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Tulip posted:I couldn't find any evidence from their TL that they ever check first hand reports from living people so it's just utterly hollow to act like they've got special insight into what is and isn't propaganda. ah but what if those living people were all CIA agents
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:ah but what if those living people were all CIA agents it is well known that all non-English publications are CIA plants
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the thing to do with "the CIA is the demiurge and falsifies all media that exists outside of my own head" guys is to skip the epistemological argument that can only ever end in you getting declared a CIA agent and just gently push them into HAARP and UFO theories
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"No, you see, according to the 14th amendment everyone has due process and equal rights, so therefore the blacks are actually being treated quite well in the south"
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:the thing to do with "the CIA is the demiurge and falsifies all media that exists outside of my own head" guys is to skip the epistemological argument that can only ever end in you getting declared a CIA agent and just gently push them into HAARP and UFO theories I dunno if you've seen the news lately but UFOs are real
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if the uygher genocide is all CIA propaganda the CIA is doing a pretty poo poo job at making it front-page news, you have to really dig to find anything about it. they're not even doing the chomsky critique of emphasizing certain genocides over others, which is extremely valid; they're just saying it's invented out of whole cloth i even saw one that was like "YES china has re-education camps for people with right-wing ideology" like uhhhh i dunno about going to bat for something that's openly a re-education camp lmao
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kingcobweb posted:i even saw one that was like "YES china has re-education camps for people with right-wing ideology" like uhhhh i dunno about going to bat for something that's openly a re-education camp lmao That would own though. We should do that too
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Imagine saying that when: The United States has the highest prison and jail population (2,121,600 in adult facilities in 2016), and the highest incarceration rate in the world (655 per 100,000 population in 2016).[1] According to the World Prison Population List (11th edition) there were around 10.35 million people in penal institutions worldwide in 2015.[2] The US had 2,173,800 prisoners in adult facilities in 2015.[3] That means the US held 21.0% of the world's prisoners in 2015, even though the US represented only around 4.4 percent of the world's population in 2015.[4][5]
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we are going to have to re-educate a lot of chuds tho
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if they were owning it and like "the camps are good actually, the uyghurs are reactionary" that's at least a... possible conversation to have but they're just straight up lying for authoritarians they like cause the truth would be hard to defend
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Serf posted:we are going to have to re-educate a lot of chuds tho
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TBF that post was in reaction to this one https://twitter.com/asmiinaaa/status/1190465832758972416 which is about as unfounded and baseless, and yet only one of them gets called out as loving crazy
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the skinned alive one is new to me but the sterilizations and rape have been... pretty consistent primary source claims? and kinda part of the standard ethnic oppression package well before you get to the actually putting people in camps level, c.f. Puerto Ricans, Beta Israel, etc. So yeah that comes off a lot less crazy just shouty
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gradenko_2000 posted:TBF that post was in reaction to this one funny how america did all this to natives
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Funny how that makes it OK Funny how we don't really care aside from going for some easy burns against Amerikkka
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:the skinned alive one is new to me but the sterilizations and rape have been... pretty consistent primary source claims? https://twitter.com/MrJames_Casey/status/1191316871318048769 https://twitter.com/MrJames_Casey/status/1191320940157779968 https://twitter.com/MrJames_Casey/status/1192052079549960192
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steinrokkan posted:Funny how that makes it OK nice strawman
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got any sevens posted:funny how america did all this to natives We loooooooved forced sterilizations, of natives, black people, Puerto Ricans, you name it. I decided to check Wikipedia for the most recent officially recognized forced sterilization, take a guess at the year! 148 female prisoners in two California institutions were sterilized  between 2006 and 2010 in a supposedly voluntary program, but it was determined that the prisoners did not give consent to the procedures.[101] In September 2014, California enacted Bill SB 1135 that bans sterilization in correctional facilities, unless the procedure shall be required in a medical emergency to preserve inmate's life.[102]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilization#United_States
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:it's infinitely loving worse, nobody should be able to afford a megayacht in the first place when there's thousands of people sleeping under bridges in their town, but at least having been presented with that money they're recirculating it back to people who work for a living. Wealth hoarders are just destroying the stuff everyone else needs to live for the thrill of it. That’s the broken windows fallacy. What makes hoarding wealth bad is that it breeds more wealth. Ultimately, the damage is done when money is exchanged for pointless goods and services. If it were literally impossible to withdraw the money, hoarding it would be harmless.
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Platystemon posted:That’s the broken windows fallacy. fairly spicy but you should work eugenics into it or smth
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:fairly spicy but you should work eugenics into it or smth The wise man bowed his head solemnly and spoke: “There is actually zero difference between 1BitcoinEaterAddressDontSendf59kuE and all the land in Vancouver.”
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someone didnt look up what happened to the bonus army
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China’s a powerful country so they’re probably guilty of everything they’ve been accused of just like any other powerful country
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what's the hot take besides the presumption of the existence of a left of center billionaire?
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FFT posted:what's the hot take besides the presumption of the existence of a left of center billionaire? yes, the assumption of the existence of a "left-of-center billionaire" is a hot take even if one existed, you don't/can't/shouldn't form a theory of political power, or even just the field of mass media content creation, that revolves around the idea of a "benevolent billionaire" to control it, because A. that's still undemocratic, and B. the profit-motive ensures that whatever "good" you can squeeze out from your billionaire patron is going to turn on you when the chips are down
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gradenko_2000 posted:yes, the assumption of the existence of a "left-of-center billionaire" is a hot take Maybe, but that clearly has already occurred and it's just a question of who defines "good" Just calling it lukewarm
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but what if we improved the air quality by moving away from fossil fuels??? wouldn't that help people with asthma?? asking for a friend who is actually an anthropomorphic inhaler
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You know they’re stretching when they have to compare to an arbitrary number of cars driving an arbitrary distance. quote:That, Britain’s Sky News pointed out, is the same carbon footprint as 180,000 gas-powered cars driving making the round-trip journey between London and Edinburgh—about 1,300 km (or approximately 800 miles) each. It was achieved by mucking with the medication of half a million people. If a tiny proportion of those people were, say, hospitalised as a result, the gains would be reversed.
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Please, Kanye. How can you invoke the elements and not recognize the fifth, aether/void/Leeloo.
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Lady Galaga posted:ACAB is regarded as a hate symbol, yet somehow it escapes critique when used on this very forum
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gradenko_2000 posted:it's a hot take because Giridharadas isn't taking as an affirmative statement as you are. Unless this is a bit, he's still phrasing like a question, as if he can't quite believe it yet. And his prior work: https://twitter.com/AnandWrites/status/1192219369671147521 From further up his thread, he does know better, context of the original tweets wasn't really clear.
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