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This is just an abstract representation of the memory playing in Loup's head. Or it could be very literal, the ether is weird like that. Either way it's not Coyote coming back.
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We've been in a weird not-quite-reality state since they entered the forest. It looked explicitly like the ether when Loup swam around in Annie's connection with Rey, but other than that it's weird and unreal but not quite looking like the ether either.
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Nov 4, 2019 20:17
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IT'S ME ANNIE. IT WAS ME ALL ALONG! https://youtu.be/cNgxyL5zEAk
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Nov 4, 2019 21:45
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But is he Coyote dreaming he was Loup, or Loup dreaming he was Coyote?
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Nov 4, 2019 22:27
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Drunk Canuck posted:IT'S ME ANNIE. Renard: Aw, son of a bitch!
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Nov 4, 2019 22:32
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GunnerJ posted:Loup saw something that he didn't like the looks of (but that Renard seems to not have noticed), and it made him want to quit fooling around and accelerate his schedule. It's not clear what that was exactly, but this feels like foreshadowing, not like something is missing. It was Dickbutt
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My bet is that Coyote is only going to briefly manifest, possibly in the form of a pre-recorded message, to tell Annies about something.
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Nov 5, 2019 13:36
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I'm on the goose remembering it's coyote camp but only because I haven't found loup nearly as interesting
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Lurdiak posted:My bet is that Coyote is only going to briefly manifest, possibly in the form of a pre-recorded message, to tell Annies about something. Yeah, this makes the most sense. Solving it right now would be too easy, and she was able to talk with Ys before as well so it's not like it's a thing Loup can't do, just probably doesn't want to do.
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Nov 5, 2019 14:44
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With this page, I am 100% convinced that Coyote at least is voiced by Mark Hamill.
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Nov 6, 2019 14:28
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Coyote is so much more fun I missed him
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EmmyOk posted:Coyote is so much more fun I missed him I agree. Although Tom has been able to grow lovely characters pretty well, so I'm hoping the same happens with Loup. Right now he's just an all powerful child. He needs to grow up a bit.
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Nov 6, 2019 15:15
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He needs to be smacked on the rump, that's what he needs. 
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Nov 6, 2019 15:42
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Coyote's bound to suggest to him that the pursuit of the other objects will enable him to control the forest but that won't change how Loup's just unbelievably bad at it.
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Nov 6, 2019 16:06
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I just want to say that Coyote is clearly royalty, what with the whole not letting being dead get in the way of a perfectly interesting life experience.
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Nov 7, 2019 20:15
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Coyote was a pretty great example of Royalty from the start. He definitely seems like someone who wouldn't conquer the universe simply because he doesn't feel like it.
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Donkringel posted:I agree. Ya for sure, it feels like Loup has been around ages but pages wise not so much when I think of it likethat. I have every faith in Tom but currently in the story having Coyote around too just makes Loup feel like Coyote was killed off and replaced with a knock off.
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Nov 7, 2019 20:21
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I mean Loup's SUPPOSED to be lovely, so I'm ok with it. The comic would be boring without changes in the status quo.
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I don't have a problem with changing the status quo but currently that change is replacing a great character with the same character but worse.
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Well... Yes. And that created tension and drama in the story. If you miss Coyote, Tom's done his job, because everyone in the comic does too. Coyote was always a ticking time bomb. Loup is the aftermath.
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I think the problem isn't that Loup is unlikable, it's that he isn't a very interesting character so far. I too have faith in Tom, but he just doesn't have much charisma and isn't very fun to hate. He's just kind of bratty and obnoxious. Of course, the last few chapters have felt a bit... Weird. I feel like the art style has had a lot more deformed chibi style depictions added to it than it ever used to have. Maybe Tom is just trying out different styles, but these last few Loup pages especially feel like almost a different art style than before. With how much Tom pays attention to style matching substance, I'm guessing this isn't just him experimenting.
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Nov 8, 2019 02:33
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Loup's art style has been inconsistent from the start to illustrate his chaotic nature. But it's not a smooth chaos like coyote.
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To clarify I meant in general rather than just Loup, but thinking about it maybe it's only been Loup, Reynard, and the Annies that have been drawn like that? Has anyone else?
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Nov 8, 2019 03:22
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Does that count as a self own if it's your past persona doing it?
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CodfishCartographer posted:To clarify I meant in general rather than just Loup, but thinking about it maybe it's only been Loup, Reynard, and the Annies that have been drawn like that? Has anyone else? I would say Loup's influence of the Ether in the forest is responsible. They looked normal on the trip there, but since Loup is a bratty kid with world-bending power, he sees this moldable world in childish forms. So, cute little fireheads and huggable Renard.
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Nov 8, 2019 10:53
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Okay I have no idea what's going on anymore. Especially remembering that Coyote never lies.
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Nov 8, 2019 12:12
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uh, looks like the court might be shifting the omega project into overdrive?
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Nov 8, 2019 12:21
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"Did you go anywhere unusual at the Court while we were away, Renard?" "Hm? No, I was with Katarina the whole time."
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https://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2224 Oh poo poo burn
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Kikas posted:Okay I have no idea what's going on anymore. Especially remembering that Coyote never lies. Loup will be powerful enough - because he already is. It does look like Loup needs their help - because he enlisted it. Coyote might not state falsehoods but he's still a career bullshitter.
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Nov 8, 2019 15:34
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Kikas posted:Okay I have no idea what's going on anymore. Especially remembering that Coyote never lies. I like the implication Coyote leaves by saying that Loup will surely have the power to shape the world, but doesn't acknowledge Loup being more powerful than him. That's telling.
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coyote's in full popcorn mode and probably has a bit of himself in all the gifts just so he can watch an overambitious baby trickster get their comeuppance while he's dead
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CYBEReris posted:coyote's in full popcorn mode and probably has a bit of himself in all the gifts just so he can watch an overambitious baby trickster get their comeuppance while he's dead I also suspect that death isn't particularly permanent for Coyote. Or even a minor inconvenience.
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Yeah my expectation from the moment Coyote died was that he planned this all somehow (and it turned out he did plan to die, according to Loup), and my expectation ever since Loup mentioned the gifts is that they'll one way or another bring Coyote back and undo Loup. Loup is a tool Coyote is using to get around his own limitations -- stuff like 'Coyote never lies'. Loup is a creature with Coyote's powers not beholden to Coyote's promises. Back when coyote first died, I was a little annoyed that it was just another addition to the list of things that we know are part of Coyote's long-running secret plan but are waiting to find out how. But I've grown to enjoy that a little more recently. Shrug and see where this goes.
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Saying that Loup should have "more than enough" power to control things once he gets the gifts perhaps implies that he has enough to do so at present. Really, it just goes to show that Loup still thinks too much like Ysengrin. "If only I had Coyote's strength, everything would work itself out." "If only I had Coyote's gifts, I'd be able to control everything." His problem is he's looking for a silver bullet to solve his problems, instead of facing them down. It doesn't matter how much power he accumulates, he'll always be stuck as long as his mindset doesn't change. In many ways, Loup is just an Ysengrin that's trying way too hard to be Coyote. He says he's neither of them, he needs to actually live up to that.
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IIRC yeah death is a slap on the wrist for Coyote. I think the stories straight up tell all it takes for him to resurrect is for someone to jump over his corpse.
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Coyote has died in several of his stories. Usually it's because one of his pranks backfires on him.
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Bongo Bill posted:Coyote has died in several of his stories. Usually it's because one of his pranks backfires on him. Really makes you appreciate the old Coyote and Road Runner cartoons.
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Kantesu posted:Saying that Loup should have "more than enough" power to control things once he gets the gifts perhaps implies that he has enough to do so at present. Really, it just goes to show that Loup still thinks too much like Ysengrin. "If only I had Coyote's strength, everything would work itself out." "If only I had Coyote's gifts, I'd be able to control everything." His problem is he's looking for a silver bullet to solve his problems, instead of facing them down. It doesn't matter how much power he accumulates, he'll always be stuck as long as his mindset doesn't change. Which may be the "trick" Coyote is playing. I'd put chips on this.
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