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Filthy Haiku posted:Jesus Christ. Between this and the dull move animations, I can't really muster any enthusiasm for this game. It probably needed another year to mature. Pretty much the same, I love Pokemon but since like ORAS things have been incredibly spotty and this game seems like another notch along that trend. It'll be interesting to hear from people playing through (the ones whose opinions aren't mostly summed up by "Don't ask questions, just consume product and then get excited for more products." anyways) for their take on the game as they play through. I did end buying Sun and Moon after a month, maybe if it turns out I'm just completely off-base I can take another look at it down the line.
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Nanigans posted:So the learnsets leaked and.... Get hosed Toxapex! People were worried that gen 8 was going to become stally but between this, the ridiculous attack stats revealed on some others, Keldeo, sand rush drill, TTar... nah. Stall will be viable but not dominating. And as much as I miss megas, Mega Sableye can go choke on it’s oversized gem. Every time I saw that thing in team preview my heart sank, because I knew what was coming.
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extra row of teeth posted:Get hosed Toxapex! Have you seen Grimmsnarl's ability?
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With a moment's more thought, I realize that I haven't been looking too harshly at Pokemon games for quite a while because they've been handheld pixellated games for so long that I don't expect much. The trees looking worse than a 13 year old launch title for a console two generations ago reminds me of those awful Deviant Art "progress" pictures where anime obsessives haven't improved their art in any recognizable sense in a decade. I'll still like the game, but this will stay in the back of my mind.
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Nanigans posted:So the learnsets leaked and.... That's gonna be nearly Lucario levels of moveset unpredictability, and hope the HA comes in time. Still thinking of the case of the gen 2 starters HA. Dr. Red Ranger posted:Yeah that looks bad. They can move to a three year development cycle and I won't resent them for it. The really need to. Nobody would fault them for taking more time to develop.
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I also hate to be down on one of my favorite franchises but that's the crux of it, yeah. It's a console title at a $20 price point increase and Pokemon is the highest earning media franchise of all time. It's hard to understand what gives. I'm not cancelling my pre-order and I'm going to enjoy the game at launch, but it's a disappointing sign for the future. Or hey, maybe this is the year where everything snaps.
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Nov 11, 2019 19:43
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Oh no, 20 dollars.
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Nanigans posted:So the learnsets leaked and....  that is one wascally wabbit.
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Injuryprone posted:Oh no, 20 dollars. guillotine
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Maybe I'm being blinded by "ooh, shiny new toy" but the game looks much better in motion than it does in still screenshots. Not saying it's okay, but I don't think it's as bad as those screens make them out to be.Injuryprone posted:Oh no, 20 dollars. Yeah, this is me, too. I understand the anger when you phrase it as "50% more expensive," but when that 50% is only $20? Not a big deal to me. I guess that's me showing my privilege, but I have a decent job and don't buy more than a handful of games a year, so I'm not going to notice $20. 
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Nov 11, 2019 19:46
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qnqnx posted:The really need to. Nobody would fault them for taking more time to develop. remember when animal crossing got delayed and nintendo was very upfront that it needed more time in the oven and then their stock price went down because of it basically what i'm saying is that capitalism is ruining pokemon
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Y'all seen the big list of moves that have been cut out too?
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Brother Entropy posted:remember when animal crossing got delayed and nintendo was very upfront that it needed more time in the oven and then their stock price went down because of it on the flipside of the ac delay, AFAIK the fans were just kinda like, oh bummer but we get it
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Injuryprone posted:Oh no, 20 dollars. I'm Canadian so it's 30
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Live Free posted:on the flipside of the ac delay, AFAIK the fans were just kinda like, oh bummer but we get it yeah exactly. i'm sure the same would've happened if Sw/Sh got a delay but being all tied up in the anime and merchandising and all that means that wasn't really an option
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Annath posted:Y'all seen the big list of moves that have been cut out too? Yes, and the long and short of it is "meh." The only moves lost of any real consequence are Return, Pursuit and Hidden Power. In exchange, some of the new moves we're getting... lmao Darmanitan gets Belly Drum. It's going to be predictable as gently caress, but Belly Drum triggering its ability to activate, making its comical attack stat go even higher, and then being faster than anything bar Choice Scarf users is... 
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Brother Entropy posted:yeah exactly. i'm sure the same would've happened if Sw/Sh got a delay but being all tied up in the anime and merchandising and all that means that wasn't really an option All the more reason why Gamefreak needs to up its developer numbers ASAP, cause it'll only get worse from here, especially when Nintendo eventually moves on to even more powerful hardware.
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Annath posted:Y'all seen the big list of moves that have been cut out too? gamefreak have gone too far this time those monsters double slap had a family!
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Nov 11, 2019 19:54
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game bad
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Super No Vacancy posted:game bad Counter point: game...good? 
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Nanigans posted:Counter point: game...good? game land of contrasts
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Nanigans posted:Counter point: game...good? hmmm.... nah
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Nov 11, 2019 19:58
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No game that gives us Sirfetch'd could ever be less than a 23 out of 10. hth
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Nov 11, 2019 19:59
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Game good, goons bad.
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Super No Vacancy posted:game bad Nanigans posted:Counter point: game...good? What if...game game?
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Game bad, thinking of buying Digimon for the Switch.
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Between the battle arenas apparently being half-assed, the weirder cuts to moves (I guess special bug types can just go gently caress themselves?), and all the various other poo poo they're being cagey about, my optimism for this game is rapidly diminishing. I mean, I still have it preordered, but I hope my suspicions are incorrect and it's not XY all over again. Brother Entropy posted:remember when animal crossing got delayed and nintendo was very upfront that it needed more time in the oven and then their stock price went down because of it but also really, they should take longer to make the main games and contract out spinoffs to fill the intervening time, it's the best for everyone involved
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I can't claim to understand anything about Japanese business practices wrt to anime and video game development beyond "there's probably significant spin-up time for all the related merchandising they obviously want to do and the train can't stop for anyone" but it seems like a natural investment for such a pace would be more staff and equipment to keep up if they don't want longer development cycles. Of course I've also read that anime exists in a state of permanent insufficiency to keep margins up so greater in-house investment may never happen.
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So I was looking at the stat dump, and I kind of  ====== 1170 - Eternatus 1 (Stage: 3) ====== Galar Dex: #400 Base Stats: 255.115.250.125.250.130 (BST: 1125) What the fresh gently caress is this? I assume there's some explanation for this that isn't completely and utterly insane that I just haven't heard about or something, but still, the gently caress?
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Supremezero posted:So I was looking at the stat dump, and I kind of the 'stage: 3' bit makes me think that's the stats for the special uncatchable form of eternatus that you fight in the story
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Supremezero posted:So I was looking at the stat dump, and I kind of That's its Gigantomax stats that you fight in a raid.
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is there a summary somewhere of why people are so mad about this latest pokemon game, or at least the latest reasons, i've heard about the roster cuts
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RottenK posted:is there a summary somewhere of why people are so mad about this latest pokemon game, or at least the latest reasons, i've heard about the roster cuts low quality across the board
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Blaziken386 posted:(I guess special bug types can just go gently caress themselves?), Bug Buzz still exists.
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RottenK posted:is there a summary somewhere of why people are so mad about this latest pokemon game, or at least the latest reasons, i've heard about the roster cuts Roster cuts Just found out about a bunch of moves being cut and unusable Seems rushed about the last third (?)
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:I can't claim to understand anything about Japanese business practices wrt to anime and video game development beyond "there's probably significant spin-up time for all the related merchandising they obviously want to do and the train can't stop for anyone" but it seems like a natural investment for such a pace would be more staff and equipment to keep up if they don't want longer development cycles. Of course I've also read that anime exists in a state of permanent insufficiency to keep margins up so greater in-house investment may never happen. RottenK posted:is there a summary somewhere of why people are so mad about this latest pokemon game, or at least the latest reasons, i've heard about the roster cuts -also, apparently, the move cuts -the incredibly bad PR when announcing said cuts, followed by no damage control -the graphics, while a step above other pokemon games, are kinda obviously bad in some areas -people don't like charizard -because some people didn't like how much SM showed pre-release, they've gone the opposite direction and showed off absolutely nothing, which is probably not what you want to do when people are ALREADY assuming the worst -people are starting to get apathetic about the generational gimmick stuff, because, as seen with megas getting thrown out, they'll be relevant for this gen only, which upsets the part of the fandom who will play through a gen 3 game and transfer an old mon all the way forward for the purpose of getting a specific move
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Nanigans posted:Yes, and the long and short of it is "meh." Nobody is detailing if this is purely in game pokemon or if transferred pokemon will still be able to use them.
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RottenK posted:is there a summary somewhere of why people are so mad about this latest pokemon game, or at least the latest reasons, i've heard about the roster cuts People think that the pokedex being cut, along with some moves and screenshots compared to old games that "look bad" think that is proof that game freak is lazy and incompetent and that pokemon needs to be taken from them and given to (insert studio/developer here). In reality it's all knee jerk reactions to changes.
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How can I live without Bubble in my life. Where would I be without Camouflage. O Mud Sport, where art thou. Seriously, while there a couple of ??? choices with the move cuts, most of them make sense.
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