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socialsecurity posted:No but there is a spreadsheet somewhere on how many you can let die before it starts to hurt your profits. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiB8GVMNJkE e: also speaking of social media and hiring: Whaaaaaat the fuuuuck https://twitter.com/XavierAshe/status/1195117893698162689?s=20 ewiley fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Nov 15, 2019 |
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Paradoxish posted:It really wouldn't be some massive deal in the real world. The "economy" doesn't move in lock step and US GDP growth fluctuates like crazy from year to year. This isn’t true at all
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Nov 15, 2019 00:23
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NOTHING SUSPICIOUS HERE: https://twitter.com/mattzap/status/1195117603733327872?s=19 lol Barr is going to make a dumb insane partisan russia report that 40% of the country will buy anyway, while the rest of the country calls them morons like usual I have to ask, do they really think that 40% will ever leave? Is it really worth focusing all your efforts on keeping you cult level of devotion followers faithful every minute of every day? They aren't enough to win elections. It's been proven multiple times in the past few years now
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Nov 15, 2019 00:24
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Paradoxish posted:It really wouldn't be some massive deal in the real world. The "economy" doesn't move in lock step and US GDP growth fluctuates like crazy from year to year. Just comparing a 0.2% reduction to the average is ridiculous because it obscures how much variance actually exists. It is not even remotely clear how a loss like that would actually play out in the real world or which sectors would even be impacted. My thinking is similar. I looked back at gdp growth since 1980 and the average growth is 2.64% w/ a standard deviation of ~1.821%. When it bounces around like that .2% looks like noise that would be drowned out by any number of factors, not some outsized impact on the economy to be overly concerned about.
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Nov 15, 2019 00:24
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Arglebargle III posted:11/14 Never Forget that guy who works on a national butterfly sanctuary on the US-Mexico border and voted Trump and lost his job when the government shut down the butterfly sanctuary and had the gall to act surprised. My favorites were the Trump voters who were married to non citizens and then their spouses got deported and they were surprised.
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Nov 15, 2019 00:29
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Fuuuuuuk EVERYTHING https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1195102405765074944
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Yiggy posted:My thinking is similar. I looked back at gdp growth since 1980 and the average growth is 2.64% w/ a standard deviation of ~1.821%. When it bounces around like that .2% looks like noise that would be drowned out by any number of factors, not some outsized impact on the economy to be overly concerned about. This argument doesn’t make any sense at all. What matters is if 0.2 is a meaningful amount compared to 2.62 not if you can eyeball the change on a chart. I really don’t understand why people feel the need to deliberately misunderstand a number means when we have already established the study that produced the number is garbage. If you want to discuss the economy based on economic you need to understand the units used and suggesting a yearly 0.2 drop sustained over a decade is no biggie is really really misunderstanding the numbers at issue. And there is no ideological need to do it because the study that generated that big number got disproved in five minutes!
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Nov 15, 2019 00:31
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The numbers don't matter, it could tank the economy with an annual -10% growth rate forever and it would still be worth it to equalize this poo poo. Because it's the moral thing to do.
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Nov 15, 2019 00:32
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The Glumslinger posted:So Trump is continuing to gently caress with South Korea All of this is purely because Trump doesn't understand how international relations work and what 'soft power' is
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Nov 15, 2019 00:35
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https://twitter.com/crampell/status/1195122588445487105quote:Sandy could provide insight into the process by which some $400 million in military and security aid to Ukraine was held up over the summer. He was among the career staffers who raised questions about the hold-up on the aid, people familiar with the matter said, and his role gave him responsibility for signing the documents required to hold it up. The people spoke on condition of anonymity because they weren’t authorized to discuss the internal deliberations.
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Nov 15, 2019 00:35
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Ungratek posted:This isn’t true at all Which part are you taking issue with? GDP growth absolutely fluctuates from year to year and GDP doesn't directly correlate to overall welfare, which is why measures like HDI exist in the first place. It's not clear what a sustained loss like that would look like in terms of real-world effects or if you could even reliably measure the impact of a wealth tax on GDP growth in the first place.
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Nov 15, 2019 00:36
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No one gives a gently caress about any decision that only has .2 of one percent of impact on the economy, especially not a hypothetical .2 percent after ignoring all the positive effects it would have Substantively speaking, at this point probably most people under 40 would be fine giving up vastly bigger amounts of our economy than that if it meant kids got education and food, people got health care, and we didn't destroy the environment.
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Nov 15, 2019 00:37
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The Glumslinger posted:So Trump is continuing to gently caress with South Korea Wow, another moment where Donald is undermining a key US ally and breaking decades of foreign policy, in favor of a dictator (linked to Russia) It's almost like there is a pattern here...hmmn what could it mean?! 
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Nov 15, 2019 00:38
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Kerning Chameleon posted:The numbers don't matter, it could tank the economy with an annual -10% growth rate forever and it would still be worth it to equalize this poo poo. Sure that’s a fine argument. I have no loving idea why you’d make it given that the claimed negative growth actually doesn’t exist because the study left off the growth boosting effects of the spending (which almost certainly outweigh the drag of the tax), but it’s a fine argument. It’s just important to not go “pfft 0.2 doesn’t sound big” because someone will explain what it means and then you’ve implicitly already accepted the number.
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Nov 15, 2019 00:41
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Burning_Monk posted:Fuuuuuuk EVERYTHING Goddamnit. I had hoped that since they were still alive there was hope they could pull through. This loving sucks.
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Nov 15, 2019 00:47
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OAquinas posted:Goddamnit. The shooter was a student, right? Hopefully it's him and not one of the victims.
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Nov 15, 2019 00:55
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I can't think of a place where there would be more evil people and only evil people gathered than a Federalist Society Gala. https://twitter.com/jbendery/status/1195114275033034752
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Nov 15, 2019 00:55
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I'm certainly no goldman sachs fan, but that's actually a pretty witty jab that made me chuckle
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Edit: fatal flaw. I’m wrong carry on. Sorry EW
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Nov 15, 2019 01:03
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tokyo reject posted:I'm certainly no goldman sachs fan, but that's actually a pretty witty jab that made me chuckle https://twitter.com/dankgdl/status/1195032077688877061
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Nov 15, 2019 01:04
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Oh, I'm sure Rudy knows where the bodies are buried. This is a fun idea, but I also have trouble imagining him having any secrets left that he hasn't spewed out on TV
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Nov 15, 2019 01:09
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evilweasel posted:this is really bad news, but not so much for the subpoenas because only trump appointees are insane enough to agree with the positions he's taking.
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Nov 15, 2019 01:10
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tokyo reject posted:I'm certainly no goldman sachs fan, but that's actually a pretty witty jab that made me chuckle It's funny because of the unbelievable human suffering Blankfien had caused but also a lady said some dumb racist poo poo about her cheekbones once.
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Nov 15, 2019 01:11
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Dalael posted:Am I the only one who thinks its way past time for free speech and maybe if these fuckers don't want to be assaulted, they can stop passing laws that makes life worse for millions of people? In reference to this, a good SF novel about exactly that, carried to extremes. http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/20121
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Jaxyon posted:It's funny because of the unbelievable human suffering Blankfien had caused but also a lady said some dumb racist poo poo about her cheekbones once. Some who what?
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Nov 15, 2019 01:14
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Jackard posted:Why is it always some rear end in a top hat named Steve? I have a theory that part of why Noted Shitweasel Stephen Miller is still part of the administration is that Donald likes people named Steve and likes people surnamed Miller.
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Nov 15, 2019 01:15
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GreyjoyBastard posted:I have a theory that part of why Noted Shitweasel Stephen Miller is still part of the administration is that Donald likes people named Steve and likes people surnamed Miller. It's pretty cute that people think calling for Miller to resign because he's a nazi is going to be effective when he's literally in that job because he's a nazi.
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Nov 15, 2019 01:17
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GreyjoyBastard posted:I have a theory that part of why Noted Shitweasel Stephen Miller is still part of the administration is that Donald likes people named Steve and likes people surnamed Miller. It's all because Steve Miller Band's "Take the Money and Run" made such an impression on Trump in his younger days.
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Kerning Chameleon posted:The numbers don't matter, it could tank the economy with an annual -10% growth rate forever and it would still be worth it to equalize this poo poo. The problem with your argument is that negative growth wouldn't equalize things, it would just mean that more people are trying to share a bigger pie, The problems we face are a matter of distribution not growth. Growth is necessary unless we can reduce population. Economic growth isn't just fat cat bank accounts, it's food production, housing, clothing, medical care and when you are talking on the scale of the entire economy .2% is a gently caress ton of stuff that people need in order to have lives that aren't starvation and misery. The problem is that the "money" that we use to represent all of that production has been hoarded by a vanishingly tiny number of sociopaths so that most of that productivity goes to waste or is focused on destructive crap. Of course like EW pointed out it's a moot argument because the premise of the article is utter and complete bullshit that ignored the positive economic effects of redistributing those resources in a more equitable way. But it doesn't strengthen your case when you ignore reality. Skex fucked around with this message at 01:46 on Nov 15, 2019 |
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Nov 15, 2019 01:22
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bird cooch posted:Some who what? Applauding noted evil hell-being Blankfein for a sick burn on Warren is some fun poo poo.
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Nov 15, 2019 01:23
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:gently caress How many are Trump appointees? A fair number of Bush appointees have been willing to rule against him in the past.
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Nov 15, 2019 01:26
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Jackard posted:Why is it always some rear end in a top hat named Steve? As a Steve myself, I think it's negative karma for us getting Steven Universe. 
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Haha Got em
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evilweasel posted:Sure that’s a fine argument. I have no loving idea why you’d make it given that the claimed negative growth actually doesn’t exist because the study left off the growth boosting effects of the spending (which almost certainly outweigh the drag of the tax), but it’s a fine argument. It’s just important to not go “pfft 0.2 doesn’t sound big” because someone will explain what it means and then you’ve implicitly already accepted the number. Yeah that number (if it was based in reality) would absolutely gently caress up the stock market and pension funds. I'm all for eat the rich and redistribute wealth, but every idiot with more than 50k in their IRA would flip poo poo even if the plans put into place we're good for them in the long run
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Angry_Ed posted:https://twitter.com/daweiner/status/1194975995205423104 Just want to comment that zucman is arguring that the study is bad. He is one of the economists pushing the wealth tax.
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mcmagic posted:I can't think of a place where there would be more evil people and only evil people gathered than a Federalist Society Gala.  These people know that they’re evil. A crowd of poors dressed as handmaidens is their jerk-off material. Last time I was at one of these, we stormed the building, spat in their faces, and got out while they were trapped in a security lockdown and scared shitless. #awkward, gently caress off with that weak poo poo
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SpaceCadetBob posted:Just want to comment that zucman is arguring that the study is bad. He is one of the economists pushing the wealth tax. That makes the NYT spin on it even worse, really. But thank you for clarifying
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