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You’re overthinking this. You can cast other creature cards as literal Mulldrifters.
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Ah. Yeah, OK.
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Huxley posted:What does it DO though? All your creatures get Evoke for 2 generic less than their cost? All your creatures draw 2 on ETB? Both? all your creature cards become split cards, where they're Mulldrifter//[whatever it normally is]
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Since these things have black borders, they could reprint them as normal cards if they wanted to, yes? The 'not playable in constructed' doesn't have to be oracle text if they just don't make them legal in any format.
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ItBreathes posted:Since these things have black borders, they could reprint them as normal cards if they wanted to, yes? The 'not playable in constructed' doesn't have to be oracle text if they just don't make them legal in any format. apparently an official writeup on these is coming next week, which is probably when they'll say what their potential legality is
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Nov 8, 2019 02:43
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i assume it's more trying out things that are well outside normal rules, but closer than unsets, to see player responses. also a reprint set that gives people fun cards they can use in their own cubes/edh/etc decks like conspiracy
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I guess they could, most of the playtest cards seem like cards that they would never actualy print though. Even the ones that don't seem obviously broken are probably horribly broken in some way if you got to play them in a constructed format. They have printed silver bordered cards in black border previously though so nothings impossible.
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aka it's conspiracy but they can make wild cards without breaking legacy/vintage
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my guess is this is them experimenting with wacky cards after the success of unstable and seeing if there's room for a set that's a middle ground between a typical draft set and unstable's full-on "nearly everything is bananas" stylings most of the playtest cards are either incredibly weird, do something that isn't well-designed in the rules, or are judge-headache-inducers on the level of panglacial wurm so i doubt they'd get reprinted as full cards some of these do seem like them experimenting with design space that i know maro has mentioned them testing on their blog and discarding for being too confusing - land tokens and cards referencing specific other cards as potential effects - so maybe they're seeing if those cards are actually real issues they need to worry about or if they can do more with that space President Ark fucked around with this message at 02:48 on Nov 8, 2019 |
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Nov 8, 2019 02:45
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President Ark posted:my guess is this is them experimenting with wacky cards after the success of unstable and seeing if there's room for a set that's a middle ground between a typical draft set and unstable's full-on "nearly everything is bananas" stylings maro's already talked about it on his blog: https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/188889638258/mark-be-honest-are-the-test-cards-you-sneaking they're beyond unstable on the silliness scale intentionally; silver bordered cards are still meant to be playable in some way and the test cards here are meant to have the entertainment factor take priority over any sense of playability
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Nov 8, 2019 02:51
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Well that's that then.
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https://twitter.com/GavinVerhey/status/1192573814321950722?s=19
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flatluigi posted:maro's already talked about it on his blog: https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/188889638258/mark-be-honest-are-the-test-cards-you-sneaking Interestingly, Gavin's tweets on this subject differ from Maro's: https://twitter.com/GavinVerhey/status/1192582023732498432 https://twitter.com/GavinVerhey/status/1192596671923929088 EDIT: I guess both of these things could be true. Maybe design-ways, unset cards are farther along, whereas these are less workshopped than silver border cards but still closer to something that could potentially be printed in black border? 510rems fucked around with this message at 03:10 on Nov 8, 2019 |
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So they've renamed R&D to Tabletop Studio.
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They seem consistent to me. Un-set cards at least get proper playtesting and go through balance passes. Playtest cards are "eh who cares ship it and see if they like it".
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dragon enthusiast posted:They seem consistent to me. Un-set cards at least get proper playtesting and go through balance passes. Playtest cards are "eh who cares ship it and see if they like it". They have almost inverted design goals. Un-sets work outside the conventional rules of Magic but are still designed to create a playable limited environment, while the Playtest cards are all mechanically functional but not tuned for balance of sanity of play experience.
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Voyager I posted:They have almost inverted design goals. Un-sets work outside the conventional rules of Magic but are still designed to create a playable limited environment, while the Playtest cards are all mechanically functional but not tuned for balance of sanity of play experience. You say "un-sets", but it really feels like you're just talking about Unstable, because the other ones were absolutely nothing like this.
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I think token named spells is very interesting design space that they've already used on actual Planeswalkers. I think "every card can also be a mulldrifter" is probably too far, but like... not unreasonably so. Edit: like, I hope this is WotC testing the waters on this because I think it's really cool. Tibalt fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Nov 8, 2019 |
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Is there anywhere that has a collection of all the test card pics in one spot yet?
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Jabor posted:You say "un-sets", but it really feels like you're just talking about Unstable, because the other ones were absolutely nothing like this. maro has all but confirmed on his blog that future un-sets will be more like unstable, as "kinda goofy off-the-wall mechanics" played a lot better than "jokes that are funny to read but not actually play"
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whydirt posted:Is there anywhere that has a collection of all the test card pics in one spot yet? http://mythicspoiler.com/newspoilers.html has a lot of them but there's some missing (off the top of my head it doesn't have form of mulldrifter)
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These cards are rad as hell, and there are a ton of great ideas in them.
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Scrycast is both an insanely cool mechanic, and absolutely loving broken at the same time so I hope it never gets used It's also basically madness for scry instead of discard
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commander cards are in the set: https://twitter.com/GavinVerhey/status/1192592265438519296
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Nov 8, 2019 04:10
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LOL it's "stickered" on top of a blue-white card. 
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Tainen posted:SCG puts the final nail in legacy’s coffin Didn't expect that. Legacy was the only format besides limited that I've enjoyed over the last few years so I'm likely going to just sell off the 2 decks I have and go limited only for now. Pioneer could have potential but I'm not going to buy into any deck at least until after the first PT.
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Entropic posted:LOL it's "stickered" on top of a blue-white card. Just to refresh my memory, this was the designer search question which posited what colours should a flying vigilance 4/4 gold creature be? And the correct answer was g/b, because flying was secondary in black, as was vigilance in green. And that there was some reasoning as to it not being w/u, because each of those abilities are primary in those colours, which means it could also be a blue card or a white card (but not a w/u card, apparently)?
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Drewjitsu posted:Just to refresh my memory, this was the designer search question which posited what colours should a flying vigilance 4/4 gold creature be? And the correct answer was g/b, because flying was secondary in black, as was vigilance in green. And that there was some reasoning as to it not being w/u, because each of those abilities are primary in those colours, which means it could also be a blue card or a white card (but not a w/u card, apparently)? i mean, the question literally started with "we don't like making multicolored cards that could be done by just one of their colors; knowing this, what colors would you put a 4/4 flying vigilance card in?" and i feel like if your response to that is "white/blue duh" then you may need a reading comprehension exam e: like, in a vacuum i'd agree, but in the context of an exam they don't have that first sentence there for no reason
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Agreed. They printed Serra's Sphinx, so they should reprint Harmonize in every core set, since they're both valid color shifts.
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Yes. The reason being the question told you it was the wrong answer. Magic nerds, being what they are, went en masse "No, it's the question that is wrong".
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whydirt posted:Is there anywhere that has a collection of all the test card pics in one spot yet? according to gavin the entire collection of cards in the set ranges from 1000 to 2000 so, no
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ItBreathes posted:Yes. The reason being the question told you it was the wrong answer. Magic nerds, being what they are, went en masse "No, it's the question that is wrong". i'm almost tempted to reignite the argument
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also the initials of that card are "GDS" and it has 3 colorless mana in the cost
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ItBreathes posted:Yes. The reason being the question told you it was the wrong answer. Magic nerds, being what they are, went en masse "No, it's the question that is wrong". the question passive-aggressively waffled about what the wrong answer was. "we prefer not to" and "we do not" are very different statements, and it's also very clear that wizards do in fact prefer to print flying and vigilance on creatures that aren't green and black
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ungulateman posted:the question passive-aggressively waffled about what the wrong answer was. "we prefer not to" and "we do not" are very different statements, and it's also very clear that wizards do in fact prefer to print flying and vigilance on creatures that aren't green and black if the correct answer included white, why would the first sentence have been included? this isn't a lovely gotcha quiz designed by reddit nerds, it was made by the company
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it was a lovely gotcha quiz question, designed by the company 
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ungulateman posted:it was a lovely gotcha quiz question, designed by the company you got it wrong, didn't you e: vvv fair enough, i wasn't around for the initial one so i didn't realize it was a minefield President Ark fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Nov 8, 2019 |
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President Ark posted:you got it wrong, didn't you i have no idea what you think you're accomplishing by relitigating this argument, please just shut up.
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President Ark posted:you got it wrong, didn't you no i got it right because i'm a philosophy student who's used to absolutely loving dogshit questions that have everything to do with the premises and nothing to do with observed reality
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Rinkles posted:i'm almost tempted to reignite the argument Do it....
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