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Ever since I've read it, I've maintained that Dr. Sleep is a good book, but not a good sequel. It was a story that didn't need to be told, but not one I'm disappointed in having read.
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BiggerBoat posted:Got it. Salem’s Lot is the only I could think of (yes I have read One For the Road and Jerusalem’s Lot). Honestly I would just like a novel about Hubie Marsten’s time in the Lot. Also I wouldn’t mind if King would release the scrapbook from The Shining. I love reading the background of The Overlook. Leavemywife posted:Ever since I've read it, I've maintained that Dr. Sleep is a good book, but not a good sequel. It was a story that didn't need to be told, but not one I'm disappointed in having read. Same. nate fisher fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Nov 8, 2019 |
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Nov 8, 2019 01:15
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I didn’t like Black House or Dr. Sleep and I loved the Shining and Talisman. King’s sequel game is not good (Dark Tower was a series not sequels). But Dr. Sleep had to also live up to expectations being The Shining 2. No book is going to manage that.
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Nov 8, 2019 02:23
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Krispy Wafer posted:King’s sequel game is not good (Dark Tower was a series not sequels). Or film. A Shining follow up is just simply not needed or, to me, even desirable. What other sequels has King done though? I know he'll sometimes weave stuff in and out of different books or build off a short story or something but I'm hard pressed to think of a direct follow up that wasn't some cheesy movie cash in like Children of the Corn 2,3,4, Carrie 2 or Pet Semetary 2. I don't see where King even has a "sequel game" beyond Dr Sleep and Salem's Lot. I guess Desperation and The Regulators if you count those. I forgot about Black House. I can't think of one I'd want to read or that even opens itself up for a follow up... I suppose you could gently caress around with Christine but meh...Maybe The Stand or IT you could do something with but I'm not clamoring for those either. I wish he could just drum up something that just flat out scares the poo poo of me for a change like he used to be so good at.
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Nov 8, 2019 02:44
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BiggerBoat posted:Or film. A Shining follow up is just simply not needed or, to me, even desirable. He has surprisingly few sequels considering he's written 90+ books and they're 100% disappointing so it's probably good he doesn't do it very often. I never read One For the Road so I'll have to see if that's any good.
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Nov 8, 2019 03:22
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I think The Stand could be done, if it were years ahead in the timeline. The end of the novel had Flagg emerging from the water somewhere that the natives couldn't understand the half dozen languages he babbled at them. It would take him time to find people he could manipulate, and consolidate his power base. Then he may have to cross an ocean to get back towards Boulder. In the meantime, Boulder and area prospers, but the divine nature of Mother Abigail and the miracles that saved people begins to dim in memory, until it is only legends that nobody believes really happened. More years pass, farming communities grow, amd trade with each other. There's still danger from disease and fire, and the odd pack of bandits, but then one day, a few scouts are on the edges of their territory, and they run into a squad of Flagg's new crew. Maybe words are exchanged, or just violence, but now Boulder has a large and organized enemy coming to stamp it out. Just a quick example of a direction they could go with, but I think there's more stories to tell in the ruins of a post- Captain Trips world.
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Nov 8, 2019 06:16
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Krispy Wafer posted:He has surprisingly few sequels considering he's written 90+ books and they're 100% disappointing so it's probably good he doesn't do it very often. One for the Road is very good, it's a story you can revisit every once in a while and still get scared a little bit.
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Nov 8, 2019 06:41
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I'd be down for a Stand sequel. Or hell, just make the book 1,000 pages longer. As a massive hypochondriac, the first 1/4th of that book is some of the scariest stuff I've ever read.
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Nov 8, 2019 06:49
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Lester Shy posted:As a massive hypochondriac, the first 1/4th of that book is some of the scariest stuff I've ever read. Same. I catch a cold every time I read it.
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Nov 8, 2019 13:28
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The Stand extended version was King’s gift to us all.
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Nov 8, 2019 14:39
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I’m reading the extended version so I don’t know what was added and what wasn’t, and the only thing that feels aged is how information got out with tv and radio broadcasts. There is the weird part with the military execution event with the black soldier, because it’s mentioned as being on tv and Frannie sees it and thinks “no way would that be real and on tv”
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Nov 8, 2019 14:48
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I think The Cell really needs a sequel... said no one ever.
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Nov 8, 2019 14:53
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Canuckistan posted:I think The Cell really needs a sequel... 4G(host)
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Nov 8, 2019 14:56
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I'm p.sure that what Cell needed was either a) an ending, or b) and editor strong enough tp go, enough of the bullshit, Steve-O, get this finished. Or, you know, both. Finally ploughed through the end of End of Watch - I can't remember a King that I had such difficulty finishing. I've got Revival on the bookshelf, waiting for me, but all this vintage King chat has got me looking to my broken-paperbacked Night Shift and Skeleton Crew. ooh poo poo just checked and Night Shift has both Jerusalem's Lot and One For The Road. That cinches it.
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Nov 8, 2019 15:07
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bobjr posted:I’m reading the extended version so I don’t know what was added and what wasn’t, and the only thing that feels aged is how information got out with tv and radio broadcasts. There is the weird part with the military execution event with the black soldier, because it’s mentioned as being on tv and Frannie sees it and thinks “no way would that be real and on tv” A lot of stuff when society is breaking down was originally cut out. You know, the best part of the book. As for Frannie, I’m remembering correctly weren’t the bad guys almost naked? I’d be questioning reality in that circumstance.
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Nov 8, 2019 19:11
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Leavemywife posted:Ever since I've read it, I've maintained that Dr. Sleep is a good book, but not a good sequel. It was a story that didn't need to be told, but not one I'm disappointed in having read. My thoughts too. Well put.
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Nov 8, 2019 19:42
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bobjr posted:I’m reading the extended version so I don’t know what was added and what wasn’t, and the only thing that feels aged is how information got out with tv and radio broadcasts. There is the weird part with the military execution event with the black soldier, because it’s mentioned as being on tv and Frannie sees it and thinks “no way would that be real and on tv” If I recall correctly, didn't The Wastelands have a similar scene during the Fall of Lud? Someone was leading people into a mechanical device that killed them horribly?
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Nov 8, 2019 19:55
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Canuckistan posted:If I recall correctly, didn't The Wastelands have a similar scene during the Fall of Lud? Someone was leading people into a mechanical device that killed them horribly? If I remember correctly, it was a huge dude tossing people into one of those big industrial piledrivers, one after another. Then whoever saw the scene (can't remember if it was Eddie or Jake) notices that the people were all willingly lining up to be tossed in.
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Nov 8, 2019 20:23
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Canuckistan posted:If I recall correctly, didn't The Wastelands have a similar scene during the Fall of Lud? Someone was leading people into a mechanical device that killed them horribly? They were also having multiple daily hangings when the drums started. Which always irritated me a bit, seems that that even nearly mad people would: a) not put up with it for long and b) they’d soon find themselves running short of people.
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Nov 8, 2019 20:31
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Canuckistan posted:I think The Cell really needs a sequel... I bought Cell and From a Buick 8 for a dollar each at a charity shop. They got the better end of the deal. I caught the last 20 minutes of Cell on TV the other day. I will never get that time back.
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Nov 9, 2019 13:26
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The Cell was good when everyone was killing one another and then started going off the rails as soon as the Harvard zombie started talking. The ending sucked, but so did the middle.
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Nov 9, 2019 14:59
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Someone earlier in the thread wrote that Cell is a book that starts out good, and gets a little worse every chapter.
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Krispy Wafer posted:As for Frannie, I’m remembering correctly weren’t the bad guys almost naked? I’d be questioning reality in that circumstance. Loincloths. FRONT AND CENTER PUH-LEEZE.
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The Zombie Guy posted:Someone earlier in the thread wrote that Cell is a book that starts out good, and gets a little worse every chapter. This. It had a great start but I think the drop was more than a little and wasn't gradual. It was abrupt. I'll usually finish any book that gets me to read more than 1/4 of it but I never finished Cell, which is a shame because the first 3rd of it or so was fantastic and looked like it was going in a really exciting direction. I've skimmed some of King's work on occasion (parts of 11/22/63) but pretty sure Cell was the only one I ever put down. I don't count The Talisman which I tried to read 2x and also couldn't finish.
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Nov 9, 2019 16:47
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I liked 11/22/63 a lot, but the idea that someone can kind of cheat history but has to be in that history for some time and deal with little problems is interesting to me.
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bobjr posted:I liked 11/22/63 a lot, but the idea that someone can kind of cheat history but has to be in that history for some time and deal with little problems is interesting to me. The idea of some rube just using it to buy cheap hamburger amuses me more
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The Zombie Guy posted:Someone earlier in the thread wrote that Cell is a book that starts out good, and gets a little worse every chapter. I guess this is true, but for me the drop off was exponential once the initial event was over and by the end of the first act who even gives a poo poo
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Nov 12, 2019 02:13
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I03MAkQ_OyM this is doing a hell of a lot of work to make The Outsider look actually creepy and not just a Mr Mercedes spin-off
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Vishass posted:I guess this is true, but for me the drop off was exponential once the initial event was over and by the end of the first act who even gives a poo poo The psychic zombie stuff was what pushed me over the edge on that one. Still finished it, because at least it was short, but it's probably my least favorite king book.
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bobjr posted:I’m reading the extended version so I don’t know what was added and what wasn’t, and the only thing that feels aged is how information got out with tv and radio broadcasts. There is the weird part with the military execution event with the black soldier, because it’s mentioned as being on tv and Frannie sees it and thinks “no way would that be real and on tv” "No Great Loss" was cut from the original, so that alone is worth reading the unedited version, IMO. Davros1 posted:I had totally pictured the big dude from "Coach" as Tom Moon when I had read the book years before the miniseries. Our dude's name is Tom Cullen (I'm acquainted with a Tom Cullen and I want to M-O-O-N him all the time) but that seems as natural a slip as one could make lol
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Nov 18, 2019 17:09
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Eat This Glob posted:
M-O-O-N; that's how you spell "D'oh!"
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I've been in a funk reading-wise, where nothing new looks good, so I am re-reading Duma Key, and drat, I love it just as much as the first time. Sure a lot of the dialogue is unrealistic, but I love me some Wireman.
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April posted:I've been in a funk reading-wise, where nothing new looks good, so I am re-reading Duma Key, and drat, I love it just as much as the first time. Sure a lot of the dialogue is unrealistic, but I love me some Wireman. I really liked almost everything about the book but drat if King wasn’t incredibly heavy handed with foreshadowing in that one.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:I really liked almost everything about the book but drat if King wasn’t incredibly heavy handed with foreshadowing in that one. Yeah, I've rolled my eyes a few times, but the setting & characters & the creepy weirdness are more than enough to balance it out. ETA: Also, the gallery art show scene was super-cringey. It was like an extended 80's sports movie slow clap. Still love it. April fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Nov 24, 2019 |
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I'm into the Boulder Free Zone part of the Stand and it's kind of weird how everyone just brushes off Harold as harmless or at least not worth immediately dealing with. Granted I think Frannie's chapters were among the best of the early parts but now Stu's kind of taken over for that part of the book.
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Nov 26, 2019 06:56
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I think part of it may be people think that everyone in the BFZ thinks that they're the good guys, and all the bad people went west to be with Him. Therefore, Harold is good.
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Nov 26, 2019 13:08
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bobjr posted:I'm into the Boulder Free Zone part of the Stand and it's kind of weird how everyone just brushes off Harold as harmless or at least not worth immediately dealing with. Granted I think Frannie's chapters were among the best of the early parts but now Stu's kind of taken over for that part of the book. I think it's weird how Harold is a 16 year old shut-in nerd and yet somehow he's the smartest person in the world and really good at everything, even niche physical stuff, and people keep trying to vote for him as an elder statesman of Boulder.
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Dark Helmet said it best. Good is dumb. BFZ is struggling to keep the lights on, Vegas has fighter jets.
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Nov 26, 2019 13:41
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Harold is a loser, but Hawk is a badass.
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I re-read Different Seasons for the first time in 25 years. Now during those 25 years I have re-read The Body and Shawshank, but never the whole thing during that time. Still great overall, but my favorite story this time was The Breathing Method. I want King to go back to the club again for a story (The Man Who Would Not Shake Hands is the only other story from the club). Hell I want to join the club now.
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