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TheScott2K posted:"Natural childbirth is The Best" is very real poo poo that is pushed on new mothers unceasingly and it's perfectly fine for her to be like "I want that." It's also perfectly fine for someone to want something important to happen a certain way, regardless of the milestone, and infantilizing them over it is something that weirdly only happens to women. oh it's absolutely fine for someone to want something to happen in a certain way, it's more that we only talk about it when it goes well, and there's no space to talk about when it doesn't go as planned, which is....the majority of the time. so folks are often unprepared when things go wrong and it can be really upsetting and isolating. StrangersInTheNight fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Nov 8, 2019 |
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Nov 8, 2019 20:04
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My friend's first birth was her water breaking then quickly getting her poo poo together and walking out onto the street and flagging down a cab. The cab took her to the hospital where they told her to go home because she probably still has a long while and she was just a nervous first-time-mom. She insisted on staying and gave birth about an hour later. Sometimes that poo poo hits FAST and if you live in some suburban wasteland and don't have a hospital like 5 min away you might be in for some complications.
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Nov 8, 2019 20:04
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TheScott2K posted:as either a mother or co-parent You can just say "parent." It means the same thing
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Nov 8, 2019 20:05
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Sagebrush posted:You can just say "parent." It means the same thing nah, we're on a tear right now about people having the wrong opinions
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Sagebrush posted:You can just say "parent." It means the same thing tell that to like half the dads at my kid's preschool
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Nov 8, 2019 20:07
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TheScott2K posted:"Natural childbirth is The Best" is very real poo poo that is pushed on new mothers unceasingly and it's perfectly fine for her to be like "I want that." It's also perfectly fine for someone to want something important to happen a certain way, regardless of the milestone, and infantilizing them over it is something that weirdly only happens to women. The mother wants to wait until the very last moment before rushing off to the hospital, emphasis on rushing. Wanting a natural childbirth without induction or epidurals is different from throwing caution to the wind and hoping it all works out okay, also putting a lot of sudden pressure on her spouse. Why not just do a home birth with a doula on hand? Why wait until she's feeling contractions before traveling to where medical professionals are? It's not like women don't die during childbirth due to unexpected complications.
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Nov 8, 2019 20:09
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Dazerbeams posted:The mother wants to wait until the very last moment before rushing off to the hospital, emphasis on rushing. Wanting a natural childbirth without induction or epidurals is different from throwing caution to the wind and hoping it all works out okay, also putting a lot of sudden pressure on her spouse. Why not just do a home birth with a doula on hand? Why wait until she's feeling contractions before traveling to where medical professionals are? It's not like women don't die during childbirth due to unexpected complications. None of your loving business.
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Nov 8, 2019 20:12
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Dazerbeams posted:Why wait until she's feeling contractions before traveling to where medical professionals are? Please explain what you think the medical professionals will do if you show up before you're feeling any contractions.
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Dazerbeams posted:Why wait until she's feeling contractions before traveling to where medical professionals are? You're right, more women should travel to the hospital before labor starts!
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Nov 8, 2019 20:13
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To be fair, there can be a long time between your water breaking and the baby actually crowning so it's not as dire as television makes it. Then again you have stories like the one posted about where barely an hour passes before the baby comes out so ymmv
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DamnitGannet posted:To be fair, there can be a long time between your water breaking and the baby actually crowning so it's not as dire as television makes it. With childbirth everyones M always Vs, which is why women should be encouraged to listen to their bodies and everyone else should be encouraged to listen to what women say about their bodies.
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Nov 8, 2019 20:15
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TheScott2K posted:Oh you say this ~woman~ doesn't want to be induced? Let me put down my Malcolm Gladwell paperback and saunter on into the exam room to explain to her why what she wants doesn't matter, because she knows nothing. Nobody cares about that. The issue is with her wanting to experience a "panicked" childbirth.
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extremely online posted:Please explain what you think the medical professionals will do if you show up before you're feeling any contractions. OP states directly she wants to wait until her water breaks, not until labor starts. personally i don't think it's empowering to wait until the last possible second and take health risks for the sake of a cinematic adrenaline rush but i've been informed i'm a Patriarch, so be it
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extremely online posted:With childbirth everyones M always Vs, which is why women should be encouraged to listen to their bodies and everyone else should be encouraged to listen to what women say about their bodies. I think that lady's reasons for wanted to do it the way she does is silly but I really dont think it will be any more dangerous than having a home birth (which people do all the time) or waiting around beforehand at the hospital. Barring a serious emergency like a placenta rupture, or the cord being knotted or wrapped around the neck, she will probably get to the hospital just fine and they will stick her in the delivery room. And who knows, maybe as she gets closer to her due date she will change her mind. I would float the idea to my OBGYN and see what they say, but that's just me 
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I remember when my wife went into labor. It was part of the GI Joe movie when Cobra Commander turned into a snake in the Arctic while looking for Cobra-La. I started crying, then I noticed my wife had been nudging me and telling me her water broke. She told me everything would be OK, we would get through this together, and I told her to shut up because she was interrupting the movie.
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Nov 8, 2019 20:21
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Leon Einstein posted:Nobody cares about that. The issue is with her wanting to experience a "panicked" childbirth. You are all taking her way too literally because your default assumption about an anonymous woman is that she's dumb.
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Childbirth is a nightmare. We were pressured to induce when my wife want ready and didn't dilate. They hosed up her epidural and had to do it again (charged us twice for it of course) then in the end were like "Welp guess we gotta do a c section". If we waited until the baby actually decided it was ready to come out we would have avoided a 3 day labor
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DragQueenofAngmar posted:AITA for wanting a natural labor so I can experience the “panicked, rushing to the hospital” situation? You are right to want this. Life, like childbirth, is a scary panicked rush filled with the temptation of drugs. By bringing your child into the world this way, you are ensuring they have this fact indelibly seared into their brain, forming the foundation of their understanding of the world. Your son will either achieve great things or break under the pressure, but they will have an intuitive understanding of the chaos and cruelty of the world. Your husband is a weak fool. You would do well to  and remove such poison from your life before he sabotages the greatness you are attempting to instill in your children.
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Leon Einstein posted:Nobody cares about that. The issue is with her wanting to experience a "panicked" childbirth. Lol, being in actual labor will clear up her misconceptions pretty fast. The first hour after she's 4 cm will break her.
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Nov 8, 2019 20:22
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TheScott2K posted:You are all taking her way too literally because your default assumption about an anonymous woman is that she's dumb. Anonymous reddit woman *
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Nov 8, 2019 20:22
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CPColin posted:You're right, more women should travel to the hospital before labor starts! I'll clarify that I was referring to labor, since the first contractions start way ahead of labor.
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Nov 8, 2019 20:24
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poo poo like this pregnancy question are why we need stronger labor unions. I'm tired of those bourgeoisie babies extracting surplus labor from our hard working pregnant workers.
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:Childbirth is a nightmare. We were pressured to induce when my wife want ready and didn't dilate. They hosed up her epidural and had to do it again (charged us twice for it of course) then in the end were like "Welp guess we gotta do a c section". If we waited until the baby actually decided it was ready to come out we would have avoided a 3 day labor the gently caress is this "we" poo poo? you didn't do anything.
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cumshitter posted:I remember when my wife went into labor. It was part of the GI Joe movie when Cobra Commander turned into a snake in the Arctic while looking for Cobra-La. I started crying, then I noticed my wife had been nudging me and telling me her water broke. She told me everything would be OK, we would get through this together, and I told her to shut up because she was interrupting the movie. Good call, that scene is rad as Hell. "I....wasssssss onccccccccce....a maaaaaaan!"
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TheScott2K posted:You are all taking her way too literally because your default assumption about an anonymous woman is that she's dumb.
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DeadMansSuspenders posted:My (32M) parents (60's M/F) are insistent that my wife (31F) is driving a wedge through the family by not allowing them to spank our daughter (3F). Oh sure, let's promise a bunch of inbred, backwards hicks who beat their children that they can beat my child whenever they want. Deep in their wretched hearts they know it's wrong to hit children, which is why they're so offended when they're told they can't, even when it's someone else's child. It also seems like they beat their children all the time if they can't go three loving days without beating one. They're horrible people and "don't beat my child" is the very minimum you should be able to expect from a person. This is NOT something you compromise on you doofus LyonsLions posted:Like this dude should be glad his wife even lets their kid be in the same state as his parents after they got lawyers involved. If my inlaws tried to sue me for custody of my children, I wouldn't even let the kids near their graves to piss on them. I agree with the general sentiment but I probably would allow the kids to piss on their graves. It could be a cathartic family moment Pirate Radar posted:I’ve read this three times and the fact that she doesn’t say if he’s saying good or bad things about Boris is killing me I was more thinking he was like, giving a speech in Boris Johnson's voice Kitchner posted:She's loving someone in the office for sure. That's clearly what the writer wants us to think, but I'm suspicious Like how does this work: quote:Saying what i did was super inappropriate because her coworkers/boss saw it and she had to lie and say i was some drunk. with this quote:You see the weird part is i have met her boss a bunch now, hell i went to her work Halloween party less than week ago. So its not like i am some sort of massive secret. So her bosses and coworkers wouldn't recognize someone they saw less than a week ago? Beachcomber posted:Does this mean he's a triplet? Probably not, it's just awkward to try to say. "Two sisters who are twins" is probably the most obvious way to say it but it's also unwieldy and ugly Smirking_Serpent posted:AITA for refusing to play Cannibal Corpse at our wedding? Oh come on, just make a joke out of the fact that the guy only got a single song for the wedding and this was it, people will laugh and get over it Smirking_Serpent posted:WIBTA for not telling a good friend that his wife sent me inappropriate texts? Just keep quiet man, those two can work those things out, or not. Bringing this into it won't help anything, it sounds like they're in the process of figuring out what they're going to do with each other anyways.
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Also this is her second birth so she is already familiar with the process and yeah, every pregnancy/birth is different, but after the first one you know what your 'normal' is and what isn't. I think yall are being too harsh on this lady, I'm sure that even with her 'oh my god we have to go to the hospital right nowww' panic scenario, she will still end up sitting in a bed for a long time before anything significant happens. Edit: also I think we are all overlooking the best part of the post where the husband reveals he wants her to do it a different way because it is more convenient for him as he is the one doing the driving. DamnitGannet fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Nov 8, 2019 |
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Leon Einstein posted:Or that's literally exactly what she said? Sometimes I wonder how many r/r posts are about you.
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So we're going to give these r/ people the benefit of the doubt now? Poppycock!
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TheScott2K posted:"Natural childbirth is The Best" is very real poo poo that is pushed on new mothers unceasingly and it's perfectly fine for her to be like "I want that." It's also perfectly fine for someone to want something important to happen a certain way, regardless of the milestone, and infantilizing them over it is something that weirdly only happens to women. lol what? Have you never heard the term "manchild"? That's its entire purpose. lol what is with this thread and taking things that happen to literally all folks from all walks of life and launching into some "THIS ONLY HAPPENS TO WOMEN" hysterics.
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Barudak posted:We almost made it a week. To avoid a derail, no posts about the music at your wedding Hey Barudak, do you wish you had let us get all this pent up energy out of our system from critiquing each other's musical taste, instead of this?
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Chomp8645 posted:lol what? Have you never heard the term "manchild"? That's its entire purpose. i think Scott is being dumb but you're a loving moron lmfao you're drawing a direct equivalency between a woman having an opinion about her birth plan and the behavior that leads to men being called manchildren
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Nov 8, 2019 20:48
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Chomp8645 posted:lol what? Have you never heard the term "manchild"? That's its entire purpose. To be fair, having natural childbirth pushed on you is definitely a thing that only happens to women and AFAB people. That first doctor I mentioned tried to talk me into the natural childbirth thing even after I explained to her my plans to transition after I finished having kids and how having to push a baby out my cervix was loving with my gender dysphoria but she simply didnt get it because 'but but your vagina was made for this!!!'
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Dazerbeams posted:The mother wants to wait until the very last moment before rushing off to the hospital, emphasis on rushing. Wanting a natural childbirth without induction or epidurals is different from throwing caution to the wind and hoping it all works out okay, also putting a lot of sudden pressure on her spouse. Why not just do a home birth with a doula on hand? Why wait until she's feeling contractions before traveling to where medical professionals are? It's not like women don't die during childbirth due to unexpected complications. Plus the risk of getting into a car accident is way higher when you’re driving in a time-sensitive, high pressure environment when you aren’t used to it. It’s putting other drivers at risk, it’s putting her, her husband, and her child at risk, and it’s all for an “experience” that’s going to be lovely anyway.
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I have no idea what the relevance of manchildren is to this discussion and that’s all I really have to contribute to it
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It must be "bad judgments about haircuts" week AITA: For Getting My Daughter a Haircut? quote:Throwaway AITA for cutting my daughters hair? quote:Throw away because I don’t want Reddit to know that I’m Mormon. Some background information is relevant here. My first wife and I got married way too young. We both grew up Mormon, but she soon started having doubts and left the religion. Even though we were only married for two years we have a daughter together. She ended up leaving the church, I stayed. I have primary custody of my daughter. She only goes to my wife Friday-Sunday every other weekend. Her mother is an artist, so she’s a lot less stable income wise, and lives in a studio apartment. I am remarried and have two other children with my current wife.
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InediblePenguin posted:i think Scott is being dumb but you're a loving moron lmfao you're drawing a direct equivalency between a woman having an opinion about her birth plan and the behavior that leads to men being called manchildren I am drawing a direct equivalency? How? One is a specific event. The other is general concept. The guy said only women get infantilized for being weird and specific about things, which is obviously not true. We've seen a million stories where a dude acts weird because he some preconcuived notion of things or wants to enact something from fantasy into real life and gets roasted as a manchild for it. And rightfully so! It's just not a gender specific thing at all and it's ridiculous to claim it is.
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Chomp8645 posted:I am drawing a direct equivalency? How? One is a specific event. The other is general concept. LMAO Be sure and put this in the manifesto you leave behind when you shoot up a yoga studio someday (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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