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LifeLynx posted:Is there any proof that the financial decision makers at Hasbro/WotC are hurting over this Oko business, or any bad decision WotC has made this year? I don't see anyone boycotting or quitting Magic. Not sure if I'm being overly cynical about things changing for the better.
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LifeLynx posted:Is there any proof that the financial decision makers at Hasbro/WotC are hurting over this Oko business, or any bad decision WotC has made this year? I don't see anyone boycotting or quitting Magic. Not sure if I'm being overly cynical about things changing for the better. They are very aware of tournament attendance and cannot possibly be happy at two major Standard events turning into Pioneer at short notice - and getting positive player feedback from it. That's just absurd; after many years of running events for grinders, I was shocked anyone would change a major tournament format with such short notice, and even more shocked that the players were happy about it. Standard has to be reviled for players to be happy that their testing is thrown out the window. And they certainly know Standard attendance is really important to their pack sales - only Standard and Draft events count for our engaged player count as WPN stores, for example, which is an important metric. So they're going to be aware of and care that Standard is bad, and I'd be shocked if they didn't ban multiple cards on the 18th to try to fix it.
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Nov 8, 2019 22:46
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Brownhat posted:That's only Pioneer. welp 
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Untap is a really great site to use if you like getting called a slur every time you play a counter.
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WOTC is doing everything they can to not show oko on camera.
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Sickening posted:WOTC is doing everything they can to not show oko on camera. Gonna be real hard to keep up as the weekend goes on. https://twitter.com/rileyquarytower/status/1192900307686166528
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Cactrot posted:Gonna be real hard to keep up as the weekend goes on. We are going to see folks with losing records before they show an oko mirror.
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Nov 8, 2019 23:03
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The okocalypse
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Is the event with the playtest cards this weekend or is it next weekend? Knowing wotc it probably wont get streamed at all.
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Nov 8, 2019 23:11
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mossyfisk posted:Could you actually short magic cards? Afaik not in paper. It was really more "Will Oko be banned and would you (theoretically) put your money where your mouth is?" Though I'm sure some mtgfinance dudes could be talked into facilitating if you really wanted.
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Nov 8, 2019 23:23
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Bugsy posted:Is the event with the playtest cards this weekend or is it next weekend? lol the first event was yesterday, and it won't get video coverage at all because there's no way for them to actually show the cards with their current technological setup.
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Nov 8, 2019 23:37
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Hellsau posted:lol the first event was yesterday, and it won't get video coverage at all because there's no way for them to actually show the cards with their current technological setup. what in the ever loving gently caress wizards
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Bugsy posted:what in the ever loving gently caress wizards well as soon as you figure out a way to show cards on a video stream let wizards know. im making this post from 2001, shortly before the pocket cam was invented.
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Nov 8, 2019 23:54
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rkajdi posted:This is sad but understandable. I'm eyeing my exit from Modern right now, because if it becomes the new Legacy that only gets to fire once a month or less I'll just go with Pioneer as my preferred format. Fetches are already down a bit off their peak, with the only reason I can think of being their eternal support is softening a bit. I know myself and my playgroup have went from absolutely loving modern starting in ~2013 into none of us having any desire to play the past couple years. Especially with the string of broken cards that have come out of sets this year. Pioneer will probably be great soon as they get through the initial ban waves and it's somewhat safe to buy into whatever deck you want.
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You don't get to create a toxic format and then complain that people call you out on it during coverage. If you're gonna leave it be, own up to it and show it.
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moush posted:You don't get to create a toxic format and then complain that people call you out on it during coverage. If you're gonna leave it be, own up to it and show it. They almost always show less represented decks day 1 because they know they don't get a choice days 2 and 3. They're showing the non-Oko stuff now because they know they'll spend the next two days of constructed play showing infinite Okos.
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Bust Rodd posted:Yeah I mean we’ve been kind of braying about it for a while but this might be the worst Standard... ever Spoken like someone who wasn't playing during Masques standard
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909 md grasp, 514 md gust, 142 md dispute, 90 md veil. All but Mystical Dispute are in the 20 most played cards overall (md + sb). Dispute is #21.
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Bugsy posted:what in the ever loving gently caress wizards 
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:Spoken like someone who wasn't playing during Masques standard Masques Block was actually more lopsided than this standard, you're right. Masques Standard, both Urzas/Masques and Masques/Invasion, were tremendously more diverse.
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I'd bet an entire dollar that a ban will either happen or be strongly insinuated to be a guarantee by a #wotcstaff on Twitter within the next 72 hours Edit: Masques-Invasion was my very first standard format and it was Very Good sit on my Facebook fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Nov 9, 2019 |
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Hellsau posted:Masques Block was actually more lopsided than this standard, you're right. Masques Standard, both Urzas/Masques and Masques/Invasion, were tremendously more diverse. masuqes/invasion blue skies was the best bad deck
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Nov 9, 2019 00:45
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Is it worth trying to build a deck around x costed spells if I have Tron lands and zero other parts of a tron deck? Like walking ballistas, that x costed creature from eldraine and hydras and whatever?
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i think my favorite bad standard ever was when crop rotation was run specifically to counter tolarian academy
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Cactrot posted:Gonna be real hard to keep up as the weekend goes on. I wouldnt even waste the resources streaming this event if I was WoTC
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Hellsau posted:Masques Block was actually more lopsided than this standard, you're right. Masques Standard, both Urzas/Masques and Masques/Invasion, were tremendously more diverse. PT NY (Masques, Nemesis) had 43% rebels day one, and Worlds 2000 was reasonably diverse in the full block constructed.
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While I sympathize has tournaments ever let you play cards that have personal messages on them? Could be distracting to your opponent etc? Want to say that during an interview sure I’ll back you up there.
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Koirhor posted:While I sympathize has tournaments ever let you play cards that have personal messages on them? Could be distracting to your opponent etc? Want to say that during an interview sure I’ll back you up there. I can't find a rule that would keep these from being played in game. If they aren't against the rules, you better have a loving amazing reason to remove them.
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Sickening posted:I can't find a rule that would keep these from being played in game. If they aren't against the rules, you better have a loving amazing reason to remove them. Fair enough if they don’t break the rules judges kinda hosed up
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:Spoken like someone who wasn't playing during Masques standard Combo winter and black summer were unironically more healthy formats than this current standard. 
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Sickening posted:I can't find a rule that would keep these from being played in game. If they aren't against the rules, you better have a loving amazing reason to remove them. it could be a clause ala Blizzard's recent Hearthstone punishments wrt "inciting statements" or whatever it was. Autumn could end up on camera with the lands in play, but I love that they posted about it though.
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Nov 9, 2019 01:48
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80s James Hetfield posted:I wouldnt even waste the resources streaming this event if I was WoTC they should have loving banned Oko on the 21st instead of allowing this to happen
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Big yikes, those are legal alters and they're not breaking any rules
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I want to see any one of you people claiming that "the rules" allow those cards to quote the exact rule you think says that.
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Toshimo posted:I want to see any one of you people claiming that "the rules" allow those cards to quote the exact rule you think says that. Wouldn't it be assumed they're allowed unless there's a rule that says otherwise?
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Toshimo posted:I want to see any one of you people claiming that "the rules" allow those cards to quote the exact rule you think says that. Are you not allowed to alter cards as you please so long as the vital information is still intact?
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quote:Players may use any Authorized Game Cards from Magic: The Gathering expansions, core sets, special sets, quote:The Head Judge is the final authority on acceptable cards for a tournament. Now, there's going to be variance between judges but, in the end, they are absolutely able to tell you what you can and can't have.
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Here's some more helpful tips about alters: https://blogs.magicjudges.org/rulestips/2013/06/tournament-tuesday-card-alters-and-you/
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