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Sep 26, 2019

Chris Jericho
Aja Kong
Fenix
Sanada
Private Party
Cody
Hirooki Goto

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UltimoDragonQuest
Oct 5, 2011



Chris Jericho
Chris Dickinson
Ultimo Guerrero
Fenix
Sanada
Ronda Rousey
Barbaro Cavernario
Hirooki Goto

just rust
Oct 23, 2012

Chris Jericho
Shayna Baszler
Aja Kong
Adam Page
Sanada
Private Party
Cody
Sasha Banks

Punch McLightning
Sep 19, 2005

you know what that means




Grimey Drawer
Results:

Chris Jericho 23, El Hijo del Vikingo 14
Chris Dickinson 24, Shayna Baszler 12
Aja Kong 28, Ultimo Guerrero 9
Fenix 36, Adam Page 4
Sanada 27, Keith Lee 12
Private Party 37, Ronda Rousey 3
Cody 28, Barbaro Cavernario 12
Hirooki Goto 30, Sasha Banks 9

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

its almost time to vote

Punch McLightning
Sep 19, 2005

you know what that means




Grimey Drawer
it is now time to vote

Special formatting request: Please only list the name of the person you are voting for from each match-up. This will be easier for me to count than bolding names from match-ups. I can work around this if necessary, but if you can vote by just listing the name of your choice, that would be great.

You can abstain from votes. You are not required to list that vote as ‘abstain,’ you just need to skip it.



Zack Sabre Jr.
Finished 12th in Favorite Active Wrestlers thread
Eliminated in Round 4 of 2017 WH-128 by Hiromu Takahashi


ZSJ has taken up the mantle of the world’s greatest technical wrestler from Daniel Bryan, and it’s shown in the WON Awards. Sabre Jr. has won Best Technical Wrestler from those awards every year since 2014, and there’s no reason to think 2019 will be any different. He’s been moving his way up the New Japan card as well, getting multiple high profile wins against the legendary Hiroshi Tanahashi this year. A tremendous heel, Sabre should be a start for years to come.

Dalton Castle
Eliminated in Round 1 of 2017 WH-128 by Johnny Gargano

The Party Peacock won the RoH World Championship late in 2017, but at that point was so injured that his reign was heavily impacted by his physical condition. Once he came back healthier in 2019, he’s been able to regain some momentum, doing a good job in a feud to get Rush over and having good matches with Dragon Lee & Will Ospreay between RoH & NJPW.



Bray Wyatt
Eliminated in Round 1 of 2017 WH-128 by Kyle O’Reilly
Eliminated in Round 2 in 2015 by Bayley
Eliminated in Round 1 in 2013 by Chris Jericho


After floundering for a couple of years, Wyatt is back and being heavily pushed as THE FIEND. It’s still early in this run, as he’s only wrestled once on TV as THE FIEND, when he squashed Finn Balor at SummerSlam. His Firefly Funhouse segments have gotten over big with non-Fox execs, and his run in attacks have definitely kept him strong. Before the time off and this gimmick, he was capable of having good to great matches and has always had good charisma.

Marty Scurll
Eliminated in Round 3 of 2017 WH-128 by AJ Styles

Scurll is another talented wrestler that appears to have been hurt by Ring of Honor’s down year. He started the year very hot after his work with the Elite, but seems to have cooled off after signing full time with RoH. He also had a solid showing in New Japan’s Best of the Super Juniors tournament, where he had standout matches with Jonathan Gresham, Shingo Takagi, & SHO. In RoH, he and his stablemates in Villain Enterprises have been able to work together to make the RoH Six Man Tag Team Championship mean more than it did before. He’s charismatic and talented in the ring, so he should be able to regain his momentum in the near future.



Asuka (WWE)
Finished 23rd in Favorite Active Wrestlers thread
Eliminated in quarter finals of 2017 WH-128 by Tetsuya Naito


Asuka may be the most talented in-ring woman wrestler in the world right now. She won the first women’s Royal Rumble and is a former Smackdown Women’s Champion. Unfortunately, after dropping that belt to Becky Lynch, Asuka has been underused. She’s still extremely talented.

Chris Brookes
Did not appear in 2017 WH-128

Brookes is a world-traveler, with Cagematch listing him as appearing in 33 companies this year alone. Naturally, a good number of those are in Europe, but he’s also appeared in DDT, GCW, Sendai Girls, and Big Japan. His match in July with Konosuke Takeshita in DDT was well received.



Seth Rollins
Eliminated in Round 2 of 2017 WH-128 by Kofi Kingston

Ignoring his Twitter antics, we’re talking about one of the most talented in-ring workers in the world. He hasn’t been putting on highly rated matches regularly, but his main feuds this year have been with Baron Corbin & Braun Strowman, so that’s not going to happen. Despite all of that, his matches with AJ Styles & Brock Lesnar both got ****1/4 this year, and he can reach that level with talented opponents.

Takashi Sugiura
Did not appear in 2017 WH-128

Sugiura is one of the best male workers in Japan outside of New Japan for several years now, and this is in spite of being 49. He’s a four-time GHC Heavyweight Champion, and he and KAZMA SAKAMOTO had a short reign with the GHC Tag Team Championship this calendar year. His June match with Kaito Kiyomiya has a lot of amazing reviews, and he’s also had good 2019 matches with Marufuji, Shiozaki, and Kenou.



Velveteen Dream
Finished 28th in Favorite Active Wrestlers thread
Did not appear in 2017 WH-128


The Dream might be WWE’s most charismatic worker. With a look that’s one of a kind, Velveteen has slowly been upping his game. If he continues to improve his ring work, he should be at the top of WWE’s cards in no time.

KENTA
Eliminated in Round 2 of 2017 WH-128 by Asuka
Eliminated in Round 2 in 2015 by Bobby Fish
Eliminated in Round 2 in 2013 by Seth Rollins
Eliminated in Round 4 in 2011 by Chris Hero
Eliminated in Round 2 in 2009 by Edge
Eliminated in Round 3 in 2007 by Ken Kennedy


KENTA’s basically the Jon Moxley of Japan – he left WWE, where he was misused and unhappy, to go to New Japan. Once there, he had a bunch of great G1 matches, including against ZSJ, Ospreay, Okada, and Tanahashi. He also turned heel the last day of the G1 to join Bullet Club, punctuating his shift by beating down Katsuyori Shibata.



Johnny Gargano
Eliminated in Round 2 of 2017 WH-128 by Katsuyori Shibata
Eliminated in Round 2 in 2015 by Cesaro
Eliminated in Round 2 in 2013 by Prince Devitt


He’s been limited by injury recently, but Gargano has had a run as maybe the best in-ring worker in WWE history with his NXT main events. His series with Tommaso Ciampa and Adam Cole both received tremendous acclaim, and he also had an amazing match with Ricochet this past January.

Sammy Guevara
Did not appear in 2017 WH-128

Guevara has really established himself as a great heel. He first succeeded in AAA and with a great run of matches in PWG before signing with AEW. Once there, he’s had a really good match with Cody and then joined Chris Jericho’s new top of the card heel group, “The Inner Circle.”



Kenny Omega
Finished 7th in Favorite Active Wrestlers thread
Eliminated in final of 2017 WH-128 by Kazuchika Okada
Eliminated in Round 2 in 2015 by Shinsuke Nakamura
Eliminated in Round 3 in 2013 by Mark Henry
Eliminated in Round 4 in 2011 by Kevin Steen
Eliminated in Round 2 in 2009 by Kofi Kingston


Omega spent 2018 putting on countless great matches as he became one of the few gaijin to ever hold the IWGP World Heavyweight Championship. He lost some momentum as he sat out most of 2019 for the formation of AEW, but his few appearances in 2019 all been great matches. He’ll get a chance to show his greatness over the last few months of 2019 with a regular television show.

Jushin Liger
Eliminated in Round 1 of 2017 WH-128 by Finn Balor
Eliminated in Round 1 in 2015 by BxB Hulk
Eliminated in Round 3 in 2013 by Brock Lesnar
Eliminated in Round 3 in 2011 by The Undertaker
Eliminated in Round 1 in 2009 by Rey Mysterio


Liger announced he would be wrapping up his career at Tokyo Dome 2020, so his 2019 has had increased exposure for the veteran. He had a great title challenge against Taiji Ishimori in March, tagged with the Great Sasuke in a fun match against Shinjiro Otani and Tatsuhito Takaiwa in ZERO1 in July, and had a very nice send off in CMLL in July. He’s currently in a feud with Minoru Suzuki that has resulted in the return of Jushin’s psychopathic Kishin side.



Dragon Lee
Eliminated in Round 3 of 2017 WH-128 by Zack Sabre Jr.

I don’t feel bad for Dragon Lee, but he’s certainly had a tumultuous few weeks before this tournament. He shined in the Battle of Los Angeles, including a five star match with Bandido, and has done well in New Japan and Ring of Honor. However, he was fired by long-time home CMLL after an extended period of strife between himself and his brother Rush and the company. This should be wrestling’s gain, though, as Dragon Lee is now free to pursue even more highlight matches around the world.

SCU, Christopher Daniels, Frankie Kazarian, & Scorpio Sky
Daniels: eliminated in Round 1 of 2017 WH-128 by Chuck Taylor
Kazarian & Scorpio: not appearing in the 2017 WH-128


SCU is just about the perfect fun babyface midcard act, and they’ve shined in the role when they were previously in RoH and now in AEW. This year they’ve already had great matches with Stronghearts & against A Boy, his Dinosaur, and a Small Boy. Their pre-match promos help them instantly get over with any crowd they perform in front of.

Your ballot:

Zack Sabre Jr. vs. Dalton Castle
Bray Wyatt vs. Marty Scurll
Asuka vs. Chris Brookes
Seth Rollins vs. Takashi Sugiura
Velveteen Dream vs. KENTA
Johnny Gargano vs. Sammy Guevara
Kenny Omega vs. Jushin Liger
Dragon Lee vs. SCU

Voting closes at 7 p.m. Eastern on Tuesday, or whenever I get in front of a computer after that.

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

Zack Sabre Jr.
Marty Scurll
Asuka
Takashi Sugiura
KENTA
Sammy Guevara
Jushin Liger
Dragon Lee

Do not even ask
Apr 8, 2008


Zack Sabre Jr.
Bray Wyatt
Chris Brookes
Takashi Sugiura
Velveteen Dream
Johnny Gargano
Kenny Omega - by a ramen noodly hair
Dragon Lee

Do not even ask fucked around with this message at 03:44 on Nov 11, 2019

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
ZSJ
Bray Wyatt
Asuka

KENTA
Sammy Guevara
Jushin THUNDER Liger
Dragon Lee

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
If Sugiura isn't unanimous we riot



Zack Sabre Jr.
Marty Scurll
Chris Brookes
Takashi Sugiura
KENTA
Sammy Guevara
Kenny Omega
Dragon Lee

Suplex Liberace
Jan 18, 2012



goddam i missed a few votes

Zack Sabre Jr.
Marty Scurll
Asuka
Takashi Sugiura
KENTA
Sammy Guevara
Jushin Liger
Dragon Lee

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy
Zack Sabre
Marty Scurll
Takashi Sugiura
KENTA
Sammy Guevara
Kenny Omega
SCU

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

Zack Sabre Jr.
Abstain
Abstain
Takashi Sugiura
KENTA
Sammy Guevara
Jushin Liger
Dragon Lee

The Berzerker
Feb 24, 2006

treat me like a dog


Zack Sabre Jr.
Marty Scurll
Velveteen Dream
Kenny Omega
Dragon Lee

Lead Pipe Cinch
Mar 10, 2003

Heavy Metal Bakesale


Zack Sabre Jr.
Marty Scurll
Asuka
Velveteen Dream
Sammy Guevara
Kenny Omega
SCU

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
I swear to God, if you nerds knock Liger out in favour of a weeb with a perm...

Draxion
Jun 9, 2013




Zack Sabre Jr.

Chris Brookes
Takashi Sugiura
KENTA
Sammy Guevara
Jushin Liger
Dragon Lee

Numero6
Oct 10, 2012

ここは地の果て 流されて俺
今日もさすらい 涙も涸れる
ブルーゲイル
Zack Sabre Jr.

Asuka
Takashi Sugiura
KENTA
Sammy Guevara
Jushin Liger
SCU

Pinwiz11
Jan 26, 2009

I'm becom-, I'm becom-,
I'm becoming
Tana in, Tana in my mind.



Zack Sabre Jr.
Marty Scurll
Asuka

Velveteen Dream
Johnny Gargano
Jushin Liger
Dragon Lee

Insertnamehere31
Jan 23, 2012

This could be the most one-sided fight since 1973 when Ali faced an eighty-foot tall mechanical Joe Frazier. My memory isn't what it used to be, but I think the entire Earth was destroyed.

Zack Sabre Jr.
Bray Wyatt
Asuka
Takashi Sugiura
Velveteen Dream
Johnny Gargano
Kenny Omega
Dragon Lee

GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012

Zack Sabre Jr.
Bray Wyatt
Asuka
Takashi Sugiura
KENTA
Sammy Guevara
Jushin Liger
Dragon Lee

Wow how did we end up with two matches pitting an unlikeable whiny dork against a cool old Japanese wrestler on the same ballot?

duckdealer
Feb 28, 2011

Zack Sabre Jr.
Marty Scurll
Chris Brookes
Takashi Sugiura
KENTA
Sammy Guevara
Kenny Omega
SCU

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Zack Sabre Jr
Marty Scurll
Chris Brookes
Takashi Sugiura
KENTA
Sammy Guevara
Jushin Liger
Dragon Lee

Thauros
Jan 29, 2003

Zack Sabre Jr.
Marty Scurll
Chris Brookes
Takashi Sugiura
KENTA
Sammy Guevara
Jushin Liger
Dragon Lee

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Zack Sabre Jr.
Marty Scurll
Asuka
Seth Rollins
Velveteen Dream
Johnny Gargano
Jushin Liger
SCU

Queer Salutations
Aug 20, 2009

kind of a shitty wizard...

Zack Sabre Jr
Marty Scurll
Chris Brookes
-
KENTA
Johnny Gargano
Kenny Omega
Dragon Lee

Voting Brookes over Asuka because of Vince's terrible booking. Omega vs Liger is just cruel...

John Dudebro
Dec 3, 2013

Dalton Castle
Marty Scurll
Chris Brookes
KENTA
Sammy Guevara
Kenny Omega
Dragon Lee

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

Zack Sabre Jr.
Marty Scurll
Chris Brookes
Takashi Sugiura
KENTA
Sammy Guevara
Jushin Liger
Dragon Lee

not a hard choice in the bunch

Big Dave
Nov 6, 2009

Friends don't shake hands, friends gotta hug!


Zack Sabre Jr.
Bray Wyatt
Chris Brookes
Takashi Sugiura
KENTA
Sammy Guevara
Jushin Liger
Dragon Lee

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Super No Vacancy posted:

Zack Sabre Jr.
Marty Scurll
Chris Brookes
Takashi Sugiura
KENTA
Sammy Guevara
Jushin Liger
Dragon Lee

not a hard choice in the bunch

:agreed:

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN

Benne posted:

If Sugiura isn't unanimous we riot

Endless Mike posted:

Seth Rollins

:toughguy:

Cool Post Beg
Mar 6, 2008

DADDY MAGIC
Dalton Castle
Bray Wyatt
Asuka
Velveteen Dream
Sammy Guevara
Jushin Liger
SCU

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Zack Sabre Jr.
Bray Wyatt
Asuka
Abstain
KENTA
Johnny Gargano
Jushin Liger
SCU

Man I would have easily gone with Velveteen Dream over KENTA only a few months ago, KENTA's resurgence has been remarkable.

Also loving hell it was hard to choose between Kenny and Liger.

AlmightyPants
Mar 14, 2001

King of Scheduling
Pillbug
Zack Sabre Jr.
Marty Scurll
Asuka
abstain
KENTA
Johnny Gargano
Kenny Omega
SCU

GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012

Jerusalem posted:

Man I would have easily gone with Velveteen Dream over KENTA only a few months ago, KENTA's resurgence has been remarkable.

Velveteen Dream vs. Hideo Itami would have been a blow out and I'm not sure Punch would have even bothered to include him.

just rust
Oct 23, 2012

Zack Sabre Jr.
Marty Scurll
Asuka
Takashi Sugiura
KENTA
Sammy Guevara
Kenny Omega
Dragon Lee

Fad
Nov 13, 2002

I dont care.
Zack Sabre Jr.
Bray Wyatt
Asuka

KENTA
Johnny Gargano
Jushin Liger
Dragon Lee

Fad fucked around with this message at 06:56 on Nov 11, 2019

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
Zack Sabre Jr - I love my socialist octopus son
Marty Scurll - can't wait for him to get to AEW
Asuka - will never forget the good times
Takashi Sugiura - gently caress you Seth
KENTA - amazing career resurrection
Sammy Guevara - the future
Kenny Omega - Liger's great but Kenny's matches have been next level
Dragon Lee - come back and face Hiromu you coward

Zack Sabre Jr
Marty Scurll
Asuka
Takashi Sugiura
KENTA
Sammy Guevara
Kenny Omega
Dragon Lee

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

GEORGE W BUSHI posted:

Velveteen Dream vs. Hideo Itami would have been a blow out and I'm not sure Punch would have even bothered to include him.

In the alternate reality where he stayed in WWE, I'd be voting for Dream and posting,"loving wild, if you'd told me a couple years ago I'd be voting for Patrick Clark over KENTA I'd have laughed at you."

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forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Zack Sabre Jr.
Marty Scurll
Chris Brookes
Takashi Sugiura
KENTA
Johnny Gargano
Jushin Liger
Dragon Lee

I adore that Sugi is getting votes purely on the basis of "not Seth Rollins". Okay, he should get votes based on the fact he's loving awesome one of the most consistently great wrestlers this decade, but take what you can get.

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