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Man, this whole thing makes me feel bad for legitimately enjoying FMA: Brotherhood.
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Hub Cat posted:Nah if it was an actual court order one of the twitter lawyers would have posted it by now. Its probably just a preservation letter, basically the d's lawyers giving them an unfriendly reminder of their duty not to destroy evidence relevant to litigation, probably enumerating the kinds of documents they are interested in, and making sure they know litigation is pending. Hahahah gently caress.  If Vic's mom is getting dragged directly into this, I can only hope it gets worse for him overall. Here's hoping he gets cut off from the ol' family fortune... 
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dwarf74 posted:Man, this whole thing makes me feel bad for legitimately enjoying FMA: Brotherhood. I've never watched either series dubbed, but if it helps you, just think about how he's only one voice actor among a lot of characters. He voiced one of the most important characters, sure, but Mignogna being a creeper tool doesn't invalidate all the work the animators, and other actors put in. Or maybe watching it subbed might help? Sometimes, you can't break away the actor/artist from the art, and that's okay. But I don't think you should feel bad for having liked something, just because one out of many involved turned out to be gross.
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Nov 8, 2019 15:22
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I'll say this; I enjoy the dub for FMA (both series) more than subs and it wasn't even Ed that made it for me. The whole EN cast was awesome and even though I knew Vic was a creeper after getting wind of it on some internet spaces back in middle/high school, the loser wasn't enough to contaminate how good FMA was in general. Like, I'm saying him voicing Ed is not what defines a series that is rich in so many other themes and emotions(as much as the Vic stans want you to believe). Even years later, there are people who bring up FMA fondly and they're usually talking about other aspects of the show.
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Nov 8, 2019 16:27
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dwarf74 posted:Man, this whole thing makes me feel bad for legitimately enjoying FMA: Brotherhood. The sub version still exists, you could enjoy Romi Park instead.
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Wasabi the J posted:Risembool Rangers Of course that's what they're called. Of course.
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I enjoy Fullmetal and greatly enjoyed Vic's performance as Ed. Hell I have enjoyed many of Vic's performances he's a good voice actor in my opinion. Does not excuse his creepy behavior, and the fact he should not get work in the industry again.
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Nov 8, 2019 21:17
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One role of Vic's I was reminded of when I started re-watching a series was Soul Eater, where he plays the father of one of the leads, Spirit. Spirit spends almost all his time being a womanizer and do gross things like only take attendance of female students. His daughter sees right through him and mostly dunks on him. It was the part he was born to play, baby.
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Nov 8, 2019 21:40
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Dawgstar posted:One role of Vic's I was reminded of when I started re-watching a series was Soul Eater, where he plays the father of one of the leads, Spirit. Spirit spends almost all his time being a womanizer and do gross things like only take attendance of female students. His daughter sees right through him and mostly dunks on him. It was the part he was born to play, baby. all this shitbaby behavior is just him getting too deep into rohan kishibe
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Patware posted:all this shitbaby behavior is just him getting too deep into rohan kishibe Method voice acting.
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dwarf74 posted:Man, this whole thing makes me feel bad for legitimately enjoying FMA: Brotherhood. Just think of it as supporting the Author, who from what I can tell is pretty decent. There's a pretty good story in the back of one of the books where she met a neighbor's kid and told her she drew manga, the kid was super happy that she drew manga and was like "Oooh, you must draw a bunch of pretty princesses!" Hiromu said that internally she was like "Nope, just a bunch of sweaty old men."
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Nov 9, 2019 00:04
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if yall would read the manga like god intended you wouldn't have to worry about some dbag ruining one of the greatest action adventure stories of all time for you
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Nov 9, 2019 00:42
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And then read Farm Metal Agriculturalist aka Silver Spoon
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OnimaruXLR posted:if yall would read the manga like god intended you wouldn't have to worry about some dbag ruining one of the greatest action adventure stories of all time for you I mean you say that but Rurouni Kenshin
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I'm watching FMA: B with my girlfriend, who has no anime experience, and we're watching it subbed. I explained that we could watch it dubbed but the actor for the main character is a gross creepy pedophile and I asked her if she was ok with subtitles and she said yeah. She's enjoying the show a lot. We finished episode 28 last night.
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Nov 9, 2019 03:24
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Hub Cat posted:Nah if it was an actual court order one of the twitter lawyers would have posted it by now. Its probably just a preservation letter, basically the d's lawyers giving them an unfriendly reminder of their duty not to destroy evidence relevant to litigation, probably enumerating the kinds of documents they are interested in, and making sure they know litigation is pending. A least one or more of those people are totally gonna try and destroy evidence.
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I think at this point Lemoine is fighting himself in 11th dimensional chess, there was a hearing today Sounds like Chupp is sick of everyone's poo poo Ty is definitely sidelined Denied deposing Slatosch Denied Beard's Sanction motion Told Beard team to fix their poo poo with the appeal All but said he was willing to sanction Beard based on his frivolous filings https://twitter.com/Sean_P_Hassan/status/1192956506704109568?s=20 Hub Cat fucked around with this message at 06:37 on Nov 9, 2019 |
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Nov 9, 2019 06:00
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the transcript for yesterday's hearing has been funded, not via gfm though: https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1192995283464052736 next hearing is the 21st for sanctions, expect comedy then
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Nov 9, 2019 10:38
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Watching the dub isn’t really supporting in any real sense as they don’t sell them individually so if you support one you are supporting the other
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Nov 9, 2019 19:59
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Is vic still collecting royalties on fma or something? I'd think the reason to not watch the dub is just being repulsed by the knowledge that you're listening to the voice of a rapist, not any concern with where your money is headed
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Nov 9, 2019 20:18
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He did FMA as a contractor so there's no royalties involved.
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Nov 9, 2019 20:22
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Ignis posted:He did FMA as a contractor so there's no royalties involved. There's no residuals for voicing the main character in a popular anime? Like, almost everyone with a speaking part in Twilight or whatever is still collecting checks from that.
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Nov 9, 2019 20:29
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Skwirl posted:There's no residuals for voicing the main character in a popular anime? Like, almost everyone with a speaking part in Twilight or whatever is still collecting checks from that. Typically, no. VA work for anime is one of the worst paying fields in the entertainment industry.
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Nov 9, 2019 20:32
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remember how there was a whole huge voice actor strike a while back there was a reason
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Nov 9, 2019 20:33
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Anime VA work is notoriously low paying, and I think Vic is non-union as well.
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Nov 9, 2019 20:36
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Long story short: worker's rights in America is a joke and, until the workers unite into a unit and dethrone the capitalist overlords, the horrors of capitalist oppression will continue to seep from every pour of our diseased society.
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Nov 9, 2019 20:37
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I was told by a few VAs some years ago that there are almost no VAs that don't have second jobs.
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Nov 9, 2019 20:42
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What's worse is Texas is a non-union state (or 'right to work' as it's delightfully called) so the Voice Actors Guild doesn't have any sway there. There's certainly going to be nothing like residuals. And Takoluka is right, if you want a job as a voice actor you either move to LA where you are always on the hustle for the next gig and really your job is auditioning more than acting or you're in Texas where you do something else. It's why Sabat opened his own studio and other folks also do script writing and directing and such.
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Nov 9, 2019 20:46
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Right to Work needs to be repealed, if we're going to be honest. It's not surprising but horrifying how workers not only lack representation but are explicitly forbidden from seeking it out.
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Nov 9, 2019 20:48
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Covok posted:Right to Work needs to be repealed, if we're going to be honest. It's not surprising but horrifying how workers not only lack representation but are explicitly forbidden from seeking it out. That's not what RtW does. It doesn't forbid workers from seeking representation. It just says that if you're part of a collective bargaining unit, you can't be required to pay for representation - basically you don't have to pay dues. It's still lovely because the explicit purpose is to starve out unions. Without dues money, it's harder for unions to be political players, and it adversely affects how much staff the local can hire for representation or keep money in the coffers for various other functions. e: well, that's how it works in my state anyway, it might be different elsewhere Skypie fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Nov 9, 2019 |
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Nov 9, 2019 21:33
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Skypie posted:That's not what RtW does. It doesn't forbid workers from seeking representation. It just says that if you're part of a collective bargaining unit, you can't be required to pay for representation - basically you don't have to pay dues. It's still lovely because the explicit purpose is to starve out unions. Without dues money, it's harder for unions to be political players, and it adversely affects how much staff the local can hire for representation or keep money in the coffers for various other functions. Nah that’s how it works. Capital figured out explicit banning was pointless so they went with more indirect methods
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Nov 9, 2019 21:39
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Skypie posted:That's not what RtW does. It doesn't forbid workers from seeking representation. It just says that if you're part of a collective bargaining unit, you can't be required to pay for representation - basically you don't have to pay dues. It's still lovely because the explicit purpose is to starve out unions. Without dues money, it's harder for unions to be political players, and it adversely affects how much staff the local can hire for representation or keep money in the coffers for various other functions. I mean, I know, but I'm cutting to the chase and jumping around the rhteroical "Whataboutism" that is usually used to mask the law's intentions.
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https://twitter.com/wqsaves/status/1193213723164446722
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Nov 9, 2019 22:20
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What does this have to do with anything?
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Nov 9, 2019 22:28
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Covok posted:What does this have to do with anything? Yeti Cup is a bracket to determine the worst pro-Vic tweets
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Skwirl posted:There's no residuals for voicing the main character in a popular anime? Like, almost everyone with a speaking part in Twilight or whatever is still collecting checks from that. That’s because they’re members of the Screen Actor’s Guild and the Guild negotiates residual rates. (And works to break “Hollywood accounting” that makes possible claims like “Return of the Jedi hasn’t made money yet, so no residuals.”) In other words, unions good, despite the fact that some people who turn out to be lovely will be seeing money from work they did a long time ago.
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Nov 9, 2019 22:46
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I still laugh at that Yakuza tweet, same with the guy advising to throw a tantrum to change the verdict.
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Nov 9, 2019 22:49
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Tribladeofchaos posted:I still laugh at that Yakuza tweet, same with the guy advising to throw a tantrum to change the verdict. Excuse me, I AM REALITY
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Tribladeofchaos posted:I still laugh at that Yakuza tweet, same with the guy advising to throw a tantrum to change the verdict. It's also a delight somebody actually told Chupp while they were passing the Bar he was mastering the blade.
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lmao I forget sometimes how dog poo poo stupid those people are. "I AM reality!" I love it.
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