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White people in america just don't understand what white people in the global south have to do in order to live "normal" white people lives
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Asking "What about the democratic will of people who weren't born into aristocratic lineages?" is a very clear case of whataboutism.
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Nov 13, 2019 23:20
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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:White people in america just don't understand what white people in the global south have to do in order to live "normal" white people lives
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Nov 13, 2019 23:29
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sleeptalker posted:This Twitter thread's been posted a few times I think: Thank you. I haag missed that and it was very helpful.
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Nov 13, 2019 23:33
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Cerebral Bore posted:as if they wouldn't just say that the victims deserved it for breaking the law or something they ignored the will of the people and voted for the wrong guy!
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Nov 13, 2019 23:44
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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:White people in america just don't understand what white people in the global south have to do in order to live "normal" white people lives
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Nov 13, 2019 23:44
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comedyblissoption posted:why wouldnt you like make it a top priority to purge these literal graduates from the coup-training university from the military or law enforcement lmao Have you considered that the Americans can steal all your poo poo, stop you from importing medicine and fuel, or just straight up murder your dudes if you are a dictator? You become a dictator by violating the spirit of the constitution that states that all the trained torturers need to be reappointed. Might be a problem for tomorrow since today you have schools and hospitals to build.
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Nov 13, 2019 23:49
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comedyblissoption posted:has anyone bothered to look at russia today suggestions and traffic compared to the other mainstream news channels before and after that memo lol. people since then have alleged google has changed their algorithms to elevate mainstream sources Current stats: RT: 3.73M subs, 2.94B views RT America: 1.03M subs, 0.48B views RT Español: 2.92M subs, 1.79B views TYT: 4.54M subs, 4.92 views MSNBC: 2.12M subs, 2.34B views CNN: 7.82M subs, 5.46B views FOX News: 3.74M subs, 2.84B views Trends: Socialblade.com has some data, paired with archive.org, shows their subscriber rank (whatever the gently caress that means) was 1.2millionth (place?) in April 2014, 3.7millionth in January 2017, and 6.8millionth today. MSNBC, 41thousandth November 2015, 15thousandth January 2017, 6thousandth today. E: there is probably a better page to view which actually lists number of subs and views over time.
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Nov 14, 2019 00:39
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genericnick posted:Have you considered that the Americans can steal all your poo poo, stop you from importing medicine and fuel, or just straight up murder your dudes if you are a dictator? You become a dictator by violating the spirit of the constitution that states that all the trained torturers need to be reappointed. Might be a problem for tomorrow since today you have schools and hospitals to build. yeah if Morales had tried to just outright purge all of these people Day 1 it would have meant the coup would have happened in 2007 instead of 2019 and he would have been even less able to resist it. Venezuela is increasingly starting to look like an outlier, no other Latin American country with an elected left-wing government has been able to gain the loyalty of the military in the same way. Not even Bolivia's attempt at ideological education really seems to have helped all that much. It remains to be seen how this develops, though. If the coup's victory looks inevitable I expect the military will mostly continue to accept the rule of the new government; if the pro-Morales faction starts looking like they might be able to mount a serious resistance you might see some defections.
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Nov 14, 2019 00:40
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i googled bolivia earlier because i was looking for a current map and the first hit was grayzone's coup article so that's good.
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Nov 14, 2019 00:48
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Truga posted:i googled bolivia earlier because i was looking for a current map and the first hit was grayzone's coup article so that's good. They probably know you're in the target demographic for Grayzone. I DDG'ed Bolivia just now and got the following sources, from top to bottom: BBC, The Nation, Reuters, Wikipedia, Lonely Planet, Tripadvisor, Wikitravel, Infoplease (?), literally the CIA, then NYT. Supposedly they don't do any tracking/targeting.
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Nov 14, 2019 00:56
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Corky Romanovsky posted:Current stats: People don't trust domestic news media anymore in the twitter era. I can open twitter and get live footage from any big event in the world and watch a billion assholes contend with what the true perspective should be, or I can turn on MSNBC and watch a capitalist snoozefest. The most popular news page with young St. Louis city kids is #REALSTLNEWS, which only broadcasts when their randos show up on facebook live to stream fires, shootings, or protests in the city. No amount of tweaking algorithms and shoving the corporate news media in front of people is going to change that fact.
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Nov 14, 2019 01:07
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has anyone floated the idea that the cia did the coup in bolivia not for lithium but to gain control over bolivian coca production to turn it over to colombian cartels, as columbia is now the main us puppet state in latin america??? if not then im floating it
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Nov 14, 2019 01:12
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Al! posted:has anyone floated the idea that the cia did the coup in bolivia not for lithium but to gain control over bolivian coca production to turn it over to colombian cartels, as columbia is now the main us puppet state in latin america??? if not then im floating it oh there's absolutely no one single reason
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Nov 14, 2019 01:16
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:People don't trust domestic news media anymore in the twitter era. I can open twitter and get live footage from any big event in the world and watch a billion assholes contend with what the true perspective should be, or I can turn on MSNBC and watch a capitalist snoozefest. Yeah the absolute worst thing about mainstream news isn't even that they're craven sellouts, but that they're so boring about it. They can arrange panels of "experts" who somehow manage to say nothing that isn't already conventional wisdom. It's a complete dearth of any insight whatsoever.
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Nov 14, 2019 01:24
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Nov 14, 2019 01:29
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lol @ the police firing teargas upwind
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Nov 14, 2019 01:30
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time for all news about Bolivia to suddenly disappear from the western press lmfao
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Nov 14, 2019 01:30
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Epic High Five posted:time for all news about Bolivia to suddenly disappear from the western press lmfao i wonder what venezuela news there is right now https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/venezuela/article237294864.html quote:At an event on Wednesday to announce the Venezuela Democracy Caucus, a new, bipartisan group in Congress, Democratic Florida Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz was harassed by a pro-Nicolás Maduro group that shouted at her, held signs in her face — and shoved her from behind. lmfao
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Nov 14, 2019 01:35
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You can tell the resistance isn't loving around when old ladies are coming out to the riots.
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Nov 14, 2019 01:41
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who the gently caress is this oval office https://twitter.com/Jake_Hanrahan/status/1194778859155140608?s=19 https://twitter.com/Jake_Hanrahan/status/1194780661384712192?s=19
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Nov 14, 2019 02:23
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I pulled back up the "no hubo golpe" page, saw that the results were only in Bolivia and Argentina, so I narrowed it down to Argentina https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&geo=AR&q=%22no%20hubo%20golpe%22 and then looked up what the June 2019 spike was and then https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/argentinas-june-2019-blackout-what-went-wrong-carlos-st-james https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/16/world/americas/power-outage-argentina-uruguay.html LinkedIn article posted:The fact that it happened early on a Sunday morning when demand was low meant that in the end the most important thing was addressing the multiple Argentine conspiracy theories regarding which political party must have been behind this act of Election Day sabotage. (Upon hearing of the blackout, U.S. observers immediately went to their own bogeyman: it must have been a terrorist attack!) I'm not sure which election the article means by Election Day, since their general election was in October, and there's no indication that anything went on in Argentina. Assuming that nothing happened, it's still indicative that Google Trends works to capture sentiment like some people being afraid a coup is happening when there's a widespread power outage for ordinary reasons.
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Nov 14, 2019 02:28
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interestingly the guardian published an article in 2012 (before MI5 fully tamed them) where they describe how the civilians in aleppo were fighting back viciously against the turk backed salafis trying to take over key neighbourhoods. then they went silent and boom, a few years later they're reporting on the brave freedom fighters and their tweetin' kids. so if this does escalate even more we have a contemporary template for how media will cover it
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Nov 14, 2019 02:29
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Epic High Five posted:time for all news about Bolivia to suddenly disappear from the western press lmfao
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Nov 14, 2019 02:29
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Fast Luck posted:the libya playbook. im sure most people have seen it before but some people on twitter (adam johnson probably) do twitter history searches on libya on a lot of the people who supported the bombing and overthrow, and they just never mentioned it again while it turned into open slave markets It's like the Dumb and Dumber movie not listening scene. Let's gloss over inconvenient facts!
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Nov 14, 2019 02:32
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well, best be sure to make them never hear the loving end of it
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Nov 14, 2019 02:35
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The 7 people at the Grayzone are better at finding out stuff about Bolivia than the entire New York Times. https://twitter.com/BMarchetich/status/1194722376262586368?s=20 Have an incredibly blessed tweet by the way https://twitter.com/redfishstream/status/1194738138922586112?s=20
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Nov 14, 2019 02:37
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colorism is always so ugly smdh
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Nov 14, 2019 02:46
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Atrocious Joe posted:The 7 people at the Grayzone are better at finding out stuff about Bolivia than the entire New York Times. so you're saying they'll all be in prison within a year
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Nov 14, 2019 02:48
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Epic High Five posted:oh there's absolutely no one single reason Sure there is: getting rid of a socialist government Everything else is just icing on the cake. Hey everybody! I'm losing my loving mind over this story!
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Nov 14, 2019 02:56
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So the MAS legislative contingent (who, it bears noting, are a supermajority of both houses in the legislature) look like they've effectively been extralegally removed from office - not officially, but in practice they're mostly in hiding and when some of them attempted to gain access to the Senate House, the building in which they do their jobs, they were beaten by police and driven away. They were intending to convene a legislative session (which would constitutionally have quorum since, again, they constitute a supermajority by themselves) and reject Morales' resignation, but having been denied entrance to the building (because of course they were, I don't know what they were expecting), what I'm wondering now is what do they do next? They've got a large contingent of supporters out on the streets, the unions are starting a general strike tomorrow, and while many of them are in hiding the vast majority of the party's leadership and elected officials have managed to escape arrest. Do they attempt to hold an emergency session of the legislature anyway, even without being able to access the congressional building? The one thing they seem uninterested in doing is disbanding, and I'm surprised at how few of them seem to have fled (there were a few dozen MAS officials and their families who sought asylum, but that's a few dozen out of hundreds).
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gh0stpinballa posted:who the gently caress is this oval office freelance journalist / podcast / instagram guy @popular.front generally has good syria/rojava coverage but also now sort of blindly supports anyone in a black mask, i believe he's an anarchist but maybe just an anti-authoritarian swimsuit has issued a correction as of 03:19 on Nov 14, 2019 |
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Atrocious Joe posted:Have an incredibly blessed tweet by the way https://twitter.com/erikakokay/status/1194613960571527170 
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Nov 14, 2019 04:09
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Lightning Knight posted:de nada 
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Nov 14, 2019 04:10
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Lightning Knight posted:lmao extremely normal people, why does america always pick the psychos to back only psychos are willing to sell out their own country to gabacho imperialists
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Nov 14, 2019 04:48
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luv 2 support the overthrow of yet another democratically elected government by the *checks notes* trump administration liberals are gonna be fuckin floss dancin with trump on ellen to the OK Boomer song in 6 years
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Nov 14, 2019 04:48
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Al! posted:the real coup happened when frantz fanon wrote the wretched of the earth. the nazis are only trying to restore the will of the subject people to its right place
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comedyblissoption posted:liberals are gonna be fuckin floss dancin with trump on ellen to the OK Boomer song in 6 years when president josh hawley signs the citizenship protection act throwing nonwhites and jews out of the civil service ellen and co. will pine for the decorous days of the trump administration
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