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joat mon posted:Is that what used to be called a 'suspicion'? A South American government is overthrown by the military, whose leaders were trained by the FBI and at the SOTA, shortly after their duly elected president decided to socialize their mineral rights. If the CIA isn't involved, then some people at Langley are getting fired.
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Pretty good job to get the protests going two weeks before he nationalized the mine then
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hypnophant posted:Pretty good job to get the protests going two weeks before he nationalized the mine then Do you have a defense of the police not allowing legislators from the majority party to enter their capital building to vote?
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Nov 14, 2019 02:43
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hypnophant posted:Pretty good job to get the protests going two weeks before he nationalized the mine then It's not like they don't have plenty of practice in destabilizing governments.
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A Bad Poster posted:A South American government is overthrown by the military, whose leaders were trained by the FBI and at the SOTA, shortly after their duly elected president decided to socialize their mineral rights. If the CIA isn't involved, then some people at Langley are getting fired. That's a good suspicion.
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At this point it feels like Hypnophant is posting from inside the coup...
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The Andean states are restive in general right now. Ecuador's left-wing government fled the capital last month after attempting to end subsidies and implement austerity measures which caused protests. Chile's right-wing government is currently facing massive protests that started over public transit fare increases. Peru's president has dissolved the right-wing dominated congress over corruption issues with new elections in January, and has deployed the military against protesters at a Chinese-owned copper mine. There's a bunch of low-level violence in Columbia right now against local politicians due to recent elections, and (IIRC) demobbed FARC members have been forming cartels and murdering indigenous people over drug plantations while the government goes "lol whatever." And Maduro is still starving Venezuela.
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https://twitter.com/organizingpower/status/1193773026535448577?s=21 Hmm.
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Oh right almost forgot, some South Carolinian Libertarian politician showed up in Chile shooting at protesters. https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/state/south-carolina/article237279074.html
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quote:The Washington Post said Corbin “participated in the League of the South, a neo-Confederate hate group” in South Carolina before his failed congressional campaign. Im actually shocked that someone running for office who was part of a rascist hate group in the Carolinas didnt win easily
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If there is one good thing coming from the impeachment it’s that trump is occupied. Like a child.
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That is a news source I've never, ever seen before (with a .news url, which automatically trips my bullshit alarm), which has no description of itself of any kind (and which has a suspended Twitter account), in a story written by a reporter I can't find any information on, citing audio posted by a Costa Rican newspaper(?) who I also can't find any information on, outside their own website. Just because you agree with the source's conclusions doesn't mean the source isn't bullshit. E: a brief search for news sources in Costa Rica doesn't even bring up "El periodico." I can only find it by googling "elperiodicocr." Note also that the story, while cited to "El Periodico", doesn't include a link to it on "El Periodico's" website. Or even says that it came from there outside "Elvis Martinez / EP". The reader is presumably supposed to infer that from the initials and the name of the SoundCloud account. Nor is it tagged under the listed author therein: https://elperiodicocr.com/tag/elvis-martinez/ Checking "En24.news": Registry Expiration: 2020-05-21 00:05:31 UTC Updated: 2019-11-06 03:00:40 UTC Created: 2019-05-21 00:05:31 UTC Yes, clearly a completely unknown news site created 6 months ago that only reports things from other sources, completely uncited, must be trustworthy. Oh but don't worry, it's been picked up by telesur, the Venezuelan state owned outlet, so it must be true. Check your freaking sources, that's all I ask. And when in doubt, don't trust Twitter randos. Especially don't trust partisan Twitter randos. Plastic_Gargoyle fucked around with this message at 11:07 on Nov 14, 2019 |
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Don't freaking self-censor, you dingbat. I come to these forums for some authentic gutter talk. /edit: I thought for a moment that was the Eve News 24 domain and had a good laugh
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http://cepr.net/press-center/press-...-analysis-showsquote:Washington, DC ― Statistical analysis of election returns and tally sheets from Bolivia’s October 20 elections shows no evidence that irregularities or fraud affected the official result that gave President Evo Morales a first-round victory, researchers and analysts at the Center for Economic and Policy Research (CEPR) say. Contrary to a postelection narrative that was supported, without evidence, by the OAS Electoral Observation Mission, statistical analysis shows that it was predictable that Morales would obtain a first-round win, based on the results of the first 83.85 percent of votes in a rapid count that showed Morales leading runner-up Carlos Mesa by less than 10 points. And if you're saying "well the OAS said it was a sham!" the OAS has agendas of their own sometimes: quote:“We encourage anyone interested in what happened in Bolivia’s elections to do their own examination of the tally sheets and their own statistical analysis,” Long said. “Hopefully, the OAS electoral mission will do that. But we also need to remember that an OAS electoral mission overturned election results in Haiti in 2011 with no statistical or other basis for doing so.” edit: here's some info on some people who started the coup https://thegrayzone.com/2019/11/11/bolivia-coup-fascist-foreign-support-fernando-camacho/ quote:The presidential candidate Bolivia’s opposition had fielded in the October election, Carlos Mesa, is a “pro-business” privatizer with extensive ties to Washington. US government cables published by WikiLeaks reveal that he regularly corresponded with American officials in their efforts to destabilize Morales.
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Plastic_Gargoyle posted:That is a news source I've never, ever seen before (with a .news url, which automatically trips my bullshit alarm), which has no description of itself of any kind (and which has a suspended Twitter account), in a story written by a reporter I can't find any information on, citing audio posted by a Costa Rican newspaper(?) who I also can't find any information on, outside their own website. Yeah, you’re right. I should have done some work to check the source. Usually I’m pretty good about it but I was lazy this time, my bad 
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Ragaman posted:Yeah, you’re right. I should have done some work to check the source. Usually I’m pretty good about it but I was lazy this time, my bad I found an article that cited that audio recording and it was dated a day before the election even happened. Still can't find the actual audio of tbeeak yet though
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Plastic_Gargoyle posted:That is a news source I've never, ever seen before (with a .news url, which automatically trips my bullshit alarm), which has no description of itself of any kind (and which has a suspended Twitter account), in a story written by a reporter I can't find any information on, citing audio posted by a Costa Rican newspaper(?) who I also can't find any information on, outside their own website. One of the now suspended twitter accounts had a post the day before the coup saying that tomorrow there is going to be a coup, and hey, here is audio tapes of them planning a coup. Same account had like two weeks of posts saying that people were planning a coup
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M_Gargantua posted:One of the now suspended twitter accounts had a post the day before the coup saying that tomorrow there is going to be a coup, and hey, here is audio tapes of them planning a coup. Same account had like two weeks of posts saying that people were planning a coup Back during the DAPL protests, the goons dispatched to disperse the protestors rightly earned a lot of hate from folks. A number of my friends would post anything and everything they came across that fit their side of the story, including one very memorable picture of the encampment with a caption along the lines of: "THIS IS THE STRENGTH OF THE PROTEST MOVEMENT. BET THE CORPORATE MEDIA HASN'T SHOWN YOU THIS. FACEBOOK IS TRYING TO HIDE THIS POST, SHARE TO SHOW THEM THE TRUTH WINS". The picture was an aerial photo of Woodstock. See, the poster's heart was in the right place, but their bullshit sensor was all out of wack. Because of their buy-in to the cause, their brain gave a pass to anything portraying the protest in a good light and the opponents in a bad one. Fake news like that actively undermines the cause they support by making them look laughable and untrustworthy to anyone that recognizes the problem.
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I’m watching the Chairman of the Federal Reserve testifying to the House because I hate myself, and he just said he doesn’t see any bubbles happening right now or any other potential warning signs of a recession. So this is going to be fun. Time to start stockpiling beans and bullets we’ve got Depression 2.0 coming.
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Internet Wizard posted:I’m watching the Chairman of the Federal Reserve testifying to the House because I hate myself, and he just said he doesn’t see any bubbles happening right now or any other potential warning signs of a recession. They've just got to hold out another year.
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https://twitter.com/SteveKingIA/status/1194983687508676609?s=19 That's George Soros' son, who isn't even a state department employe from what I hear
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Hot Karl Marx posted:https://twitter.com/SteveKingIA/status/1194983687508676609?s=19 Is George Soros’ son also a communist nazi funding deep state initiatives? I don’t keep up on my right wing crazy.
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Prop Wash posted:https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Saugus-High-School-Shooting-Santa-Clarita-California-564919052.html Not even double-digits, yawn, boring, no pizzazz. https://twitter.com/HenryMayoHosp/status/1195016245336129536?s=19
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Oh okay, so apparently on some crazy fox dickhead show last night they had a dude on that said George Soros controls most of the state department, and most of the FBI especially their activities in Ukraine.
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Where did the Soros poo poo come from originally? InfoWars and/or Stormfront?
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If "a dude" means a member of President Trump's legal defense team, then yup. Here's some details where those anti-Semitic attacks came from. https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/dangerous-when-cornered
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If you aren't reading TPM, you should. They've got some great analysis. Including this one that just went up today that pulls a lot of the red string together. https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/the-most-pivotal-moment-in-the-trump-ukraine-scandal-timeline quote:The crucial piece in understanding the Ukraine scandal is that two months before Zelensky won power – in February 2019 – Trump thought that he had done a deal which would transform Ukraine into a domestic political bludgeon.
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A Bad Poster posted:Where did the Soros poo poo come from originally? InfoWars and/or Stormfront? Being a billionaire funding political organizations is ok if you're republican, but if you're a democrat you're plotting the rise of the new world order.
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A Bad Poster posted:Where did the Soros poo poo come from originally? InfoWars and/or Stormfront? Soros has been slagged off in the British press since 1992 when we had a huge economic crash, he made a bunch of cash betting against our government on the money markets. Which was entirely the governments fault, but I bet there's rather a large amount of racist British people that think a jew made it happen. Our press is so loving antisemitic I can't even joke about it.
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Hexyflexy posted:Soros has been slagged off in the British press since 1992 when we had a huge economic crash, he made a bunch of cash betting against our government on the money markets. Which was entirely the governments fault, but I bet there's rather a large amount of racist British people that think a jew made it happen. Our press is so loving antisemitic I can't even joke about it. Wow I can't believe the labour party owns all the British media
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Hot Karl Marx posted:Wow I can't believe the labour party owns all the British media Watching them pull that on the labour party while being so antisemitic themselves is so insane it's pretty much exploded my irony fuse.
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speaking of labour... Boris Johnson Is Not Britain’s Donald Trump. Jeremy Corbyn Is.
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Slim Pickens posted:Being a billionaire funding political organizations is ok if you're republican, but if you're a democrat you're plotting the rise of the new world order. He’s also Jewish, which I imagine has a lot to do with it.
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Hot Karl Marx posted:speaking of labour... Lol, yes this ostrich and this sparrow are exactly the same thing because they have feathers and wings.
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The 1st time I remember hearing about Soros related crap was on Drudge Report circa 2001-2002 or so. Maybe Rush Limbaugh was running with that too but I never listened to him once I stopped working in my dads shop after going to college.
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