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Majorian posted:I mean, it makes me laugh, but ymmv. people are gonna get disappeared and indigenous people will be targeted, especially since there's been a latent apologism for nazis from the upper classes of Bolivian society since the nazis fled there from germany. it wouldn't surprise me at all to see the lighter-skinned citizens coalesce around this nationalism, because that's the sort of "oh the nazis aren't THAT bad" comments their parents believed because they lived next door to them
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so, yeah, any picture of a truck load of people flying swastikas driving around in bolivia worries the gently caress out of me
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GreyjoyBastard posted:i agree, assad and putin are amazing leftists hobbling the American empire is good, actually
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pillsburysoldier posted:people are gonna get disappeared and indigenous people will be targeted, especially since there's been a latent apologism for nazis from the upper classes of Bolivian society since the nazis fled there from germany. it wouldn't surprise me at all to see the lighter-skinned citizens coalesce around this nationalism, because that's the sort of "oh the nazis aren't THAT bad" comments their parents believed because they lived next door to them Hey, you successfully predicted the d&d thread's contents! Amazing, how did you do it?
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THS posted:you suck pretty bad dude
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Atrocious Joe posted:But I'm not sure why I even bothered coming here tbh. I didn't even know about Union Juvenil Cruceñista joining the opposition in Santa Cruz, and now people are implying I'm a Nazi apologist. People are viewing this issue in very rigid black and white terms and dismissing the comments of the only Bolivian in this thread. This is a complex situation that is happening in my country, and there are many, many people that think Morales was a wannabe dictator. This will likely be my last comment in this thread. Adiós y Viva Bolivia carajo! Please source your quotes.
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Majorian posted:Hey, you successfully predicted the d&d thread's contents! Amazing, how did you do it? I mean, I'm saying these things negatively, as if they're bad things. I've heard these exact same things, but said with smiles and positivity. "Hoo boy, the nazis are actually good because they just want everyone work hard, ooo-ie!" sigh 
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pillsburysoldier posted:so, yeah, any picture of a truck load of people flying swastikas driving around in bolivia worries the gently caress out of me It would be very easy for me to attack you and call you an authoritarianism and dictatorship apologist. You call this a right wing coup, but this doesn't erase the fact that Bolivians from all strides of life are tired of living under the boot of a man who thirsts for power. We have had too many dictatorships in our history. Not one more.
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i say swears online posted:It would be very easy for me to attack you and call you an authoritarianism and dictatorship apologist. You call this a right wing coup, but this doesn't erase the fact that Bolivians from all strides of life are tired of living under the boot of a man who thirsts for power. We have had too many dictatorships in our history. Not one more. what
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they're pretending to be a right wing Bolivian your understanding of the situation is correct and please don't let all of us who've had our brains poisoned by following and interacting with Latin American reactionaries further discourage you
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THS posted:you suck pretty bad dude i like to think i'm actually pretty educable and appreciate the effort by the dudes in the dnd thread when i ask questions or when things happen i don't ask questions about, i'm just not terribly interested in enduring performative jeers hereabouts so I mostly just lurk and read the occasional actual content as opposed to, you know THS posted:you suck pretty bad dude
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Stalin laughs from the Void about the naivety of pink tide socialism staving off eternally renewing USA imperialism by making flowering overtures about "collaboration and cooperation." I like Evo Morales. He is a true moral leader. People should, however, take note about the weakness and vulnerability of electoral socialism.
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Ahh I wasn't catching the irony with the new-ish faces, as I'm mostly only watching the trump thread
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GreyjoyBastard posted:i like to think i'm actually pretty educable and appreciate the effort by the dudes in the dnd thread when i ask questions or when things happen i don't ask questions about, i'm just not terribly interested in enduring performative jeers hereabouts so I mostly just lurk and read the occasional actual content it truly is amazing how your teachable moments always have you siding with the right
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GreyjoyBastard posted:i like to think i'm actually pretty educable and appreciate the effort by the dudes in the dnd thread when i ask questions or when things happen i don't ask questions about, i'm just not terribly interested in enduring performative jeers hereabouts so I mostly just lurk and read the occasional actual content you play your part as the thankful, credulous, well-wishing American to every single one of these blood-drenched movements. you are about as credible as Andy Ngo as someone “just asking questions” and waiting to see where the information takes you
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Hilario Baldness posted:Stalin laughs from the Void about the naivety of pink tide socialism staving off eternally renewing USA imperialism by making flowering overtures about "collaboration and cooperation." This is my takeaway from today's events as well
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pillsburysoldier posted:Ahh I hope you read the op
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Corky Romanovsky posted:I hope you read the op no
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:Anywhere on the world, where there is the CIA or National Endowment for Democracy or some new set of State Department talking points to be made about the flavor of the week national enemy there is Greyjoy Bastard to thank some fascist sock puppet for its unique voice and perspective the dude is a walking talking NPR piece that aligns with trumpism, except with nicer word choice
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how long before the coup government in Bolivia recognizes Juan Guaidó as the legitimate (interim?) President of Venezuela
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i like to think i am pretty educable. i have read thoroughly, and am now educated in all of the ways electrified cables are used to torture people in stadiums. with this knowledge i become above it all, knowing that there is suffering in this world, but also that that's just the way things work in this world; those who confront me on my enlightened view with harsh words are enacting a violence equal to if not worse than the guys burning indigenous families alive.
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gradenko_2000 posted:it truly is amazing how your teachable moments always have you siding with the right He's learning so much!
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Rodatose posted:i like to think i am pretty educable. i have read thoroughly, and am now educated in all of the ways electrified cables are used to torture people in stadiums. with this knowledge i become above it all, knowing that there is suffering in this world, but also that that's just the way things work in this world; those who confront me on my enlightened view with harsh words are enacting a violence equal to if not worse than the guys burning indigenous families alive. I remember a light skinned upper class bolivian family friend saying that, in Bolivia, he always felt he was white, but upon visiting the US, he saw what whiteness REALLY was, and settled, lamenting he'll never be truly white as the chosen anglos of the US, and recalibrated his notion of social standing around that "realization"
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Hilario Baldness posted:Stalin laughs from the Void about the naivety of pink tide socialism staving off eternally renewing USA imperialism by making flowering overtures about "collaboration and cooperation." This is a good post and has given me a lot to think about.
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an "ally" who needs instruction to know who is suffering and how to distinguish between those who're suffering and those who are causing suffering is not an ally at all. at best they are a distraction to those who don't have time for that because they're currently going through a crisis and need all hands on deck; at worst, they are going to inevitably collaborate with those who cause suffering. the alt-right recruits alienated teen dudes by exploiting the fragility of their egos, engaging their obviously wrong ideas so that their sensitive feelings (built on wrong foundations) aren't hurt and they feel like they can belong to something. it's not a good idea to coddle those wrong ideas because those ideas, in the long run, produce only more suffering, so they aren't worth giving an inch to. if you want to say "well being made fun of makes me want to side with the death squads," then reexamine the foundation of who you are. if you want to learn but youre getting jeered a lot when you participate, it's not everyone else's fault; its yours and you should lurk more.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:i like to think i'm actually pretty educable and appreciate the effort by the dudes in the dnd thread when i ask questions or when things happen i don't ask questions about, i'm just not terribly interested in enduring performative jeers hereabouts so I mostly just lurk and read the occasional actual content been a few months, have you figured out whether trying to starve Venezuelans into loving the US is a good idea yet
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GreyjoyBastard posted:i like to think i'm actually pretty educable and appreciate the effort by the dudes in the dnd thread when i ask questions or when things happen i don't ask questions about, i'm just not terribly interested in enduring performative jeers hereabouts so I mostly just lurk and read the occasional actual content love to be a rudderless ship sailing the open seas of ideology
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unwantedplatypus posted:Man, I hope whatever leftist organizations exists in Bolivia can counter this somehow. they're trying, there are still Morales supporters on the streets and it's pushing 1 AM there
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- if its a dictatorship they'll cry foul and try to coup/regime change you - if you're democratic they'll lie, call you a dictator and try to coup you anyway evo morales was one of the least objectionable people in world politics, a guy who genuinely improved his country and did good works and didn't bloody his hands to do it, and the hatchet job liberals and the liberal press have done on him is eye opening.
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freckle posted:Just a few hours ago people itt seemed certain that the military forced Morales to resign. Now its some underground fascist movement? The whiplash is unbearable. I'm p sure that guy is a getfiscal rereg because no one else could generate such aggressively confident and perfectly incorrect naïveté
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