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Fast Luck posted:I just can't believe after 13 successful years in power, Evo wasn’t successful in forming an ideologically strong component in the military to stand up to this bullshit. He founded the “School of Anti-Imperialism,” how is there no armed faction declaring loyalty to the elected ruling government? This is so drat depressing, hats off to Maduro though for finding a way. this is what happens when a social democrat calls themselves a socialist
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i mean say what you want about stalin at least he purged the military of reactionaries and aristos
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Fast Luck posted:I just can't believe after 13 successful years in power, Evo wasn’t successful in forming an ideologically strong component in the military to stand up to this bullshit. He founded the “School of Anti-Imperialism,” how is there no armed faction declaring loyalty to the elected ruling government? This is so drat depressing, hats off to Maduro though for finding a way. all power is ultimate armed force, and Evo ignored that fact for reasons i would very much like to hear
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Al! posted:i mean say what you want about stalin at least he purged the military of reactionaries and aristos err... nah that was good and done by the time lenin was dead mate
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Western media ramped up in calling him undemocratic since the supreme court decision. The bullshit climate protests and the media coverage was another sign.
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The climate poo poo was insane because there was a story here that broke out that the fires were literally started in Brazil by pro-bolsonaro farmers.
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Plutonis posted:The climate poo poo was insane because there was a story here that broke out that the fires were literally started in Brazil by pro-bolsonaro farmers. Even if they weren't started by Brazil, a poor country like Bolivia literally could not curb the thousands upon thousands of fires across 1/3rd of its land mass.
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WaPo: The only thing worse than a socialist movement? A people's movement.
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https://twitter.com/evoespueblo/status/1194345391728320513 Evo says Mexico saved his life because the golpistas offered one of his guards $50,000 to turn him in.
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Frijolero posted:https://twitter.com/evoespueblo/status/1194345391728320513 weird that they'd offer it in us currency. oh well, better not think too hard about that
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Kurnugia posted:err... nah that was good and done by the time lenin was dead mate depends on what he means, they were relying on tsarist officers for a long rear end time
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Kurnugia posted:all power is ultimate armed force, and Evo ignored that fact for reasons i would very much like to hear
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:When the revolution comes, the commentariat will be first against the wall. 
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Homeless Friend posted:depends on what he means, they were relying on tsarist officers for a long rear end time yes, this is exactly what i meant ha ha
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i should have probably figured out that the army was purged under lenin based on the hearts of iron 4 national focus tree
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Al! posted:weird that they'd offer it in us currency. oh well, better not think too hard about that The CIA has satellite technology that orbital drops a leather suitcase filled with unmarked $50,000 cash anywhere on earth.
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50k feels a bit tight-fisted for a very risky betrayal like, at least make the offer 'you will never have to work again'-type money
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Frijolero posted:I basically follow Mexican officials on twitter and read their poo poo. Since Goobusters didn't specify that it has to be online, I'll add that the print edition of Proceso is good. It has lots of high quality in-depth stuff. Their web site is more brief, but it's not atrocious like certain other publications. https://www.proceso.com.mx/
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:they're going to murder tens of thousands of people and the world will never really know the extent of it not just that, they'll be celebrated as the people who brought back democracy to bolivia
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:When the revolution comes, the commentariat will be first against the wall. God willing.
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Fast Luck posted:Fascist cops and coup leaders are tearing down the indigenous flag and rounding up the poor. Basically the entire MAS party has had to flee and claim asylum for their own safety. This is a party, mind you, that had a strong democratic majority; that is supported by over half the populace. How will the coup government rule? Thousands if not tens of thousands are going to be killed, with ten times that number becoming refugees. I hope the liberals wringing their hands about the supreme court’s abolition of term limits come to reckon with this reality. It’s seriously distressing to consider the reality of the tragedy we are seeing unfold.
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Submitting my piece to the NYT on how the Business Plot was correct in trying to oust a 4th term regime with authoritarian tendencies. I expect to get six figures for this.
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Frijolero posted:Submitting my piece to the NYT on how the Business Plot was correct in trying to oust a 4th term regime with authoritarian tendencies. I expect to get six figures for this. the business plot was good because it had the word "business" in the title and businessmen know what's what
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I mean the NYTs would go all in on a business plot if needed so this isn’t the gotcha ya think it is
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Condiv posted:wow these opposition supporters are very woke people oh, come on. this post has to be very old *clicks through. november, two thousand nineteen 
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean the NYTs would go all in on a business plot if needed so this isn’t the gotcha ya think it is im actually curious to know whether the nytimes either handwaved away or condoned the business plot now, anyone have ny times archive access?
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zegermans posted:what the gently caress is the Human Rights Foundation, I've never heard of them before, are they trying to be a more right-wing Human Rights Council while co-opting the name to confuse people? dime store version of human rights watch. offbrand NGO spooks and agitators
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zegermans posted:what the gently caress is the Human Rights Foundation, I've never heard of them before, are they trying to be a more right-wing Human Rights Council while co-opting the name to confuse people? one of a hundred of the various state department-funded non-profits that only exists to launder fascist regime change operations through a handful of rich white people wringing their hands about authoritarianism
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zegermans posted:what the gently caress is the Human Rights Foundation, I've never heard of them before, are they trying to be a more right-wing Human Rights Council while co-opting the name to confuse people? they're one of the fake human rights orgs that make up the imperialist regime change cottage industry
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Fast Luck posted:Fascist cops and coup leaders are tearing down the indigenous flag and rounding up the poor. Basically the entire MAS party has had to flee and claim asylum for their own safety. This is a party, mind you, that had a strong democratic majority; that is supported by over half the populace. How will the coup government rule? Thousands if not tens of thousands are going to be killed, with ten times that number becoming refugees. I hope the liberals wringing their hands about the supreme court’s abolition of term limits come to reckon with this reality. It’s seriously distressing to consider the reality of the tragedy we are seeing unfold. its cool how even taking all the claims of fraud at 100% face value morales still won like 40%+ of the vote and a clear plurality
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StashAugustine posted:its cool how even taking all the claims of fraud at 100% face value morales still won like 40%+ of the vote and a clear plurality yeah even if the opposition were right, all it would mean is that morales' margin of victory was small enough to have a runoff vote, that morales would most likely win like literally their "dispute" started out as "sure he won but he didn't win by enough to avoid a runoff" and escalated into a military coup and death squads rounding up indigenous people to preserve freedom and democracy
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zegermans posted:what the gently caress is the Human Rights Foundation, I've never heard of them before, are they trying to be a more right-wing Human Rights Council while co-opting the name to confuse people? human rights org specifically for the germanic latino
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vyelkin posted:yeah even if the opposition were right, all it would mean is that morales' margin of victory was small enough to have a runoff vote, that morales would most likely win i would certainly advocate the same happen to the united states if we had similar events of a president running for a 4th term or accusations of electoral fraud
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