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https://twitter.com/davidschneider/status/1193798433594843137 Are people really this dumb? Jo Swinson says the Lib Dems will never vote for a Corbyn government and people are STILL suggesting Labour should stand aside for her party. What do they think would happen at the end? When Labour/Lib Dems collectively get enough seats to form a government and Swinson refuses to vote for it? Even if Labour wanted an alliance (which we don't) Swinson has ruled out any possibility.
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Looks like the theme today is Jeremy Corbyn Won't Murder Millions Of People And That Is A Disgrace Thornberry not really helping on the R4 circuit though, sounds like she wasn't briefed enough or is just letting Nick Robinson of all people run rings around her
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Doccykins posted:Looks like the theme today is Jeremy Corbyn Won't Murder Millions Of People And That Is A Disgrace #Rememberthefallen though.
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Apraxin posted:
The massive bounce back from -0.2% to 0.4%, which incidentally happened at the same time as No Deal Brexit being prevented again.
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There is like zero chance of Labour beating the Caroline Lucas party in Pavilion anyway so it would be a completely meaningless gesture.
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Steve2911 posted:#Rememberthefallen though. I must be stupid or something but I always felt like the best way to do this was to emphasise the horrors of the trenches and make sure nothing like this ever loving happened again. That's definitely how my grandmother and my primary school presented it. At what point did Remembrance Sunday become this weird festival of patriotism?
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Loving how obviously dumb Skills Wallets look by simply writing this line at the end of the summary:BBC posted:The Lib Dem plan - which would only apply to England as education is devolved to the other nations - would:
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The Bolivia coup is cool because it's a reminder what'll happen here to PM Corbyn if we're not careful.
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I am very much a lurker here,so I just wanted to point out that BBC Breakfast aired footage from a previous year's cenotaph memorial to cover for Johnson. Different coloured wreath, coat buttoned up, different hair cut. Literally just re-editing history, in one of the more blatant recent examples of Tory propaganda from the beeb. Happened at 7.31am on breakfast this morning. Not seeing a lot of talk about it yet. Back to lurking.
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forkboy84 posted:The Bolivia coup is cool because it's a reminder what'll happen here to PM Corbyn if we're not careful.
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I keep misreading it as Skins Wallet. Also this is one of the stupidest things I have seen from someone I used to think was really funny on The Day Today. Lib dems are tories.
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Purple Prince posted:I must be stupid or something but I always felt like the best way to do this was to emphasise the horrors of the trenches and make sure nothing like this ever loving happened again. That's definitely how my grandmother and my primary school presented it. Pretty much as soon as the crematorium curtains closed on Harry Patch.
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Jose posted:https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/st...ingawful.com%2F Kill All Cops posted:
 viable fetuses/pro natalist message there too.Angepain posted:They look utterly horrified at simply being alive. Big mood. 
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Purple Prince posted:I must be stupid or something but I always felt like the best way to do this was to emphasise the horrors of the trenches and make sure nothing like this ever loving happened again. That's definitely how my grandmother and my primary school presented it. Whenever the first November 11th after the last WW1 survivor died was (e: beaten). Although, tbf, the actual memorial service at the cenotaph is still as strong on the actual Remembrance aspect as ever. It's just the month of War Christmas leading up to it that's dumb, tasteless and entirely against the reason for the day. I watched the Festival of Remembrance from the Albert Hall on Saturday. First is that it should it really be a 'Festival'? And second it was an awkward 50/50 split between "It's terrible that all these people died. War is hell" and "It's great that all these people died for us. War is pretty good, actually" BalloonFish fucked around with this message at 10:12 on Nov 11, 2019 |
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Quote isn't Edit. Have a guinea pig pic here instead 
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Kill All Cops posted:
that's too young, those kids are going to have a poo poo time with their health if they survive.
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xtothez posted:Loving how obviously dumb Skills Wallets look by simply writing this line at the end of the summary: I love everything about Skills Wallets. It's just the pinnacle of technocratic idiocy. A convoluted, incomprehensible plan, which would cost billions, marginally help a handful of middle class people, appeal to no one and result in a massive transfer of public money to the private sector. It's just brilliant.
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thatbastardken posted:that's too young, those kids are going to have a poo poo time with their health if they survive.
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deletebeepbeepbeep posted:There is like zero chance of Labour beating the Caroline Lucas party in Pavilion anyway so it would be a completely meaningless gesture. But meaningless gestures are how politics is done! Do you not understand this? 
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Nov 11, 2019 10:40
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A cool booklet that is published by the Institute for Employment Rights and should be free for a  LIMITED TIME ONLY Thought you lot might enjoy it. The mythology of business
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Carborundum posted:I love everything about Skills Wallets. It's just the pinnacle of technocratic idiocy. A convoluted, incomprehensible plan, which would cost billions, marginally help a handful of middle class people, appeal to no one and result in a massive transfer of public money to the private sector. It's just brilliant. It's the furthest centrists are willing to go to pretend they're addressing the problem.
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Braggart posted:But meaningless gestures are how politics is done! Well in this specific instance some token gesture would be a way of bridgebuilding between the parties but it seems like the Greens have realised the Remain alliance is going down like a lead balloon amongst anyone with a functioning brain or knowledge of recent history so are doing it for a bit of damage control.
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BalloonFish posted:Quote isn't Edit. I think the left one is how cleaning robots will one day look. Also shih tzus.
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namesake posted:Well in this specific instance some token gesture would be a way of bridgebuilding between the parties but it seems like the Greens have realised the Remain alliance is going down like a lead balloon amongst anyone with a functioning brain or knowledge of recent history so are doing it for a bit of damage control. Indeed, so it may well be worth Labour standing down in Brighton Pavilion for the optics, as you say. But not for the Lib Dems. Unless there's practical advantage to doing that somewhere. Hell, maybe Labour could use that to shame the Lib Dems into reciprocati... HAHAHAHAHA I'm sorry I couldn't keep a straight face 
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Miftan posted:A cool booklet that is published by the Institute for Employment Rights and should be free for a Braggart posted:It's the furthest centrists are willing to go to pretend they're addressing the problem.
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this seems somewhat misleading... https://twitter.com/MirrorPolitics/status/1193810437902655489
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Guavanaut posted:This is very good so far, thanks. By page 5 you get the phrase "in fact, there are very few economists who have ever actually been stupid enough to advocate trickle down economics." it owns.
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Jose posted:https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/st...ingawful.com%2F We just going to ignore suspicious irregularities of the election? That he ignored the referendum result on extending maximum term and just ran anyway? That when he was behind in the polls he paused the election to allow himself time to recover? The guys done a lot of wonderful things for his country but he's looking more and more like a dictator trying to hold onto power and for Corbyn to tweet in his defence like that during a general election make me think hes a moron.
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good poster Ice Phisherman said in the USPOL thread that centrists like to think they're above politics but really they're just extremists for the status quo, which I thought was a good line
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Lovely avatar, Miftan.
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Mega Comrade posted:We just going to ignore suspicious irregularities of the election? That he ignored the referendum result on extending maximum term and just ran anyway? That when he was behind in the polls he paused the election to allow himself time to recover? This is why I have kinda held off complaining about Morales, but I do also suspect there is something untoward in the way he stepped down - and how many times off the top of your head has "the military has taken over <country>" gone well in modern history?
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ronya posted:Lovely avatar, Miftan. Thanks, I blame Tess.
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Tesseraction posted:This is why I have kinda held off complaining about Morales, but I do also suspect there is something untoward in the way he stepped down - and how many times off the top of your head has "the military has taken over <country>" gone well in modern history? Oh I completely agree. But when your opponents are already making accusations you want to be the British Stalin, speaking up in defence of a current leader who was making all the stereotypical dictator power moves seems to me like a dumb decision.
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Barry Foster posted:good poster Ice Phisherman said in the USPOL thread that centrists like to think they're above politics but really they're just extremists for the status quo, which I thought was a good line Excuse me, radical centrists, if you please.
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Mega Comrade posted:We just going to ignore suspicious irregularities of the election? That he ignored the referendum result on extending maximum term and just ran anyway? That when he was behind in the polls he paused the election to allow himself time to recover? Morales agreed to have another election as soon as OAS released their report. The Supreme Court of Bolivia said term limits were unconstitutional. The "pause" in vote counting was the "quick" count, something which the OAS requests. They stopped the quick count after counting around 80% of votes, which is normal. The quick count has no bearing on the final decision, only the full count confirms the election. After OAS and others insisted on the quick count continuing for some reason (I've not been able to discern any valid reasoning behind it) then they resumed the quick count. Next release of numbers was 24 hours later, as you indicated, and that release of the quick count was something like 92% of votes counted. Morales was about 7.8% clear of the 2nd place person at 80% count, and the progression to just over 10% clear, avoiding a runoff, was indicated by the gains he was making prior to that point, and expected as the votes counted last are rural votes, which are a strong area for Morales.
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Coohoolin posted:this seems somewhat misleading... Is the idea to claim she supports this so that next time she's at an interview the reporter then goes "are you in favour of this..." and she has the difficult job of trying to say no without it looking bad.
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xtothez posted:This sums up so much about politics. The people who don't know what they're doing are supposedly normal but anyone asking for an explanation on how the country is run is 'awkward'. Trust the ears, xtothez. Trust the Dear Leader  
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I’m 100% on the this is a coup train but I’m still very leery of the way Morales got his term extensions because it’s classic South American strongman poo poo. Like with Venezuela it’s important not to give carte Blanche support to lovely regimes and while I don’t think Morales is lovely I do think his moves on democracy have been counter productive to a long term socialist movement. Centering power on the figurehead is a red flag and he should have allowed a smooth succession on the left because that’s an important part of democracy. His policies won’t survive him if he doesn’t and it seems likely now that the Bolivian left power structures are going to be black bagged because he left the door open to it. Edit: this was supposed to go in the Latin America thread but it’s been brought up here too so I’ll let it stick.
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