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Combat Pretzel posted:Likely. Just slightly miffled about the cost difference between new 16C and the 24C TR. Expected the 3950X to drag the rest a bit down, too. I'm probably still gonna get a 24C, just later than planned. Yeah, I was hoping the earlier guesses about the 24C being closer to $1k were true. I just can't justify spending nearly double for 8 additional cores, especially with the likely difference in motherboard prices.
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Intel indirectly stated that they don't expect to be competitive until 2023 so naturally AMD will take advantage of that situation. Expect price hikes, socket changes, the whole shebang. It's on our best interest for both companies to stay competitive in the consumer segments.  article posted:Intel alluded to pricing pressure from AMD during its last earnings call, saying it would impact the average selling prices of its chips and would result in lowered margins. Further, Intel CFO George Davis implied during an interview with Barron's this week that the company is digging in its heels for the long haul, saying "What we’ve said though, the delay in 10 nanometer means that we’re going to be a little bit disadvantaged on unit cost for a period of time." Davis then noted the company expects to return to 'very strong' revenue growth and margin expansion in 2023 as it overcomes the late ramp to 10nm. As a result, it's rational to expect lower pricing on Intel's upcoming 10th-Gen Comet Lake processors, too.
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iospace posted:Maybe if you want to drop an Epyc processor in there? Yes please 
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So when will motherboard info and reviews start dropping? I’m hoping to take advantage of as many Black Friday sales as possible to build a new Threadripper box sometime this spring. I’m thinking I should probably start picking up the secondary components such as case, power supply, etc. later this month and maybe waiting until around tax season for the motherboard, processor, GFX card, etc.
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AMD pushed the board and cpu embargo to 11/25, apparently. e: Actually that might be a bad assumption on my part, they have pushed availability to 11/25. The old roadmap had availability and review embargo on the same days (boooo!), but I haven't specifically heard if review embargo moved as well. Cygni fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Nov 7, 2019 |
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I already have the 2990wx, I was really hoping for a 64C 3990wx 
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Combat Pretzel posted:The slides mention sTRX4 as a new socket for "scalability". What does that mean, anyway? It's kind of implied that it's deprecated again in two generations (with Zen4/DDR5). According to Gamersnexus, according to AMD, it's because there are now 8 downstream and 8 upstream PCIe lanes in/out of the CPU. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxqPAPkGe70&t=483s
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So first platform update in 5 years is coming up shortly.. am on a very strict budget of Ł300 or so. Going for: Ryzen 3 3200G CM Hyper 212 Black 16GB 3200Mhz RAM 250GB M2 NVME SSD B450M motherboard(Asus probably..) Replacing: FX 6350 Some budget 120mm AIO water cooler I cant remember the name of. 16GB RAM 120GB SATA SSD Asus 970 Pro Gaming Aura Transferring from AM3 to AM4 system: AMD RX570 8GB Also Case ,PSU, 1TB HD will be coming over. Thoughts/comments anyone ?
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I think you'd be better off cutting corners elsewhere (eg the cooler) to fit a 2600 in there instead of the 3200G.
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Llamadeus posted:I think you'd be better off cutting corners elsewhere (eg the cooler) to fit a 2600 in there instead of the 3200G. I don't think I could cut anything else down more then I have tbh, the 212 is by all accounts still the best value cooler out there that is an improvement over the stock and I cant see any other place I could compromise and save enough to justify that compromise.
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gradenko_2000 posted:if you already have the discrete GPU why are you getting an APU Because there is not a non APU Ryzen 3rd gen at my CPU budget (Ł100 or less) .. unless I am missing something ? EDIT: I am not, the price different between the R3 3200G and the "next step up" w/o onboard GPU R5 3600 is Ł90+ and there is no way I can fit that in budget. mfny fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Nov 7, 2019 |
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mfny posted:I don't think I could cut anything else down more then I have tbh, the 212 is by all accounts still the best value cooler out there that is an improvement over the stock and I cant see any other place I could compromise and save enough to justify that compromise. You're on an ultrabudget and wasting money on a cooler instead of buying a CPU worth cooling. It's foolish.
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mfny posted:Because there is not a non APU Ryzen 3rd gen at my CPU budget (Ł100 or less) .. unless I am missing something ? The APUs are not really 3rd gen sadly. 2nd gen CPU and a handful of Vega graphics cores that are too much for desktop use and not enough for gaming. You are much better off with a 2600 on clearance sale and a used Pascal card.
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I will look at the 2600 then it seems, see if I can squeeze that in..
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The 2600 is 37% off on Amazon for some reason, which brings it to Ł110. e: b
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sauer kraut posted:The APUs are not really 3rd gen sadly. 2nd gen CPU and a handful of Vega graphics cores that are too much for desktop use and not enough for gaming. The RX570 I have works just fine in everything on at least High/1080p settings even on this creaky AM3 system so why would I change GPU ?
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Use case? Dunno what SSD prices are like in britland, but NVMe doesn't offer much for consumer workloads, deffo not anything you'd doing with a drive that small. If you can save any money with a SATA based drive I'd do it, M.2 or otherwise.
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ItBreathes posted:Use case? SSD prices here are such that the price difference between NVME and SATA 3 is a non issue (+- Ł10 at a glance) Primary use is Music Production/DJing, Secondary being Gaming. A little development stuff going on to..
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mfny posted:The RX570 I have works just fine in everything on at least High/1080p settings even on this creaky AM3 system so why would I change GPU ? Oh you have a decent gpu, nevermind that then
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ratbert90 posted:I already have the 2990wx, I was really hoping for a 64C 3990wx “WX” as a concept is going away since you don’t have NUMA configuration as a way to segment them from the Epyc lineup anymore (not that it made a huge difference at least on Linux). The new WX are going to have more memory lanes I think, but that just leaves core count as a distinguishing factor. 64C TR 3000 would just be a cheaper high-clocked Epyc. edit: I guess registered DIMMs would be another. Epyc gets the capability to go to TBs of RAM while unregistered limits TR to like 128GB or 256GB.
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Picked up a 1900 for $100 on ebay for a dedicated triple GPU rackmount folding at home machine. Promptly realized how expensive mobos and how rare compatible coolers are :egg on face: especially for something that's going into the rack and will never be seen by anyone except my super nerd friends. Was an easy install, though, and has been rock solid. Currently running a P2000 and 1070ti, going to add another 1080 here shortly which should put it above 2.5 million PPD. New AMD announcements are interesting, but I still don't know if they're enough to get me to retire my Skylake-S, mostly because I will then have no use for it. Maybe I could turn it into a HTPC since my MacPro can't push 4k? But my mobo for that is full ATX...decisions... e: ^ yeah, Paul, going above 32GB DIMMs non-registered is "probably fine" for most non-server applications but, honestly, probably cheaper to be able to get denser registered DIMMs because who the hell is buying 32GB DIMMs that aren't registered lol Crunchy Black fucked around with this message at 10:34 on Nov 8, 2019 |
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The images of Asus' TRX40 mainboards look like they still have these idiotic blocks of aluminium instead of proper finned heatsinks like the competition. What the gently caress, Asus? --edit: Oh wait, Asrock goes with some hybrid ones involving active cooling with fans. --edit: Only MSI and Gigabyte have proper finned heatsinks. :| Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Nov 8, 2019 |
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ratbert90 posted:No 64C/128T 3990X? Fail and pass. NewFatMike posted:Re-energized about the prospect of dropping in a 3950X into by B350 Mobo. Apparently the 3900X works in it, so hopefully that'll be no different.  quote:MSI clearly didn’t reckon on some of the hawk-eyed spotters at Wccftech noticing something curious in the manufacturer’s Creator TRX40 promo clip. A subtle slip may have just given away the existence of another Threadripper processor right after AMD just completed the unveiling of the 3rd Gen Ryzen Threadripper 3960X and the Threadripper 3970X. A 64-core giant has long been rumored to be on the cards, and it looks like the flagship SKU has now been confirmed. https://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-b...r.442132.0.html SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 11:02 on Nov 9, 2019 |
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Has science gone too far?
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MSI X570 MGP Gaming Edge Wifi board here, I upgraded to the newest BIOS and tried that 1usmus power profile and it actually hurt my performance, ended up going back to the July BIOS I was using. hosed up.
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:MSI X570 MGP Gaming Edge Wifi board here, I upgraded to the newest BIOS and tried that 1usmus power profile and it actually hurt my performance, ended up going back to the July BIOS I was using. hosed up. Not sure the naming convention for MSI BIOS but you can scroll down here for the latest that have come out for the past few days. Though really the 1.0.0.4B has been a pretty big shitshow so hold off and get some views off the various subreddits and forums.
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Nice, thank you!
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:Nice, thank you!
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:Has science gone too far? this is madness!
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There's an (placeholder?) Amazon listing for the MSI TRX40 Pro Wifi, for 460€, marked as "Sold and Shipped by Amazon". A bit cheaper than anticipated, with what speculations of the 600€ price range. https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0815BB1M8
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So when does the embargo lift so we actually get to see benchmarks on the 3950x and the new Threadrippers? I’m getting antsy to start designing a new machine and I’m getting itchy jonesing for information.
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Oh lord. I will buy this day 1. Inject it straight into my veins. More physical cores than ram in my first PC. Almost more threads than hard drive space as well.
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ratbert90 posted:Oh lord. I will buy this day 1. Inject it straight into my veins. Your first PC had less than 64 bits of memory?
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KillHour posted:Your first PC had less than 64 bits of memory? I should have said ”more cores than megs of memory”
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