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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:I just have to point out how loving gullible the lot of you are for not even interrogating the possibility that these sex workers who make it known how much they love their job might need to say so to keep traffic up and keep their job, or like many abused women are completely in denial about their abuse and simply have a warped sense of what's healthy due to the need to survive that abuse. In which case, if we cannot believe that people are saying anything, should we also not doubt your own commitment to what you say you believe? Why is it that we have to inherently trust what you say and inherently distrust everything other people say that conflicts with your views as it were?
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:I just have to point out how loving gullible the lot of you are for not even interrogating the possibility that these sex workers who make it known how much they love their job might need to say so to keep traffic up and keep their job, or like many abused women are completely in denial about their abuse and simply have a warped sense of what's healthy due to the need to survive that abuse. i am sympathetic to what you are saying! it was me who triggered this after all i agree completely with this too, and also idk how empowering a job is if your ability to flourish in that job depends entirely on flukes of genetics and symmetry and the moment a sw decides to get a different hairstyle or put on a little weight over christmas, suddenly they might not be able to make rent anymore, because men will no longer want to buy access to their bodies
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Josef bugman posted:In which case, if we cannot believe that people are saying anything, should we also not doubt your own commitment to what you say you believe? Yes! Why wouldn't you interrogate my motivations for my ideas?
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:This was bad actually. No one ever mentions the soldiers those students lit on fire before they were fired on. gently caress em. CIA colour revolution shits. Anyone who honestly thinks China wouldn't be a third world country carved into petty fiefdoms beholden to the US if China hadn't acted as they did is completely ignorant of history. Stanning for the massacre of students at Tiananmen is a spicy hot take there pal. User loses posting privileges for 1 week.
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Yes! Why wouldn't you interrogate my motivations for my ideas? Because you tried to claim earlier that your own views are based in second hand experience, whereas the other peoples is based in first hand experience. Now you could argue that "They don't understand what they are saying", but can't I then say that you don't know that either?
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Today in UKMT, solipsism!
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Josef bugman posted:Because you tried to claim earlier that your own views are based in second hand experience, whereas the other peoples is based in first hand experience. And they are? Like I'm not seeing what the conflict is here. I'm not saying no one could possibly like sex work. I'm saying the motivations for some people advertising their stance might be due to their circumstances. I have less of a direct need to convince you that I'm correct than someone whose survival is contingent on you believing them. WhiskeyWhiskers fucked around with this message at 13:20 on Nov 13, 2019 |
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David Gauke: https://twitter.com/MatthewGreen02/status/1194571271583010817 Lib Dems: https://twitter.com/LibDems/status/1194581970023571456 Also Lib Dems: https://twitter.com/Laura_K_Hughes/status/1194586272855187458
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there's a good analogy to be made between pro wrestling and sex work actually, come to think about it. not doing irony, they genuinely have quite a lot in common.
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Nov 13, 2019 13:21
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Good posts all, thank you. Once the MSc is done I'll brush off one of my old projects and turn it into something usable. It's relieving to hear that I probably wouldn't get HackerRanked in an beginner's interview because I've never found any problems that make me feel so absolutely incompetent and useless as some of those. Might post about this stuff on the discord some Actually, one question (bit out of left field) - do programmers have much familiarity with philosophy of technology stuff? Seems like on my various courses it never got touched on, guessing that's common? It's been a real eye-opener looking at some of the critiques.
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Overminty posted:My favourite part is the republic of london not including most of the dot representing london. Nor shall my Sword sleep in my hand: Till we have built Jerusalem, In England's green & pleasant Land.  gh0stpinballa posted:probably worth cross posting this, cos given whats just happened in bolivia and the credible threats made against corbyn by the CIA and US state department, i genuinely think he should 180 on nukes and amp up what a maniac he is now about them. there is a reason they won't do more than send strongly worded tweets in north korea's direction you know?  WhiskeyWhiskers posted:I just have to point out how loving gullible the lot of you are for not even interrogating the possibility that these sex workers who make it known how much they love their job might need to say so to keep traffic up and keep their job, or like many abused women are completely in denial about their abuse and simply have a warped sense of what's healthy due to the need to survive that abuse. You don't get that by abolishing one part of it. WhiskeyWhiskers posted:I'm not against the abolition of work (provided it's abolished in the third world long before the core), it's just a very long process and not necessary for the abolition of sex work. gh0stpinballa posted:there's a good analogy to be made between pro wrestling and sex work actually, come to think about it. not doing irony, they genuinely have quite a lot in common.
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CGI Stardust posted:Actually, one question (bit out of left field) - do programmers have much familiarity with philosophy of technology stuff?
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thought so  psa: lads n lasses n others, please look into things outside your immediate technical competence, it's good for your brain
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:And they are? Like I'm not seeing what the conflict is here. Its you going "Well they are lying" about someone's statements that contradict your world view whilst also going "well they are telling the truth" when it backs up your own. It might very well be due to that, but surely that is an arguement about everyone talking about how "great" their work is, you can just assume it's bunkum and inherently exploitative, but that calls for work to be gotten rid of.
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has the thread had a laugh about Rob Flello, a right wing former labour MP who left the party because of Corbynite oppression, and who was selected then immediately de-selected as Lib Dem candidate? https://twitter.com/SOPH_C_/status/1194337129108664320
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Guavanaut posted:Yeah sports in general is filled with...exploitation yes! and with pw and sw specifically there are many parallels: industries that require most be independent contractors and generally have a certain look and be able to convincingly simulate reality, can cajole and coerce workers into horribly dangerous situations on threat of material deprivation, and make very little provisions for what happens to workers who get hurt, or don't make it due to a lack of ability, crowd response, etc, and are then cut loose without any safety net. some reach a level where they can dictate terms to bosses and protect their spot, but like any industry it requires burying your rivals to move up the ladder. and because they're the ones you hear about, cos they draw business, it creates a possibly misleading view of what is really happening behind the scenes, off camera. there's also a lot of pressure on performers not to "expose the business" and due to physical and emotional trauma and the simulated reality and obsession with aesthetics etc people can end up with addiction and mental health issues. divergence occurs when you factor in stuff like trafficking, slavery, cp, etc but otherwise it's quite a useful comparison.
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Barry Foster posted:The interviewer could've asked for a good cake recipe and Gove would have given the exact same line back to him Lots of powdered sugar!  *sniff*
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Tesseraction posted:We get rid of pissflaps and gained something worse. Yeah didn't expect to see SWERF poo poo in here but there we are
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https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bradley-stoke-landlord-tom-aditya-3530743 Bradley Stoke mayor 'was awful landlord' and says he can't afford debt to ex-tenants quote:The mayor of Bradley Stoke is yet to pay his former tenants a debt of almost £4,000 – despite a court ordering this nine months ago. 
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gh0stpinballa posted:that might have been me, sorry it's just how i feel One of them also said pickled onion was the best monster munch so you’re off the hook for now Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/RaynerSkyNews/status/1194572882644480001 Severe divorced dad energy E: ^ lmao
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mfcrocker posted:Yeah didn't expect to see SWERF poo poo in here but there we are can't speak for the other person but i don't believe i've said anything exclusionary at all, we're discussing a topic while being respectful. anyway i think the pro wrestling analogy is a good one and you should use it next time you encounter actual swerfs.
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gh0stpinballa posted:can't speak for the other person but i don't believe i've said anything exclusionary at all, we're discussing a topic while being respectful. you are from a forum that apparently called us all lib dems though
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Josef bugman posted:Its you going "Well they are lying" about someone's statements that contradict your world view whilst also going "well they are telling the truth" when it backs up your own. It's a measure of probabilities. Are ex sex workers who have no reason to lie about the abuse they faced in the industry more likely telling the truth than people still in the industry who, especially if they're trying to appeal to a more socially conscious part of the market, require clients to be interested and not thinking about the darker side of the industry to keep up demand? I understand the exploitation of my job, earning 5 cents to the dollar for the work I do, but it isn't remotely similar to the exploitation of sex work. All work under capitalism is coerced, but coerced work is not rape. Coerced sex on the other hand.
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/RaynerSkyNews/status/1194572882644480001 Oh no, Corbyn's lost the racist gobshite vote!
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Jose posted:you are from a forum that apparently called us all lib dems though they're crazy af MLs over there i had to fit in!
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gh0stpinballa posted:they're crazy af MLs over there i had to fit in! so what you're saying is i should register and call everyone trots
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Wales and Scotland aren't nations, no. You're all British. You all share a common economic life, a common national language and a national character. Next you're going to pretend Cornwall's a nation. The way this argument scans, you are also calling for a renunification of Great Britain and Ireland then? 95% of us here speak English and we have a similar economic life. This argument can be expanded in any way. United Kingdom of Great Britain and the United States, because both speak English and have similar economies. What are you even on about?
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Jose posted:so what you're saying is i should register and call everyone trots there are some weird "centrist socialist" types (or trots i guess), who do that thing where they go i love socialism i just don't like corbyn, you know? etc. so yeah, do it!
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Here's his church, might send him an enquiry about where in the bible it said you should make Islamophobic comments. http://www.scotstounparishchurch.co.uk/ hahahaha
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