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Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


Bobby Deluxe posted:

My friend who regularly programs stuff in Java both for work and hobby projects said Unreal is mostly Java. As for Unity, the documentation has (or had two years ago) the option to view examples in c# and java, and when creating code blocks the dropdown lets you do it in C# or Java (although I might be misremembering and it's actually JS, which I know is a distant bastard cousin).

Yeah that's JavaScript not Java, which is, uhh, a very significant difference. They're not really close cousins except in sofar as Microsoft named it JS because they saw what Java did with applet webapges and wantes to get in on that.

And while it's possible to use JS scripts in unity C# will be faster.

And then there's

quote:

My understanding is that you can't hit the "Create Script" button and select it anymore, but if you have js files, or create new ones, it will still compile them - this is gonna go away eventually though (if it hasn't already and I just didn't read about it) so my advice is do not depend on js files, and don't make new projects that use js. Your apparently a part of the dwindling 3 percent or so of projects that actually don't entirely depend on C# - and I strongly recommend you jump ship and start converting that code to C# because unityscript is done for.

With that said, yeah just try and load the scripts up, they probably still work.

So uhh, yeah, no, I wouldn't rely on that.

As far as unreal goes I genuinely have no idea what's that about, never used it myself.

e:
Perhaps amusingly, C# and Java are actually close cousins in many ways, certainly moreso than JS is to either.

Also amusingly, C# is also a Microsoft thing, and in fact is Microsoft trying to copy a lot of things from Java, unlike with JavaScript which is it's own thing that has more in common with something like PHP (serverside vs. clientside notwithstanding).

anyway I need to sleep sorry for the wordy derail

Private Speech fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Nov 14, 2019

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PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Another Canadian question about y'all's electoral system: do they not let you register to vote day of? Because not allowing that seems like a scam and a half, is it a recent Tory 'fraud prevention' measure?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

No you have to register a few weeks in advance and it's been like that for as long as I'm aware.

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
4 weeks and then we can shut up about polls

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

big scary monsters posted:

"A bit cheeky?" loving hell. I hope they've started googling "tenant's rights" and "computer misuse act" with the VPN off.

It's a private network for the purposes of IPA so he's not wrong to say it's not illegal, although he immediately gets into massive poo poo if he actually uses the data for almost any purpose.

Also if he is claiming it's a private network he also could be jointly liable if they *do* use the connection for anything illegal.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

Azza Bamboo posted:

4 weeks and then we can shut up about polls

This thread will never shut up about polls

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets
When all you have are the entrails of chickens filtered through the ideals of old men, you make do.

Sanford
Jun 30, 2007

...and rarely post!


Check how much this pig looks like boris

Only registered members can see post attachments!

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

I eat your face

Sanford posted:

Check how much this pig looks like boris



Holy poo poo. Slap a wig on it and I defy anyone to tell them apart.

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

OwlFancier posted:

No you have to register a few weeks in advance and it's been like that for as long as I'm aware.

Huh. Now I'm really curious how we got our system. Here they try and register everybody just to speed things along, but if you show up unregistered they'll add you to the rolls as long as you can produce two peices of ID that says you live in the riding (which includes utility bills and such), or any registered elector who will swear an oath that you live in the riding. It might be my favorite goofy thing about our electoral system.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.


BBC just casually alluding to Corbyn being Mao there on the front page, no big deal

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Well it's not my stance, sending the tanks in to stop pogroms in Hungary was cool and good. But it was Khrushchev, not Stalin so it's a bit odd to attribute it to people who think Khrushchev was a lying revisionist who ultimately destroyed the USSR and the socialist camp. Which he was.

And yes, that's literally what they were doing until Andropov, who was in Hungary at the time, managed to contact them and explain the situation on the ground and why it was a fascist uprising that needed to be crushed.

So, just to be clear,

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Nationalism is a useful tool in the fight against white supremacy, colonialism and imperialism.

Doesn't count when you're nationalists trying to fight against Soviet colonialism and imperialism?

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Vitamin P posted:

"it was inspiring threats" okay oval office tell us what threats it inspired

Edit can't be arsed the conversation goes;

Vitamin P (brave, handsome): what actual harm did it do or lets be generous reasonably could possibly do?
Coohoolin (covered in a weird sort of slime): it would normalise offensive language, and so could normalise the ideas that language contains
VP: thats a massive hypothetical and you shouldn't be actively against free speech on that weak grounds, the criminalisation of speech could easily spread to the left
C: I'm a dump baby you're a racist something something Braveheart

Spouting nazi bullshit is incitement to violence against Jews and always has been you dingus. There's no ironic racism, and while you shouldn't get locked up for being racist, nazism is slightly different because the ideology actively encourages violence against Jews and other minorities. It's a core tenent of it and so all nazi hate speech is incitement to violence when done publicly.

OwlFancier posted:

Sea's the means of porpduction?

Will you motherfuckers ever let me live down a single spelling mistake? English isn't my first language and this is antisemitism!!

Surprise T Rex
Apr 9, 2008

Dinosaur Gum

Bobby Deluxe posted:

My friend who regularly programs stuff in Java both for work and hobby projects said Unreal is mostly Java. As for Unity, the documentation has (or had two years ago) the option to view examples in c# and java, and when creating code blocks the dropdown lets you do it in C# or Java (although I might be misremembering and it's actually JS, which I know is a distant bastard cousin). .

Yeah as Private Speech says, in Unity that's Javascript (or more accurately, UnityScript), which is no longer officially supported by Unity. As for Unreal, I wasn't aware of any way to write code in either JS or Java for that - officially I think it only supports C++ and Blueprint which is a kind of visual coding language.

C# and Unity is a great combo for making games because it does a lot of the complicated stuff for you, but it can be a bit weird to get used to the workflow at first. Lua and LOVE2D is also a good shout if you want something super lightweight and easy to get to grips with, Lua is a very simple language, although in many ways not very similar to other languages you might want to learn later.

Check out the Making Games thread (plus its Discord) and the related-but-more-technical Game Development thread for a lot of helpful info.

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

I eat your face

Miftan posted:

Will you motherfuckers ever let me live down a single spelling mistake? English isn't my first language and this is antisemitism!!


:smuggo:

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Miftan posted:

Spouting nazi bullshit is incitement to violence against Jews and always has been you dingus. There's no ironic racism, and while you shouldn't get locked up for being racist, nazism is slightly different because the ideology actively encourages violence against Jews and other minorities. It's a core tenent of it and so all nazi hate speech is incitement to violence when done publicly.
The big thing that YouTube did wrong is leaping on "Sieg Heil :newlol: Gas Jews :newlol: could you imagine rite?" by DankLaughsMan while completely ignoring "a measured discussion of why the Semitic peoples are unfit for inclusion in White societies and must be removed by any means necessary" by OdinNationalistSkullMan88 because they didn't say the bad words.

Also they have a long habit of going after anti-Nazi videos for including Nazi symbols (because of course they do) while ignoring Nazi videos that use different symbols like Ok sign or milk or gay frogs.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



It's always okay to punch Tim Farron.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...


gently caress you :smugdog:

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Guavanaut posted:

The big thing that YouTube did wrong is leaping on "Sieg Heil :newlol: Gas Jews :newlol: could you imagine rite?" by DankLaughsMan while completely ignoring "a measured discussion of why the Semitic peoples are unfit for inclusion in White societies and must be removed by any means necessary" by OdinNationalistSkullMan88 because they didn't say the bad words.

Also they have a long habit of going after anti-Nazi videos for including Nazi symbols (because of course they do) while ignoring Nazi videos that use different symbols like Ok sign or milk or gay frogs.

It's liberalism 101 though, banning superficially bad things because it's much easier and makes them feel/look bad while promoting really bad things as long as they fit within :decorum:

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:



BBC just casually alluding to Corbyn being Mao there on the front page, no big deal
[screaming into a dozen blankets and pillows] He's not radical! He's your best chance at maintaining a stable capitalism through mixed-economy social democratic reforms! You absolute idiots WHY ARE YOU SO BAD AT THIS?? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009
Just wind and rain for me, anyone got snow?

https://twitter.com/msn_today/status/1194887597421711360

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund


This looks like a great series!

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Ms Adequate posted:

So, just to be clear,


Doesn't count when you're nationalists trying to fight against Soviet colonialism and imperialism?

There wasn't any Soviet colonialism or imperialism, so no. And rounding up and killing Jews and Roma because they were seen to be (and likely were) supportive of the communists for destroying the Hitlerite Horthi regime isn't good. hth.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

This title contains sponsored content.

Tesseraction posted:

whomst of you



Unclear if this passes the sniff test. Search query URLs will be over HTTPS so Mr Invasive Landlord should only be seeing encrypted data with or without the VPN. He could be logging DNS requests or access to blocked IPs, but that's a bit different.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Miftan posted:

It's liberalism 101 though, banning superficially bad things because it's much easier and makes them feel/look bad while promoting really bad things as long as they fit within :decorum:
That's the one frea speach argument that I respect, that under liberalism if you're going to ban "White Power!" then you'll also ban "Black Power!" because liberals are incapable of looking at context or history, and because of that context and history the "White Power!" lot will have more money and social cachet to wriggle around bans than the "Black Power!" people and so will end up benefiting from crackdowns on free speech on liberal capitalist platforms.

Of course this is more an argument against over-reliance on liberal capitalist platforms than an argument for unmoderated free speech.

Jippa posted:

Just wind and rain for me, anyone got snow?

https://twitter.com/msn_today/status/1194887597421711360
Midsomer is a fictional county, they can have whatever weather they like.

Josef bugman posted:



This looks like a great series!
Red Ed Redemption.

josh04 posted:

Unclear if this passes the sniff test. Search query URLs will be over HTTPS so Mr Invasive Landlord should only be seeing encrypted data with or without the VPN. He could be logging DNS requests or access to blocked IPs, but that's a bit different.
There's a big push for DNS over HTTPS now too, governments (and lovely (which is all) landlords) hate it!

Aphex-
Jan 29, 2006

Dinosaur Gum
It was snowing on my way into Bristol this morning but it's too warm for it to settle so it's just wet now.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Private Speech posted:

This reminds me, my landlord forces an adult filter on me too (internet included in the bills/rent). Except he's clueless about technology so I VPN to my VPS and that's that. Frankly I'm curious how he found out, not that it's difficult if you know your way around wireshark or tcpdump, but it seems a bit beyond your average copper.

E:
^^^
I don't see how he could break into the computers, that actually is quite hard even when controlling the local network. Sounds more like his wifi sniffer software is not picking up DNS request packets due to the VPN and he wants to stop that and isn't aware of how incognito mode works.

Also frankly I'm not sure if capturing traffic on your own wifi is illegal.

Have you thought about getting one of these home broadband 4G/5G things - I was looking at it for my move - three are doing unlimited home broadband 4G for £25 per month for a 24 month contract (and so long as there's a service if/when you move you can just take it with you). I use a three MiFi and it's great especially when travelling around UK, no cafe or travelodge wifi necessary.
Only reason I haven't take it up now is because my electricity provider offered me a deal for 18 months of £13pm for 38Mbps including the phone line rental. But I still might if the electricity deal ends up being shite.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

There wasn't any Soviet colonialism or imperialism, so no. And rounding up and killing Jews and Roma because they were seen to be (and likely were) supportive of the communists for destroying the Hitlerite Horthi regime isn't good. hth.

loooooooool alright dude

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Guavanaut posted:


Red Ed Redemption.


:hmmyes:

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
Landlord Wi-Fi chat: couldn't the tenant just claim he works from home and his business requires a VPN to access business servers? I think that's what i would say, right before resuming my torrenting and porn

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

jabby posted:

I'd be remiss not to say that the correct order is to see your GP, tell them what you intend to do and then start tapering off your meds. Even if you worry they'll try to convince you not to/tell you it's a terrible idea, you're the boss when it comes to your own health. But they need to know in advance so they can give you any subsequent advice about replacement meds, or how long you need to taper over to be safe.

Yeah, duly noted - I've thought about it myself. I don't take it for epilepsy, my psych thought we should try it as a novel treatment for depression and to be honest I've noticed no benefits. I've seen my GP twice to reduce from 400 mg to 300 mg and then down to 200 (where I'm at now) and he was just like 'yeah sounds good', and I felt no negative side effects dropping whatsoever (in fact if anything I felt a little less cloudy-headed). So this is just carrying on a process we've already agreed and worked together on.

And I'm also gonna confess that, unfair as it is, I don't really trust the NHS with mental health issues anymore, and feel a kind of knee-jerk reaction to keep it out of my business now. Which I actively know is illogical as I type this, but the feeling is pretty strong.

Promise I'll see him when I get a chance though.

Edit - once again thanks for this, man. You'd be totally within your rights to say 'gently caress off I'm not on duty', so making yourself available like this is really cool of you and really appreciated

Barry Foster fucked around with this message at 09:58 on Nov 14, 2019

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

There wasn't any Soviet colonialism or imperialism, so no.

Makes a change from the nutter-dom coming from neo-liberals and centrists.

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

i guess anarchism seems ok in theory but i am suspicious of anarchists. feels like it's easy to say you're an anarchist cos you'll never have to worry about achieving an anarchist state you know? bit childish idk.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

gh0stpinballa posted:

i guess anarchism seems ok in theory but i am suspicious of anarchists. feels like it's easy to say you're an anarchist cos you'll never have to worry about achieving an anarchist state you know? bit childish idk.

That's because an anarchist state is literally an oxymoron hth. Anarchists are usually incredibly varied in tactics and range from running parallel structures (eg food banks, community child care, etc) and using the current power structures to boost those alternative ones.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Private Speech posted:

Yeah that's JavaScript not Java, which is, uhh, a very significant difference. They're not really close cousins except in sofar as Microsoft named it JS

Netscape, not Microsoft. Not everything evil in the world of tech is down to the latter. :shobon:

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

gh0stpinballa posted:

i guess anarchism seems ok in theory but i am suspicious of anarchists. feels like it's easy to say you're an anarchist cos you'll never have to worry about achieving an anarchist state you know? bit childish idk.

That's a really weird way to think.

fuf
Sep 12, 2004

haha
I just registered as a volunteer on the Labour website. I'm nervous as poo poo. A year ago I could barely leave the house and now I'm doing this lol

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:



BBC just casually alluding to Corbyn being Mao there on the front page, no big deal

Jesus Tapdancing Christ

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

There wasn't any Soviet colonialism or imperialism

:thunk:

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

gh0stpinballa posted:

i guess anarchism seems ok in theory but i am suspicious of anarchists. feels like it's easy to say you're an anarchist cos you'll never have to worry about achieving an anarchist state you know? bit childish idk.
That's true in the same way that you'll never achieve a kosher bacon double cheeseburger. If you've ended up with anything that could truly be considered a bacon double cheeseburger, it's no longer kosher by definition.

(This is of course terrible for Jeremy Corbyn.)

Anarchism is best when it's concerned with processes and praxis, building parallel structures and opposing hierarchical powers, rather than :circlefap: about utopian end states.

e:f;b by Miftan, who will probably find an entirely Vegan bacon double cheeseburger to prove me wrong.

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MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese
Anarchists have tended to be better at actually *doing stuff* at the ground level, because there's not going to be a state to do it for you so best start organising for yourselves.

How to achieve an anarchist "state" has always been the fundamental problem that though, Bakunin by the end was extremely frustrated with the question of how anarchists could grab the levers of power without state apparatus.

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