was the best Hercule Poirot and has some serious acting chops. When you look back at it, that entire cast is absolutely ridiculous.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Gene Labell is a huge bullshitter and Steven Seagal is a huge prick. That's how you find two dozen people who are willing to bend the truth a bit to humiliate a jerk. Gene Lebell is a loud braggart, but he's a physical beast even as an old man. Dude is like a pitbull crossed with a bear. I have no doubt that this story is possible (especially as it's a well known 'party trick' of Genes). The problem I have with the story is a stuntman simply doesn't pull this poo poo with the star of the movie and get away with it. Especially with an ego as fragile as Seagal. I think you're right in that there was probably some back stage dick waving, the pants making GBS threads story came up and people ran with it because Seagal is a collosal prick and old Gene loves a good yarn. But seriously.. even old man Gene would pull your head off
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mllaneza posted:It's amazing how he peaked with Under Siege and then immediately cratered with On Deadly Ground. Under Siege is a truly great action movie, if you haven't seen it you really should. On Deadly Ground on the other hand... hoo boy, that sucked. I'd rate that as one of the worst movies I've ever seen. My RPG/going to the range group all saw it together. Then we went back to someone's apartment, had beers, and tried to piece together what the hell had just happened. On Deadly Ground at least had a few memorable kills and R Lee Emery being R Lee Emery. Fire Down Below is where it gets really dire.
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The most fun game to play when watching a Seagal-centric vehicle is counting how many times he gets injured from the second act of any movie until credits. Hint: It is always zero.
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I wanted to say I hate films where the hero doesn't get hit but I realized I came into this thread to announce that RE:Born is now on Shudder...
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Disposable Scud posted:I wanted to say I hate films where the hero doesn't get hit but I realized I came into this thread to announce that RE:Born is now on Shudder... This movie loving rules. For most of its length, it's an airsoft team's MGS fan fiction, then the fights start and it's loving top notch.
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Tart Kitty posted:The most fun game to play when watching a Seagal-centric vehicle is counting how many times he gets injured from the second act of any movie until credits.
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Snowman_McK posted:On Deadly Ground at least had a few memorable kills and R Lee Emery being R Lee Emery. Fire Down Below is where it gets really dire. I"m glad I stopped with his films where we did !
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ruddiger posted:Passenger 57 and Drop Zone make for a hell of a double feature. Add in Blade and Demolition Man, Snipes was really up next, loving feds did him dirty. I'n pretty sure that Snipes going to prison was the first time people cared about him for years.
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I always took Seagal's little girl run and just how bloated he became as proof that he was a massive juicer.
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Seagal's best movie is Belly of the Beast. It's high art comedy from start to loving finish. It has everything. He's protected by Buddhist magic at the end, I'm hollering at the top of my lungs the entire runtime. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zec4w7S1M2Y
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Neo Rasa posted:I loving love Under Siege 2. I've mentioned it before but I'm a huge sucker for any movie that features a CD-ROM as a maguffin
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