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CubanMissile
Apr 22, 2003

Of Hulks and Spider-Men

Saagonsa posted:

Oh yeah he absolutely shouldn't have done it, for his own sake. Dude is going to get hosed hard. Doesn't make what he did morally bad though like some people seemed to be saying.

I don't know. I just can't say that level of violence over a slur is morally right. I just can't do it. I'm not gonna say I sympathize with her because if you drop words like that, you got something coming to you. But there's a difference between getting hit and getting smacked on the pavement hard enough to break that many bones. I doubt he meant to do anywhere near that kind of damage, but if you're strong enough to pick someone up that easily and slam them down, you gotta be more careful. A woman that age isn't just gonna bounce and walk away.

CubanMissile fucked around with this message at 13:55 on Nov 10, 2019

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Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

https://mobile.twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/1193504595131191296

But the families will still vote for Trump

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

CubanMissile posted:

If you believe breaking a bunch of bones is an appropriate response to a lovely boomer saying awful things, then that's your business. I'm not going to agree with it.


She can sue Popeye's. And they'll pay it. She hasn't learned poo poo other that to play the victim and take zero responsibility for what she did.

You're posting like her hair got messed up. She's looking at months of rehabilitation. Money ain't going to speed that up or make that any less painful or make her go, "gee let's go through this again".


The only thing that sucks about this is the US justice system is going to come down hard on this guy.

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

oxsnard posted:

Watch a white woman in Tennessee get absolutely wrecked for calling a Popeyes employee the N-word

https://abc13.com/5686709

Non dumb ad riddled source
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70IlSBvQSXw

Where are all the righties crying about responsibility? You did something wrong so now you get the results.

Oh, right, they're the ones that think the n-word is perfectly fine and the white lady did no wrong.

oxsnard
Oct 8, 2003
Yeah old lady got hosed up, her mobility for the rest of her life is going to be worse; she's looking at months or years of pain. And I'm not sure what you guys are arguing about. He was out of line, regardless of her race/gender/age but that lady was begging to get hurt. There are no winners

CubanMissile
Apr 22, 2003

Of Hulks and Spider-Men

OhFunny posted:

You're posting like her hair got messed up. She's looking at months of rehabilitation. Money ain't going to speed that up or make that any less painful or make her go, "gee let's go through this again".


The only thing that sucks about this is the US justice system is going to come down hard on this guy.

I'm not arguing she's not gonna be in major pain for a long time. I'm arguing that she's gonna make a ton of money out of this and getting hurt is not gonna make her one bit less racist or make her believe she even did anything wrong. She's already claiming she didn't use the N word, which I'm sure she most certainly did. Great, she's not gonna call people racist poo poo in public anymore. That lesson isn't worth this guy screwing up his life over.

oxsnard
Oct 8, 2003
Sorry for the grim topic. Here's a very pro click palate cleanser

https://www.wsj.com/articles/whats-cuter-than-a-baby-cheetah-a-baby-cheetah-with-its-puppy-pal-11561732229

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

CubanMissile posted:

How bout don’t beat up on people too weak to defend themselves? If a thirteen year old kid talks poo poo should I kick him in the stomach so he can learn a lesson?

A 13 year old talking poo poo is a failure of their parents. A 50 year old woman should loving know better

CubanMissile
Apr 22, 2003

Of Hulks and Spider-Men

SocketWrench posted:

A 13 year old talking poo poo is a failure of their parents. A 50 year old woman should loving know better

Yes, it was a dumb example.

ManBoyChef
Aug 1, 2019

Deadbeat Dad



Paradoxish posted:

My girlfriend works as an ESL teacher in a city-run/state-funded adult education program. The administrative staff is mostly made up of people well beyond typical retirement age, almost all of whom have exceptionally good salaries with unbelievable pensions attached. Lots of them are finally starting to check out since they're 5-10 years beyond the age that they could have theoretically retired at. A bunch of the younger teachers were chomping at the bit for these administrative roles.

What's actually happening? They're creating new positions which consolidate the duties of two, or in some cases three, of the roles which have now been vacated. These positions are also being paid a fraction of the previous salaries. And when I say a "fraction," I mean that multiple six-figure jobs have turned into a single position that might pay $40k/year. Also those positions are going to new, very young hires who won't complain about it.

This is why I'm not even looking forward to the wave of boomer retirements. Those incredible positions aren't coming down to anyone else, they're going to float away into the aether.

This is something I have been thinking about too. I am a chef. I have worked in restaurants for about twenty years. What I have noticed is that they are cutting cooks and dishwashers and just having their best people do the work of two people for the same price. This is very common at chain restaurants. A good example is at Ruby Tuesdays. There used to be a salad bar position in which you stock and keep the salad bar cleaned as well as prep the items for the salad bar. There was also a dish washer position. Now they have combined the two positions so that the dishwasher is also doing the salad bar. Now that person is constantly running and always behind. If you have ever worked in a restaurant that doesn't feel to good. The position still pays ~8 p/h.

I could imagine them doing this in all professions.

ManBoyChef fucked around with this message at 14:33 on Nov 10, 2019

Slowpoke!
Feb 12, 2008

ANIME IS FOR ADULTS

Shouldn’t have bought that bigger tractor

CubanMissile
Apr 22, 2003

Of Hulks and Spider-Men

ManBoyChef posted:

This is something I have been thinking about too. I am a chef. I have worked in restaurants for about twenty years. What I have noticed is that they are cutting cooks and dishwashers and just having their best people do the work of two people for the same price. This is very common at chain restaurants. A good example is at Ruby Tuesdays. There used to be a salad bar position in which you stock and keep the salad bar cleaned as well as prep the items for the salad bar. There was also a dish washer position. Now they have combined the two positions so that the dishwasher is also doing the salad bar. The position still pays ~8 p/h.

I could imagine them doing this in all professions.

Yeah, most companies now are just a game with middle managers playing Jenga with employees for bonuses. Normally the person who removed the last piece that made the tower fall would be the loser, except in this game everyone just blames the pieces.

Cheesus
Oct 17, 2002

Let us retract the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wirebrush of enlightenment.
Yam Slacker

AsInHowe posted:

Okay, here's something I can explain!

College football is inherently bizarre, with five major conferences, five minor conferences, and independent teams like Notre Dame going after a national championship via a four-team playoff.
Was Bill Watterson ever on record as this being an inspiration for Calvinball?

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

CubanMissile posted:

I'm not arguing she's not gonna be in major pain for a long time. I'm arguing that she's gonna make a ton of money out of this and getting hurt is not gonna make her one bit less racist or make her believe she even did anything wrong.

Ok

I doubt that was his goal. People have motivations other than winning at debate club and changing hearts and minds or whatever the gently caress you're complaining about. Sometimes people do things because they're pissed off, and not because they're hoping for a happy after school special ending where everyone learns and grows.

VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 14:24 on Nov 10, 2019

Amniotic
Jan 23, 2008

Dignity and an empty sack is worth the sack.

Just think about how many adjuncts you can get for the salary and benefits of one full prof.

CubanMissile
Apr 22, 2003

Of Hulks and Spider-Men

VitalSigns posted:

Ok

I doubt that was his goal. People have motivations other than winning at debate club and changing hearts and minds or whatever the gently caress.

Well then clearly you didn't read the nuances of HBN's post. :colbert:

oxsnard
Oct 8, 2003

Amniotic posted:

Just think about how many adjuncts you can get for the salary and benefits of one full prof.

I was looking at public record databases a few months back and I was shocked to see that adjunct professor salaries have barely budged since '06. Still not sure where all the extra tuition money is going

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*


And they will still vote TRUMP

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>
I'm 100% not kidding that many people legitimately have traumatic events re-triggered by hearing slurs and if someone got slammed into the concrete I think it's more likely the dude was reliving some past poo poo and not seeing the woman in front of him. Which, is unfortunate for her, sure, but idk 'don't throw slurs around' is and 'dont keep throwing slurs around after a bunch of people tell you repeatedly in a variety of ways to quit' and 'dont still keep going even as they escort your racist old rear end out' are all pretty elemental things

CubanMissile posted:

Well then clearly you didn't read the nuances of HBN's post. :colbert:

To be fair, 'don't use slurs and you won't get your face smashed into the concrete for using slurs' is a pretty complicated message that can be taken in a multitude of ways

oxsnard
Oct 8, 2003

WoodrowSkillson posted:

And they will still vote TRUMP

I'm convinced these people can become Sanders supporters under the right scenario

tokyo reject
Jun 12, 2019

when she's tryin to slide into your dm's but you wanna talk about a better america

Was confused here for a sec if we were talking about dipshit racists or Glen Greenwald. gently caress ‘em both tbh

CubanMissile
Apr 22, 2003

Of Hulks and Spider-Men

Herstory Begins Now posted:

I'm 100% not kidding that many people legitimately have traumatic events re-triggered by hearing slurs and if someone got slammed into the concrete I think it's more likely the dude was reliving some past poo poo and not seeing the woman in front of him. Which, is unfortunate for her, sure, but idk 'don't throw slurs around' is and 'dont keep throwing slurs around after a bunch of people tell you repeatedly in a variety of ways to quit' and 'dont still keep going even as they escort your racist old rear end out' are all pretty elemental things


To be fair, 'don't use slurs and you won't get your face smashed into the concrete for using slurs' is a pretty complicated message that can be taken in a multitude of ways

It's not that I disagree with you. It's that my equally uncomplicated message is "When someone calls you a name, even if it's the worst loving name possible, hospitalizing thier frail asses isn't the best, smartest move."

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>

CubanMissile posted:

It's not that I disagree with you. It's that my equally uncomplicated message is "When someone calls you a name, even if it's the worst loving name possible, hospitalizing thier frail asses isn't the best, smartest move."

I'm guessing you've never dealt with people in the midst of severe ptsd episodes

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009


Dogs aren't stupid, they just put all their points into CHA.

Seriously, is there anything they won't pack-bond with? Could you, like, raise a dog and an octopus together?

ManBoyChef
Aug 1, 2019

Deadbeat Dad



oxsnard posted:

I'm convinced these people can become Sanders supporters under the right scenario

I dunno man. Most of these people are too far gone. Basically they have been indoctrinated into being a right wing moron from a young age. Those kids might have a chance because they don't have the dad telling them democrats are evil and kill babies anymore. Its the same thing with evangelism. They force you into it young so that you believe all of it with your whole being. They konw you want question it because at that point your whole identity is wrapped up in it.

We need to get the people that are too disaffected to vote to go out and vote. We do this by making sure people like Clinton, Biden, and Buttigieg don't get the nomination because their corporate policies are why the people don't vote anymore. They haven't been given an option worth voting for in decades. Like me, they have watched their situations get harder and harder while corporations make more and more profits. I don't know how we get these people to vote considering if you are on the right you have 24/h propaganda going through your ears and if you are center or left you have MSNBC and CNN hitting you with neo liberal propaganda. The rich elites basically pick the choices you have so they win no matter who wins.

What do you think we can do to counteract the MSM? What do we do that most local news is owned by Sinclair media? That is what we need to do to reach people that are so fed up with neo liberalism and third way bullshit.

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

oxsnard posted:

I was looking at public record databases a few months back and I was shocked to see that adjunct professor salaries have barely budged since '06. Still not sure where all the extra tuition money is going

Making up for slashes to government education funding mostly.

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>
lol that people always come out of the woodwork to cry some loving tears and 'won't someone think of the poor loving racist who ignored 10 minutes of people pleading with them to please cut it out'

I just feel bad for that dude because I 1000% guarantee you the literal last thing he wanted to do going in to work that day was have to gently caress up some woman

tokyo reject
Jun 12, 2019

when she's tryin to slide into your dm's but you wanna talk about a better america

WoodrowSkillson posted:

And they will still vote TRUMP

elections have consequences

oxsnard
Oct 8, 2003

ManBoyChef posted:

I dunno man. Most of these people are too far gone. Basically they have been indoctrinated into being a right wing moron from a young age. Those kids might have a chance because they don't have the dad telling them democrats are evil and kill babies anymore. Its the same thing with evangelism. They force you into it young so that you believe all of it with your whole being. They konw you want question it because at that point your whole identity is wrapped up in it.

We need to get the people that are too disaffected to vote to go out and vote. We do this by making sure people like Clinton, Biden, and Buttigieg don't get the nomination because their corporate policies are why the people don't vote anymore. They haven't been given an option worth voting for in decades. Like me, they have watched their situations get harder and harder while corporations make more and more profits. I don't know how we get these people to vote considering if you are on the right you have 24/h propaganda going through your ears and if you are center or left you have MSNBC and CNN hitting you with neo liberal propaganda. The rich elites basically pick the choices you have so they win no matter who wins.

What do you think we can do to counteract the MSM? What do we do that most local news is owned by Sinclair media? That is what we need to do to reach people that are so fed up with neo liberalism and third way bullshit.


You might be right

https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2019/10/10/768635489/farmers-sticking-by-trump-even-as-trade-wars-bite

I'm sure this has been posted in here last month, but this is seriously insane. My favorite:

quote:

But, Ulrich is not mad at Trump. He loves Trump's hands-off approach to environmental regulations.

Fertilizer run-off from farmers is the single biggest threat to the nation's waterways. Oh and btw, the Trump EPA hasn't rolled back a single Clean Water Act rule. Meanwhile, Kansas, Nebraska and Iowa state regulators (who have delegated authority from EPA) have increased their enforcement efforts over the past 3 years

CubanMissile
Apr 22, 2003

Of Hulks and Spider-Men

Herstory Begins Now posted:

I'm guessing you've never dealt with people in the midst of severe ptsd episodes

About three weeks again the hotel I worked at had a event the convention space for an organization that helps veterans returning from war reintegrate into being at home. Afterwards some of the people there went to the bar I worked at to have a few drinks and catch up with each other. One guy had a few too many and was getting aggressive so I politely told him that I'm sorry I can't serve him any more. So he threw a rocks glass at me. His buddies dragged him out and then his wife yelled at me because apparently this guy suffered bad PTSD. Not sure what she wanted me to do, but if you have bad enough PTSD that you can't control yourself, you need professional help and not people handwaving away your actions.

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

Herstory Begins Now posted:

lol that people always come out of the woodwork to cry some loving tears and 'won't someone think of the poor loving racist who ignored 10 minutes of people pleading with them to please cut it out'

I just feel bad for that dude because I 1000% guarantee you the literal last thing he wanted to do going in to work that day was have to gently caress up some woman

He deserves acquittal due to justified self defense against emotional violence.

More like a death sentence because it's Tennessee

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>

CubanMissile posted:

About three weeks again the hotel I worked at had a event the convention space for an organization that helps veterans returning from war reintegrate into being at home. Afterwards some of the people there went to the bar I worked at to have a few drinks and catch up with each other. One guy had a few too many and was getting aggressive so I politely told him that I'm sorry I can't serve him any more. So he threw a rocks glass at me. His buddies dragged him out and then his wife yelled at me because apparently this guy suffered bad PTSD. Not sure what she wanted me to do, but if you have bad enough PTSD that you can't control yourself, you need professional help and not people handwaving away your actions.

lol that you think posting your encounter with an rear end in a top hat who you overserved who may or may not have had ptsd that definitely is comparable to this situation

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

I don't have an ounce of sympathy for that woman.

CubanMissile
Apr 22, 2003

Of Hulks and Spider-Men

Herstory Begins Now posted:

lol that you think posting your encounter with an rear end in a top hat who you overserved who may or may not have had ptsd that definitely is comparable to this situation

lol that you made a clinical diagnosis that someone has PTSD from a five second video of a guy slamming a woman in a parking lot.

duodenum
Sep 18, 2005

https://www.businessinsider.com/boris-johnson-blocked-report-naming-tory-donors-linked-to-kremlin-2019-11

This is UKPOL, not USPOL, but this is what I bet is behind Lindsay and Rand et al suddenly becoming super acolytes of the orange hate golem. Russian money in the NRA and Russian money directly funding GOP politicians. I hope all this poo poo somehow continues to come to light.

https://twitter.com/gtconway3d/status/1192931300128296960

If a Bloomberg-owned Fox became less GOP-TV, another turd would rise in its place.

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

Doctor Butts posted:

I don't have an ounce of sympathy for that woman.

yeah they should have curbstomped her afterwards and it should be legal to do

lets all brainstorm some more ways we can beat the poo poo out of old racists

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

PerniciousKnid
Sep 13, 2006

CubanMissile posted:

Not sure what she wanted me to do, but if you have bad enough PTSD that you can't control yourself, you need professional help and not people handwaving away your actions.

Do Popeye's employees get mental health benefits?

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG

CubanMissile posted:

It's not that I disagree with you. It's that my equally uncomplicated message is "When someone calls you a name, even if it's the worst loving name possible, hospitalizing thier frail asses isn't the best, smartest move."

Yes I am very sure that guy thought very carefully about it and made in his calm and rational judgement the best, smartest move.

CubanMissile
Apr 22, 2003

Of Hulks and Spider-Men

Flesh Forge posted:

Yes I am very sure that guy thought very carefully about it and made in his calm and rational judgement the best, smartest move.

Maybe he should have. Like most of us do every day at at work when we don't powerbomb old people that make us mad.

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Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

Doctor Butts posted:

I don't have an ounce of sympathy for that woman.
I forget the context, but someone here once posted "he didn't deserve it, but he sure had it coming". I really like the phrase a lot. That guy obviously shouldn't have body slammed her. It was wrong. But I can believe that while also having absolutely zero sympathy for her.

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