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goose willis
Jun 14, 2015

Get ready for teh wacky laughz0r!

LingcodKilla posted:

For you guys who like alternative models.


https://dreamforge-games.com/collections/all

the plastics are on a pretty big close out sale

https://dreamforge-games.com/products/wgf-w2003-wwii-russian-infantry-28mm

Very, very strongly suggest getting this box while you all can. In total you get thirty guys and an officer for just $3.75 and the kit is pretty nicely detailed and has a lot of poses and gun options. Makes for some great guardsmen converting, and it just gives you tons and tons and tons of bits to use for general human models that aren't in power armor.

The price is ridiculously low and it's probably the last time you'll be able to get it since nobody else carries it and your only source will be overpriced eBay sellers. It's such a stupidly good price that you have no reason to not buy at least one or two boxes. When I first got some for a Soviet Imperial Guard army I'm converting, they were just $8.00 a box, and even then I thought it was some ridiculous steal. Now you can get it for half of that price.

Come on, get yourself some Soviets while you still can.

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Kitchner
Nov 9, 2012

IT CAN'T BE BARGAINED WITH.
IT CAN'T BE REASONED WITH.
IT DOESN'T FEEL PITY, OR REMORSE, OR FEAR.
AND IT ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT STOP, EVER, UNTIL YOU ADMIT YOU'RE WRONG ABOUT WARHAMMER
Clapping Larry

goose willis posted:

https://dreamforge-games.com/products/wgf-w2003-wwii-russian-infantry-28mm

Very, very strongly suggest getting this box while you all can. In total you get thirty guys and an officer for just $3.75 and the kit is pretty nicely detailed and has a lot of poses and gun options. Makes for some great guardsmen converting, and it just gives you tons and tons and tons of bits to use for general human models that aren't in power armor.

The price is ridiculously low and it's probably the last time you'll be able to get it since nobody else carries it and your only source will be overpriced eBay sellers. It's such a stupidly good price that you have no reason to not buy at least one or two boxes. When I first got some for a Soviet Imperial Guard army I'm converting, they were just $8.00 a box, and even then I thought it was some ridiculous steal. Now you can get it for half of that price.

Come on, get yourself some Soviets while you still can.

Man I nearly impulse bought 3 of these and I was going to use the head and the equipment to bash together with some cadian infantry squad kits and get some valhallans.

Then I saw $37 postage and then I thought "90 guardsmen would actually cost a fortune too, and you already have a huge guard army you fool".

Thank god for that.

goose willis
Jun 14, 2015

Get ready for teh wacky laughz0r!
Where do you live that it's so high for you? It wasn't nearly that bad for me, like ten dollars.

Lord_Hambrose
Nov 21, 2008

*a foul hooting fills the air*



ineptmule posted:

Graveyard Earth base rims was so ubiquitous it was a thread meme on here back in the day.

Goblin Green or bust

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/11/11/faith-fury-a-first-lookgw-homepage-post-3/

The first Faith & Fury preview is up.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer

Lord_Hambrose posted:

Goblin Green or bust

I am baptist pastoring this so hard.


Do as I say, not as I do.

Cricken_Nigfops
Oct 25, 2011

CROM!
Cross posting my intercessor crimson fist sergeant here, I really like how he came out.

DandyLion
Jun 24, 2010
disrespectul Deciever


Haha, "Daemon Weapons embody the truly anarchic nature of Chaos perfectly, offering you enormous power – if you’re willing to take the risk. These weapons are among the best Relics in the game, offering vast and unpredictable bonus."

Not quite. I feel like the Daemon weapon needs a couple more points of AP to be really effective.....

Kitchner
Nov 9, 2012

IT CAN'T BE BARGAINED WITH.
IT CAN'T BE REASONED WITH.
IT DOESN'T FEEL PITY, OR REMORSE, OR FEAR.
AND IT ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT STOP, EVER, UNTIL YOU ADMIT YOU'RE WRONG ABOUT WARHAMMER
Clapping Larry

goose willis posted:

Where do you live that it's so high for you? It wasn't nearly that bad for me, like ten dollars.

Her Majesty's Most Glorious Brexitland

Der Waffle Mous
Nov 27, 2009

In the grim future, there is only commerce.

DandyLion posted:

Haha, "Daemon Weapons embody the truly anarchic nature of Chaos perfectly, offering you enormous power – if you’re willing to take the risk. These weapons are among the best Relics in the game, offering vast and unpredictable bonus."

Not quite. I feel like the Daemon weapon needs a couple more points of AP to be really effective.....

well.

at least they learned enough to at give it D2.

DandyLion
Jun 24, 2010
disrespectul Deciever

Der Waffle Mous posted:

well.

at least they learned enough to at give it D2.

They figured with the prevalence of -1dmg what would it hurt to give Chaos some D2 (since its effectively the same). Little concessions like that keep the playerbase happy ya know.

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW
That weapon looks like it was created for the express purpose of turbo-murdering Centurions.

DandyLion
Jun 24, 2010
disrespectul Deciever

Strobe posted:

That weapon looks like it was created for the express purpose of turbo-murdering Centurions.

5/6ths of the time. the other ~17% its just murdering the wielder.




This only reaffirms my fear that NuMarines will be the meta till they push 9th.

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

goose willis posted:

https://dreamforge-games.com/products/wgf-w2003-wwii-russian-infantry-28mm

Very, very strongly suggest getting this box while you all can. In total you get thirty guys and an officer for just $3.75 and the kit is pretty nicely detailed and has a lot of poses and gun options. Makes for some great guardsmen converting, and it just gives you tons and tons and tons of bits to use for general human models that aren't in power armor.

The price is ridiculously low and it's probably the last time you'll be able to get it since nobody else carries it and your only source will be overpriced eBay sellers. It's such a stupidly good price that you have no reason to not buy at least one or two boxes. When I first got some for a Soviet Imperial Guard army I'm converting, they were just $8.00 a box, and even then I thought it was some ridiculous steal. Now you can get it for half of that price.

Come on, get yourself some Soviets while you still can.

Thanks! For less than $10 after shipping, this is a steal.

PierreTheMime
Dec 9, 2004

Hero of hormagaunts everywhere!
Buglord
A mortal wound on a 1 hurts a lot less in this edition than it used to. In previous editions your precious HQ would have a small wound count and there was no way to reroll the result. Burning a CP to recover isn’t great, but if it didn’t exist it would be far worse.

goose willis
Jun 14, 2015

Get ready for teh wacky laughz0r!

Taintrunner posted:

Thanks! For less than $10 after shipping, this is a steal.

It's such a stupidly good deal, get three boxes, get four, I stocked up and got ten lmfao

DandyLion
Jun 24, 2010
disrespectul Deciever

PierreTheMime posted:

A mortal wound on a 1 hurts a lot less in this edition than it used to. In previous editions your precious HQ would have a small wound count and there was no way to reroll the result. Burning a CP to recover isn’t great, but if it didn’t exist it would be far worse.

Its just that the tradeoff isn't appreciably better than what the NuMarines get. Same rough effect, but with more randomness/less control-ability and an added bonus of doing wounds to yourself. Presumably its also 50% more cost resource to get it than in a marine list....

I'm just salty I spent the weekend defeating myself and my dusty boys with double 1's/6's and paying twice as many points for half the effectiveness as the NuMarine bastards I was playing against.

Lord_Hambrose
Nov 21, 2008

*a foul hooting fills the air*



DandyLion posted:

This only reaffirms my fear that NuMarines will be the meta till they push 9th.

Gosh, Marines getting too much attention? 8th must be your first rodeo.

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

goose willis posted:

It's such a stupidly good deal, get three boxes, get four, I stocked up and got ten lmfao

Can I mix IG guardsmen with Sisters of Battle? I'm pre-ordering that boxset this week as my first 40k army and some cannon fodder would be cool.

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW
A relic sword with S6 minimum and an average of S7/8 plus AP-5 and D2 is... better than most relic weapons.

PierreTheMime
Dec 9, 2004

Hero of hormagaunts everywhere!
Buglord

DandyLion posted:

Its just that the tradeoff isn't appreciably better than what the NuMarines get. Same rough effect, but with more randomness/less control-ability and an added bonus of doing wounds to yourself. Presumably its also 50% more cost resource to get it than in a marine list....

I'm just salty I spent the weekend defeating myself and my dusty boys with double 1's/6's and paying twice as many points for half the effectiveness as the NuMarine bastards I was playing against.

“That’s chaos!”

There’s a lot of codices that I think need a hard look after the new SM treatment. Considering they’ve been the face of 40k forever I’m actually kind of glad to see them around top tables again. I hadn’t lost a single serious 8th match against SM until the new ‘dex, so this new meta makes it more interesting (for me at least).

That said, Tyranid update when. I doubt they’ll revamp everything in PA, considering what we’ve seen for other factions but they could surprise me.

goose willis
Jun 14, 2015

Get ready for teh wacky laughz0r!

Taintrunner posted:

Can I mix IG guardsmen with Sisters of Battle? I'm pre-ordering that boxset this week as my first 40k army and some cannon fodder would be cool.

I don't see why not, can't you just take a separate detachment of each because they're both imperium?

xtothez
Jan 4, 2004


College Slice

PierreTheMime posted:

That said, Tyranid update when. I doubt they’ll revamp everything in PA, considering what we’ve seen for other factions but they could surprise me.

PA3 releases Dec 7th. I'm not expecting a huge change after seeing what Dark Eldar got, but Chapter Approved is out the same day so hopefully the combination of new rules and point changes will be positive.

R0ckfish
Nov 18, 2013
I am surprised no one is mentioning that marines can also spend CP to make fancy versions of Chaplains, Librarians, etc. Which is also not helping with the book count thing.

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW

xtothez posted:

PA3 releases Dec 7th. I'm not expecting a huge change after seeing what Dark Eldar got, but Chapter Approved is out the same day so hopefully the combination of new rules and point changes will be positive.

Based on Phoenix Rising and the TOC from Faith and Fury I'm going to bet that Nids will get a new psychic discipline, and that each hive fleet will get relics, warlord traits, and strats.

Blood Angels will also get a new discipline, Mephiston, new rules for Dante (okay that's just my wishlist), and some BA successors will get tactics, strats, and relics.

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW

R0ckfish posted:

I am surprised no one is mentioning that marines can also spend CP to make fancy versions of Chaplains, Librarians, etc. Which is also not helping with the book count thing.

If everything you need out of a book is half a dozen paragraphs you can fit on a 3x5 notecard, you don't need to haul that book around.

jng2058
Jul 17, 2010

We have the tools, we have the talent!





Taintrunner posted:

Can I mix IG guardsmen with Sisters of Battle? I'm pre-ordering that boxset this week as my first 40k army and some cannon fodder would be cool.

goose willis posted:

I don't see why not, can't you just take a separate detachment of each because they're both imperium?

Of course you can. It's even a pretty good idea...now.

However, given how Marines 2.0 encouraged monofaction armies with bonuses if you play all Ultramarines, say, I think it likely we'll see similar bonuses for the other armies as the codexes get revised. So while there's no reason not to Soup Sisters and Guard together now, that may not be true this time next year.

JIZZ DENOUEMENT
Oct 3, 2012

STRIKE!
Still, edition 8.5 with consolidated reprints would be very welcome.

The only army that needs a structural reworking of design is Tau, right? Mainly just because of how much their current design slows down the game.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
If anyone has spare infiltrator helmets let me know.

PierreTheMime
Dec 9, 2004

Hero of hormagaunts everywhere!
Buglord

JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:

Still, edition 8.5 with consolidated reprints would be very welcome.

The only army that needs a structural reworking of design is Tau, right? Mainly just because of how much their current design slows down the game.

They need the biggest overhaul, yeah. There’s tons of other codices that could make do with exactly the same core mechanics with just more special rules. Tau, if played competitively, are just a chore to play.

I do think GW also needs to whip Forgeworld into shape and review all their model rules and special options. There’s a lot of factions that are just filled with nice models with garbage rules and others that are way overpowered. I mean, that’s fundamentally been FWs thing forever, but “new” GW should fix that and get their options more in line with expectations.

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

GW doesn't seem to care all that much about Forgeworld as Forgeworld and more keen on using it as Specialist Games these days.
At least how I see it these days with glacial release pace and the IA books pretty much dead in the water.

PierreTheMime
Dec 9, 2004

Hero of hormagaunts everywhere!
Buglord
If they want to let it languish and die just rule that they’re out of Matched play or something. Keeping this weird exception for models that don’t see proper support is just awkward and leads to some factions getting nothing while others get special models with overpowered rules that sound like someone’s 13-year old cousin came up with them.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
If you go after my resin son I will not react kindly.

goose willis
Jun 14, 2015

Get ready for teh wacky laughz0r!
Can they just make renegades and heretics a proper army already with a codex because besides that Forge World outside of 30k is basically nothing but overpowered guard tanks and fringe faction vehicles that look like dildos

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW
T'au should have a <PATH> keyword like Chaos Marines have <MARK> and have those unlock special rules when conditions are met. One generic bonus with condition or small drawback (Kauyon: reroll 1s to hit if you didn't move), one better bonus within 6" of <PATH> HQ unit (Mont'ka: +6" range to Rapid Fire and Assault weapons when advancing), one Master of War bonus for <PATH> units within 6" of Commanders (Mont'ka: +3" to advance and charge rolls, can fire heavy weapons while advancing at -2 to hit, +1 to hit when advancing), and 5-6 <PATH> specific strats.

After changing how drones work, of course, because absolutely nothing changes until that does.

xtothez
Jan 4, 2004


College Slice

PierreTheMime posted:

I do think GW also needs to whip Forgeworld into shape and review all their model rules and special options. There’s a lot of factions that are just filled with nice models with garbage rules and others that are way overpowered. I mean, that’s fundamentally been FWs thing forever, but “new” GW should fix that and get their options more in line with expectations.

Cooked Auto posted:

GW doesn't seem to care all that much about Forgeworld as Forgeworld and more keen on using it as Specialist Games these days.
At least how I see it these days with glacial release pace and the IA books pretty much dead in the water.

They've already confirmed that the main 40k studio is now handling 40k FW rules; I understand that's where the Knight & Custodes updates came from earlier this year.

Back at the August open day GW said there was a 'big announcement' coming regarding FW. Would be nice for everyone else to get the same treatment with revamped rules for all the FW index units, made available for free online.

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

xtothez posted:

Back at the August open day GW said there was a 'big announcement' coming regarding FW. Would be nice for everyone else to get the same treatment with revamped rules for all the FW index units, made available for free online.

Well here's to FW getting revitalized then. Apparently they're dropping the Fimir army for AoS from what I've heard so I guess they're trying to restructure it somewhat.

DandyLion
Jun 24, 2010
disrespectul Deciever

PierreTheMime posted:

... just awkward and leads to some factions getting nothing while others get special models with overpowered rules that sound like someone’s 13-year old cousin came up with them.

But enough about New Space Marines

jng2058
Jul 17, 2010

We have the tools, we have the talent!






I got three boxes of these dudes for $25, including S&H. Now I can replace my shittily painted Catachans with slightly less shittily painted Russians.

Look, it's a process. :shrug:

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Technowolf
Nov 4, 2009




Full unboxing of the Sisters Army set

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Not only that, but you’ll see a showcase of shiny new miniatures that won’t be out for a while yet,** and check out the updated datasheets for the entire range – including a number of, ahem… BRAND-NEW, NEVER-BEFORE-SEEN UNITS!

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