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BIG HEADLINE posted:Surprised this hasn't gotten more mention seeing as it's another airliner having a similar issue to the MAX: https://onemileatatime.com/american-eagle-jet-loses-control/ Runaway trim is a thing that can happen. That’s why it’s in the emergency checklist after all! Until the cause is found here you can’t say it’s like the max.
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 Hi AI:AI megathread. I lurk here a lot. I really enjoy the content here and I hope you appreciate my image. Mostly this post is a way to bring attention to  AI:Secret Santa 2019Please consider joining us this year for the most fun you can have with your feet on the ground! https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3903165&perpage=40&pagenumber=1#pti18
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How does runaway trim typically happen? I assume autopilot being too aggressive?
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slidebite posted:How does runaway trim typically happen? I assume autopilot being too aggressive? I assume something getting stuck usually. Or, in the case of these poor pilots the trim controls had been installed backwards: https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/trim-rigging-at-fault-in-colgan-1900d-crash-187372/ quote:The fatal flight was the first after maintenance had been carried out on the aircraft. Causal factors cited by the NTSB include: a short-cut in working practices by the mechanics who were replacing the forward elevator trim cable; ambiguity in a trim control system diagram in the airliner maintenance manual (AMM) ; the crew's failure to note in the maintenance log before take-off the nature of the work that had just been carried out; and their omission of the "first flight of the day" checklist, which includes an elevator trim check that would have revealed the error.
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Has audio: https://i.imgur.com/xKOgTj5.mp4 Welcome to Chicago! FuturePastNow fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Nov 11, 2019 |
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Nov 11, 2019 20:09
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FuturePastNow posted:Has audio: I'm impressed by the camera person holding their nerve and didnt duck or flail around when it was clear things were going sideways.
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Nov 11, 2019 21:08
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"I think we landed"
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Zhanism posted:I'm impressed by the camera person holding their nerve and didnt duck or flail around when it was clear things were going sideways. 
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Nov 11, 2019 21:39
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Zhanism posted:it was clear things were going sideways. 
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Nov 11, 2019 22:16
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FuturePastNow posted:Has audio: I'd love some additional context on this one
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Nov 12, 2019 01:35
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FBS posted:I'd love some additional context on this one https://onemileatatime.com/american-eagle-plane-skids-off-runway/
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FBS posted:I'd love some additional context on this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7LY46fyRVQ&t=5s
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Nov 12, 2019 01:51
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Surprised that doesn't happen a lot more often.
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ewe2 posted:Surprised that doesn't happen a lot more often. When airplanes are going fast on a runway its the rudder that mainly controls direction and that isn't affected by ice/snow. However if you were to for some reason lose traction and had reduced rudder authority for whatever reason something like that can happen. A delta MD-88 slid off a runway at LGA a few years ago on a snow covered runway. In that case the lack of rudder authority was due to excessive reverse thrust being applied.
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I was researching my next post, and I became aware one of the books I was using was older than I thought when it referred to the R100 as current (so 1929-1930) I've also become aware the last chapter on transatlantic flight is a "what next" chapter with drawings of mid-ocean airfields being built on oil rig type structures One more thing:  This is the Fairey Hendon. APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREH---- [closes browser]
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hobbesmaster posted:When airplanes are going fast on a runway its the rudder that mainly controls direction and that isn't affected by ice/snow. However if you were to for some reason lose traction and had reduced rudder authority for whatever reason something like that can happen. A delta MD-88 slid off a runway at LGA a few years ago on a snow covered runway. In that case the lack of rudder authority was due to excessive reverse thrust being applied. Looks like it was an ERJ 145, so I'm wondering if it could be the same reason due to the placement of the engines.
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bull3964 posted:Looks like it was an ERJ 145, so I'm wondering if it could be the same reason due to the placement of the engines. To quote an airline pilot from the A/T thread: KodiakRS posted:Maybe. From what I remember though the md80 is overly susceptible to it, even more than other t-tail aft mounted engine aircraft. Something about having overly strong reversers for powerbacks. Also on closer inspection the spoilers were deployed but it's hard to see, watch the bottom right corner of the video and you can see them retract right as the aircraft starts to spin. On a semi-related note I was trying to look up if the 145 has a history of rudder blanking and I came across a very
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Cross post from the pilot thread Jerry at it again with an amazing approach into Sac Exec.  Skip to 23:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tYjSJfqq14 I can’t wait to see his inevitable crash from a half dozen different angles in glorious full HD. “Whoops overshot a little” - Jerry 
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It’s 2019. They’re not really crimes if you document them yourself.
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it appears to me that the pilot tried to steer in to the taxiway at too high a speed for conditions
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e.pilot posted:Cross post from the pilot thread "It's a little harder to short approach to the right cause you can't see it as much"  e:  
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:it appears to me that the pilot tried to steer in to the taxiway at too high a speed for conditions But he's saving brakes and tires! Sheesh!
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 Jerry, no!!!!! Jealous Cow fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Nov 12, 2019 |
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Nov 12, 2019 14:42
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Jealous Cow posted:
The Shortest Final
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Nov 12, 2019 14:56
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Jerry flies for real how I fly in flight simulators.
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Lightbulb Out posted:Jerry flies for real how I fly in flight simulators. That's what I was thinking - his "whoops overshot a little...!" is like my first goes at landing at Meigs Field in MSFS 5.0.
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air jerry has like literally hundreds of videos and nearly 10,000 subscribers for some baffling reason so i can't find the one i'm looking for at the moment, but can someone post the one where he's completely socked in on approach, ignores his GPWS calling "minimums," and pops out of the clouds at like 150' AGL three wingspans off the left side of the runway in a 30 degree bank and still wrestles it to the ground with a passenger on board
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Nov 12, 2019 23:08
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Sagebrush posted:nearly 10,000 subscribers for some baffling reason Everyone rubbernecks a house fire.
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I'm a non-expert lurker so forgive me for asking, but is there a good written summary of Jerry? I gather that he's a really horrible pilot with an inexplicable following, but I'd like to know more.
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:I'm a non-expert lurker so forgive me for asking, but is there a good written summary of Jerry? I gather that he's a really horrible pilot with an inexplicable following, but I'd like to know more. No you've basically got it.
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:I'm a non-expert lurker so forgive me for asking, but is there a good written summary of Jerry? I gather that he's a really horrible pilot with an inexplicable following, but I'd like to know more. The following is actually pretty explicable. He has a fancy plane, posts lots of videos of him doing really dumb stuff and gets extremely not mad in the comments of videos. r/flying has been watching him for a while, there was a post a while ago that summarized all the dumb things hes done and posted but I can't find it at the moment. Heres a still from one of his videos that should say everything though, and the 2nd post in the thread is from an FAA employee: https://www.reddit.com/r/flying/comments/bzgsls/jerry_and_air_wagner_at_it_again/
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A really horrible pilot who continues being a really horrible pilot because it gets him more clicks and followers. It's a perfect storm of  .
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Sagebrush posted:air jerry has like literally hundreds of videos and nearly 10,000 subscribers for some baffling reason so i can't find the one i'm looking for at the moment, but lol he actually deleted that one, it took me a while to find the mirror Skip to 7:02 https://streamable.com/usuwo Search his name on r/flying, there are multiple threads over the months just absolutely dunking on him, it's the best. hobbesmaster posted:The following is actually pretty explicable. He has a fancy plane, posts lots of videos of him doing really dumb stuff and gets extremely not mad in the comments of videos. that's my favorite jerry vid to dateI'm subscribed to him for the lols. He's going to crash, not if but when. And if he manages to take out a few innocent bystanders when he does and the news outlets get wind of how long this behavior has been going on and how long people have been trying to get the FAA to ground him, it'll be a poo poo show. e.pilot fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Nov 13, 2019 |
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Carth Dookie posted:No you've basically got it. Lol. hobbesmaster posted:The following is actually pretty explicable. He has a fancy plane, posts lots of videos of him doing really dumb stuff and gets extremely not mad in the comments of videos. e.pilot posted:lol he actually deleted that one, it took me a while to find the mirror Thanks.
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:I'm a non-expert lurker so forgive me for asking, but is there a good written summary of Jerry? I gather that he's a really horrible pilot with an inexplicable following, but I'd like to know more. He's a procrastinating dead man and possible murderer.
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e.pilot posted:Skip to 7:02 I just got around to watching this. Holy poo poo. I mean, I don't know anything about flying an airplane but when he came out of the fog it looked like he was going straight into the ground. Edit: Oh my god, he buzzed the Bay Bridge. Mr. Funny Pants fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Nov 13, 2019 |
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Nov 13, 2019 03:44
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e.pilot posted:And if he manages to take out a few innocent bystanders when he does and the news outlets get wind of how long this behavior has been going on and how long people have been trying to get the FAA to ground him, it'll be a poo poo show. This is on-brand for the FAA though. Self-regulation and all that.
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No Jerries in this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb3UOzc5bew
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:looked like he was going straight into the ground. He was. If you zoom in you can see the vertical speed indicator bug off scale low.
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