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Azza Bamboo posted:I like the idea of voluntary euthanasia being legal after a certain age cutoff. I'd like to have the mercy to choose my date of death, have that be known and prepared for, and to thereby avoid the indignity and suffering of a slow demise to age related disease which is the end most people will have. As opposed to some posters here who apparently would like to
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Might sound boring but I'd prefer to see the franchise increased rather than decreased tbh; both in terms of the the 30%-60% of the population who don't vote and the millions who aren't allowed to.
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Rustybear posted:Might sound boring but I'd prefer to see the franchise increased rather than decreased tbh; both in terms of the the 30%-60% of the population who don't vote and the millions who aren't allowed to. does mandatory voting make Australian politics substantially different from other Anglophone countries
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Rustybear posted:Might sound boring but I'd prefer to see the franchise increased rather than decreased tbh; both in terms of the the 30%-60% of the population who don't vote and the millions who aren't allowed to. Mandatory voting a la Australia has always sounded reasonable to me, and I see no reason not to extend the franchise to 16.
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ThomasPaine posted:I'm kind of hoping that What I was thinking as well. If there is an hung parliament with a potential LAB+LD majority, the LD could try to spin it as "we forced LAB to call a 2nd ref" or all the rest of their "we are the true remain party" stuff. Then they would probably put obstacles to the real policies that would bring a 2nd ref based on some kind of nebulous principles, and try to leverage that into more gains in another early election.
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Miftan posted:Yeah, probably unintentionally, but very ableist. Tying it to age is a bit sketchy as well since olds will get massively hosed, but considering how they're currently loving the younger generations I really can't blame anyone who thinks like this. Probably the best thing is to restrict the vote of anyone who makes over 100k and abolish private property imo Yes I worded it badly. I meant more 'of an age at which it is legal to work', not 'only people who can work'.
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Rustybear posted:The demographic of ppl who vote in Australia is largely the same as ours? What point are you making here? That mandatory voting is a thing there and they still have a lovely right wing government, I think.
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ronya posted:does mandatory voting make Australian politics substantially different from other Anglophone countries You get shitloads of donkey votes because of it though, so it’s also flawed, especially when the incumbent government is the first option and will always get the 1 if you aren’t doing 2 party preferred.
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It's very anti-Semitic that the UK doesn't make it so only ethnically Jewish people can vote, and Corbyn is obviously responsible.
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Diet Crack posted:You get shitloads of donkey votes because of it though, so it’s also flawed, especially when the incumbent government is the first option and will always get the 1 if you aren’t doing 2 party preferred. This can be solved by using randomised ballots, although it does make ballot counting slower. And electronic voting is still troublesome.
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Tesseraction posted:It's very anti-Semitic that the UK doesn't make it so only ethnically Jewish people can vote, and Corbyn is obviously responsible. Even Israel hasn't gone that far yet.
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Miftan posted:That mandatory voting is a thing there and they still have a lovely right wing government, I think. Well maybe they should extend the vote to teenagers, migrants etc etc and see if that helps.
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I do hope one day we reach the point where everyone can safely and securely vote via an app or phone service. I know it'd open the floodgates to hackers etc but the process as it is now is, for a lot of people, onerous and out of line with how people interact with the world.
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Miftan posted:Even Israel hasn't gone that far yet. Yeah, just always love the irony of "Jewish democracy" when it's an either-or situation.
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Steve2911 posted:I do hope one day we reach the point where everyone can safely and securely vote via an app or phone service. I know it'd open the floodgates to hackers etc but the process as it is now is, for a lot of people, onerous and out of line with how people interact with the world. Invest in votecoin.
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Jippa posted:What's a donkey vote? In mandatory voting, someone who doesn't give a poo poo will usually tick the top box on the paper without looking at who it is.
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Azza Bamboo posted:I like the idea of voluntary euthanasia being legal after a certain age cutoff. I'd like to have the mercy to choose my date of death, have that be known and prepared for, and to thereby avoid the indignity and suffering of a slow demise to age related disease which is the end most people will have.  And that age should be the age of majority. It's directly ablist (as well as ridiculous) that we say that it's no longer illegal for a healthy person to end their own life, but someone who is disabled or terminally ill and would require assistance to end their life is prevented from doing so. With our current state of affairs you end up with the ridiculous situation where police harass sick people into an early death because they were making preparation to die at a time of their choosing, way to save a life tru hearoes! Also there's pretty decent evidence that if you start to take away the stigma around it you actually get less people wanting to end their lives, and far less people attempting to do so through dangerous methods that leave them incapacitated rather than dead or that harm others. Tesseraction posted:It's very anti-Semitic that the UK doesn't make it so only ethnically Jewish people can vote, and Corbyn is obviously responsible.
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Azza Bamboo posted:I like the idea of voluntary euthanasia being legal after a certain age cutoff. I'd like to have the mercy to choose my date of death, have that be known and prepared for, and to thereby avoid the indignity and suffering of a slow demise to age related disease which is the end most people will have. I don't get the age cutoff here - assisted suicide should just be legal. A right to life should be a right to die too.
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Mainly tho zero interest in debating the weirdo system of a poisonous continent inhabited for less than 100 years by mostly white settlers as the be-all end-all on the moral right of all capable adults to have some small say in the governance of the place they live.
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Diet Crack posted:You get shitloads of donkey votes because of it though, so it’s also flawed, especially when the incumbent government is the first option and will always get the 1 if you aren’t doing 2 party preferred. That is straight up not true if you're talking about Australia. Percentage of donkey votes here isn't particularly high, ballot order is randomised, so nobody is guaranteed first spot, and I don't even understand your point about two party preferred because that's just a method of figuring out who got the first and second most votes, not a voting method.
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Tesseraction posted:In mandatory voting, someone who doesn't give a poo poo will usually tick the top box on the paper without looking at who it is. BRB, registering the Aaaa Party. Ms Adequate posted:Just saw and came to post this. This comment made me smile, cos it reminded me of the Vurt books HauntedRobot fucked around with this message at 14:31 on Nov 11, 2019 |
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Tenebrais posted:Implying Johnson didn't outright bribe Farage for this. I wonder what he offered. Likely he reminded Farage that no deal can still happen on February 1 and preventing a hung parliament or Labour majority means preventing a second Benn Act.
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HauntedRobot posted:BRB, registering the Aaaa Party. Ballots are sorted on candidate surname, so you'll need to register the Aardvark Family Party and have a lot of people with deed polls.
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HauntedRobot posted:BRB, registering the Aaaa Party. AaaaaAAaaaAAAaaAAAAaAAAAA!!! — A Reckless Disregard for Capital
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Tesseraction posted:Ballots are sorted on candidate surname, so you'll need to register the Aardvark Family Party and have a lot of people with deed polls.
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Candidates Aaron, Abbas, Abbey, Abbott, and Abdel.
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Diet Crack posted:Bring the prince of Wales out of sea trials and send it straight to Bolivia, it’s time for some VTOL bombing runs My brain thinks takeoff is one word so I always parse that acronym as Vertical Takeoff Or Landing. You don't get both, flyboy  
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They should all stand as the independent brexit candidate.
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post your favourite lyrics from this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D79IrmumF8 mine is "We fought in one, two world wars. We're going to live forever like Santa Claus"
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Tenebrais posted:Implying Johnson didn't outright bribe Farage for this. I wonder what he offered. The big question is, if it honestly looks like remaining PM is going to cost the conservatives the opportunity to deliver brexit, would Boris step down and take the money, or cling on to power? HauntedRobot posted:BRB, registering the Aaaa Party.
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