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WoodrowSkillson posted:yeah they should have curbstomped her afterwards and it should be legal to do Only in D&D can you say you don't feel sorry for someone's punishment and someone else escalates your words into shooting the person in the face while you laugh like some cartoon villain.
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Cefte posted:Actually, racist verbal abuse and sexual disinhibition are incredibly common presentations in both psychiatric and geriatric healthcare settings, and very often don't reflect pre-morbid personality or behaviour. No-one sensible would medically assess someone by security cam, but the quoted general statement is false. Funny how y'all will happily diagnose this lady with a case of dementia but generational trauma is a step too far
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Ogmius815 posted:Why is this tweet from four years ago suddenly being posted again? If I had to guess, it's because yesterday was the 30th anniversary of the East German government accidentally opening the checkpoints and allowing unrestricted crossing.
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Timmy Age 6 posted:Politico has an interesting article about Joe Arpaio's progressive legacy, which is all the people who he pissed off enough to get engaged in politics. Some good news coming out of Arizona, of all places. KPCC (NPR station for LA) had a similar retrospective this past week about Prop 187, which was the major catalyst that made CA's Hispanic population turn the state blue
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Ogmius815 posted:Why is this tweet from four years ago suddenly being posted again? I’m gonna guess that someone on Twitter retweeted it because of the anniversary of the Berlin Wall coming down and it’s just making the rounds again
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SocketWrench posted:Only in D&D can you say you don't feel sorry for someone's punishment and someone else escalates your words into shooting the person in the face while you laugh like some cartoon villain. It's almost like privileged whites will jump to defend their own even for racist tirades
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oxsnard posted:You might be right "And he appreciates the $28 billion aid package that the U.S. Department of Agriculture has distributed to compensate farmers for what they're losing in export sales. " Hmm, this sure sounds a lot like one of those handouts they get so upset about. I guess it's only wrong when it's inner city black families?
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SocketWrench posted:Only in D&D can you say you don't feel sorry for someone's punishment and someone else escalates your words into shooting the person in the face while you laugh like some cartoon villain. Welcome to his gimmick. Keeping such racism suppressed doesn't stop it but it does help reduce the normalization of it. Lynching was the result of socially approved racism and when you shift society towards allowing more hate the fringe is going to go even further.
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Koalas March posted:Funny how y'all will happily diagnose this lady with a case of dementia but generational trauma is a step too far
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KKKLIP ART posted:"If she said something she regrets" is the dumbest take ever. She is only going to regret it because she got sent to the school of hard knocks, otherwise she would be perfectly happy to keep calling folks racial slurs until poo poo got real. I think it’s acceptable to feel mixed emotions here. The employee shouldn’t have body slammed her. She shouldn’t have said what she said. It sucks that, due to where this happened, the employee is going to get the book thrown at him. It sucks that the woman is so badly injured. It sucks that she is going to probably win a multi-million dollar lawsuit against Popeye’s for being a racist. It sucks that retail and food service workers have to put up with this poo poo. It’s lovely all around. You don’t have to pick a side.
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Cefte posted:Actually, racist verbal abuse and sexual disinhibition are incredibly common presentations in both psychiatric and geriatric healthcare settings, and very often don't reflect pre-morbid personality or behaviour. No-one sensible would medically assess someone by security cam, but the quoted general statement is false. Good thing you're responding to a post made on an internet forum and the other poster isnt doing a rigorous psych eval. Would really like to hear your take on why the middle aged southern woman screaming slurs at service worker is actually doing it.
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I'm fine picking a side. I'm sure it's not the first time that person has had racist abuse hurled at them.
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https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1193312381918732290 I continue to be impressed at how stupid Dinesh D'Souza is. https://twitter.com/gilgrim/status/1193379211383197696
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FlamingLiberal posted:Where I worked, a lot of positions were lost in the years after the crash because there was no revenue coming in, so especially if someone retired, their positions were just never filled. I am still seeing a lot of cases where people retire and their responsibilities just get folded across two other people so they don't have to fill the space. Or at one point they bought out some people who were preparing to retire and didn't fill their positions. This is a logical necessity given productivity has increased and compensation has not. You just seeing the micro effect of a 40-year National trend. A Marxist analysis would call this the rate of exploitation increasing. Exploitation is the ratio between labor extracted and compensation for that labor. It's going up.
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Bubbacub posted:https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1193312381918732290 these guys are like one logical leap away from blaming the Liberal Ban On CFCs for global warming simply open up some new holes in the ozone layer and let all those greenhouse gases out
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It kind of cracks me up that a few people here apparently have never considered that if you throw around hate speech someone might come and literally break you in half. That would probably be unfortunate if not for the hilariously simple solution of: don't use hate speech, which is apparently a somehow difficult and bad standard to apply as an absolute
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Bubbacub posted:https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1193312381918732290 If it wasn't for the fact our mental health system sucks, Dinesh would surely be locked in a mental hospital
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Herstory Begins Now posted:I'm 100% not kidding that many people legitimately have traumatic events re-triggered by hearing slurs and if someone got slammed into the concrete I think it's more likely the dude was reliving some past poo poo and not seeing the woman in front of him. Which, is unfortunate for her, sure, but idk 'don't throw slurs around' is and 'dont keep throwing slurs around after a bunch of people tell you repeatedly in a variety of ways to quit' and 'dont still keep going even as they escort your racist old rear end out' are all pretty elemental things I have a relatively severe case of C-PTSD and have spent a lot of time working with getting people with PTSD treatment (including sexual assault victims and victims of racial violence). There's not a big enough gently caress you for perpetuating this stereotype that people with are violent people who can't control themselves. Especially to make some sort of bullshit case that having PTSD excuses violence, you want to run that by some domestic violence victims? You want to make a case that beating the poo poo out of old racists is justified then do it without this disgusting garbage.
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Koalas March posted:It's almost like privileged whites will jump to defend their own even for racist tirades That's generally how the shuffle works, where the "good" white people function as the PR arm for whiteness.
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Foul Ole Ron posted:Ah fair enough, it is just hard not to question devisive memes these days. I’ll also add that some low level radio host said it was like the n-word and was openly mocked by a dictionary twitter account. That’s when I saw it taking off.
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Bubbacub posted:https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1193312381918732290 I was extremely puzzled why he brought up nuclear winters until I realised he meant global cooling. What an asshat.
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Slowpoke! posted:I think it’s acceptable to feel mixed emotions here. Whoa a nuanced position in D&D, hold the phone. (I mean I guess “The justice system is unduly vengeful and cruel but also I want a parallel system of political justice that maims people for life” is also nuance for a certain value of the word.)
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Jarmak posted:I have a relatively severe case of C-PTSD and have spent a lot of time working with getting people with PTSD treatment (including sexual assault victims and victims of racial violence). There's not a big enough gently caress you for perpetuating this stereotype that people with are violent people who can't control themselves. Especially to make some sort of bullshit case that having PTSD excuses violence, you want to run that by some domestic violence victims? I never suggested they can't control themselves as a general thing, but mid episode in people with very severe ptsd (eg from a really loving vicious attack) yes absolutely people end up out of control and not aware of who/what/where/when. That's not even a controversial statement. Also the role of slurs in hatecrimes and as a subsequent trigger is similarly an established thing. By the way, my main reason for harping on this is that these kinds of events almost without exception unfold the same way: it's some dipshit who spends 5 minutes yelling offensive poo poo as people try to calm them down and try to de-escalate and they're always given ample verbal warnings, both gently and sternly to shut up and leave, usually are literally trespassing for most of it, and generally they initiate contact. If that dude reacted based off of a single statement that's one thing, but people who spend minutes saying literally the most inflammatory things they can think of to say because, idk, they feel small and want to lash out and don't realize there are consequences? You act like that much of an rear end in a top hat, you've fully written the check for whatever happens after you ignored 5 minutes of pleaded warnings to stop. At a certain point people are responsible for how the world responds to them Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Nov 10, 2019 |
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Are we sure Dinesh didn’t mean the fear over nuclear war between the US and Russia and nuclear fallout? That somehow because it didnt happen the left had made all the fear mongering up?
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Gatts posted:Are we sure Dinesh didn’t mean the fear over nuclear war between the US and Russia and nuclear fallout? That somehow because it didnt happen the left had made all the fear mongering up? Well, that would be like a criminally stupid stance to take and furthermore.... *Dinesh* ...Ah, well, maybe that is it
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Gatts posted:Are we sure Dinesh didn’t mean the fear over nuclear war between the US and Russia and nuclear fallout? That somehow because it didnt happen the left had made all the fear mongering up? i think what would actually make sense is if he was talking about the incorrect late-70s ideas about "global cooling". (which, if i understand right, is more like what the wrongest minority in the early scientific debates about climate change thought) but instead he said the dumbest thing eke out fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Nov 10, 2019 |
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Gatts posted:Are we sure he didn’t mean the fear over nuclear war between the US and Russia and nuclear fallout? That somehow because it didnt happen the left had made all the fear mongering up? I don't think it's fair to give him the benefit of the doubt in this case. It wasn't something he said during a debate or anything spur of the moment like that, he had enough time to plan out and tweet exactly what he wanted to say and it doesn't make sense.
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Gatts posted:Are we sure Dinesh didn’t mean the fear over nuclear war between the US and Russia and nuclear fallout? That somehow because it didnt happen the left had made all the fear mongering up? It’s always the dumbest option with Dinesh, which is why his pardon was guaranteed.
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Cefte posted:Actually, racist verbal abuse and sexual disinhibition are incredibly common presentations in both psychiatric and geriatric healthcare settings Is that what we're calling Popeye's now? e: I mean this is America so maybe 
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Yeah the whole idea that a 55 year-old woman is some helpless old crone is pure fiction. This story is really just a comment on how the lack of trustworthy American police or judiciary causes massive amounts of societal disruption, particularly amongst black populations that effectively have no law enforcement to turn to when needed. Vigilante justice is bad in many ways, which is why it needs to be preempted by instituting legitimate systems that can protect the public.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:It kind of cracks me up that a few people here apparently have never considered that if you throw around hate speech someone might come and literally break you in half. That would probably be unfortunate if not for the hilariously simple solution of: don't use hate speech, which is apparently a somehow difficult and bad standard to apply as an absolute True. And this lady should have known better than to keep running her mouth. For society's sake I hope she has a better filter now going forward, since it's not like we can undo what happened, so I'm looking for possible silver linings. But you know, as justified from some angles as that employee's anger was, I bet in light of what is sure to happen to him next he'd take back what he did in a second. The justice system is going to break him in half now. No winners here.
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Jeez, lots of broken moral compasses here. They're both wrong. She obviously should not be using racial slurs. He obviously should not have injured her in response. Nothing wrong, I suppose, with relishing the schadenfreude, but let's not pretend that the extremely violent response was justifiable.
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If I start screaming the n word at black people when I’m elderly feel free to curb check me or at the very least put a gag on.
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CubanMissile posted:eh, if he just hit her maybe. Not nine fractures in her elbow, six broken ribs and a broken left leg. Don't drop the N-bomb if you can't take the powerbomb.
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Arglebargle III posted:This is a logical necessity given productivity has increased and compensation has not. You just seeing the micro effect of a 40-year National trend. A Marxist analysis would call this the rate of exploitation increasing. Exploitation is the ratio between labor extracted and compensation for that labor. It's going up. I prefer to simplify it to "profit is the difference between the value of your work and what they pay you for it"
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Seanzor posted:Jeez, lots of broken moral compasses here. They're both wrong. She obviously should not be using racial slurs. He obviously should not have injured her in response. She was definitely more in the wrong than he was, though. There was an element of self-defense here.
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1glitch0 posted:Don't drop the N-bomb if you can't take the powerbomb. This is pretty much a classic talk poo poo get hit moment, and I'm not sure why anyone should be expecting any mercy from a marginalized population by showing up and terrorizing them with racial slurs. Skex posted:I prefer to simplify it to "profit is the difference between the value of your work and what they pay you for it" This is most obvious for anyone in a blatant people renting industry like consulting, where the difference between the rate card and what you're getting paid is staggeringly huge.
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Seanzor posted:Jeez, lots of broken moral compasses here. They're both wrong. She obviously should not be using racial slurs. He obviously should not have injured her in response. This is what worries me about the far left right now. They seem to be way too eager for a violent revolution. I don't think talk of "guillotines" is a joke, any more than the alt-right are joking when they talk about killing minorities. I'm on the left because I hope for a better life for everyone, not because I want to shift the categories of "people who society has deemed should suffer" to people I hate.
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BarbarianElephant posted:This is what worries me about the far left right now. They seem to be way too eager for a violent revolution. I don't think talk of "guillotines" is a joke, any more than the alt-right are joking when they talk about killing minorities. given your posting history here you are probably correct to be worried about the very real threat of guillotines
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