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sportsgenius86 posted:lol you've openly said he was pushed over the line by Rudolph. You can argue that's not "justifying" if you want to, I guess, but you're obviously attributing Garrett's actions to Rudolph by saying that, which is hilariously false. Plenty of guys have been hosed with on the field. Only one dude (AFAIK) has taken a helmet and cracked another player in the head with it. 2 players. Myles put himself up there with the illustrious Pacman https://youtu.be/1VJBmfyEg10
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Mason Rudolph will be remembered more for the humiliation of getting beat with his own helmet instead of being a terrible quarterback.
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sponges posted:Mason Rudolph will be remembered more for the humiliation of getting beat with his own helmet instead of being a terrible quarterback. The worst crime.
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All the COULDA KILLED HIM takes are pretty  I mean sure, also Rudolph theoretically could have broken Garrett's neck trying to get his helmet off, or given him a heart attack laughing at that clownyass face he made.
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the haslams should send freddy kitchens to work for some weird privatized medicare contractor in northeast tennessee
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Guze posted:takes are going to be nuclear it appears this was an understatement
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SilvergunSuperman posted:All the COULDA KILLED HIM takes are pretty 
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SilvergunSuperman posted:All the COULDA KILLED HIM takes are pretty Yeah taking an NFL helmet to the dome with force swung by loving Hulk who is 6'4" and 272lb of pure muscle ain't no thang, in fact you should do it to prove your point Mystic Stylez fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Nov 15, 2019 |
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This is the moment he was just trying to get his helmet, in no way continuing to try to fight a guy who could easily kill him if he didn't have O linemen and referees to separate them.
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sportsgenius86 posted:lol you've openly said he was pushed over the line by Rudolph. You can argue that's not "justifying" if you want to, I guess, but you're obviously attributing Garrett's actions to Rudolph by saying that, which is hilariously false. Plenty of guys have been hosed with on the field. Only one dude (AFAIK) has taken a helmet and cracked another player in the head with it. I've said he was justified in ripping off Rudolphs helmet, which he absolutely was. MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:Bitch stop trolling Yes I am Myles Garret.
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sponges posted:Mason Rudolph will be remembered more for the humiliation of getting beat with his own helmet instead of being a terrible quarterback. "aw, you poor little thing"
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Nov 15, 2019 17:53
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Myles indefinitely, pouncey 3 games, no word on mason
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MacheteZombie posted:Myles indefinitely, pouncey 3 games, no word on mason Schefter with the most optimistic outlook I've ever seen: https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1195384142034358272
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Nov 15, 2019 17:55
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Interesting psychology at play. Scenario: Closing seconds of garbage time in a big win at home against a division rival, playoff hopes still alive. Brain: Better pile-drive their backup QB in a late hit then try and kill him should he resist. I guess it makes sense to take him out but it seemed entirely emotional which is weird given the context.
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Mystic Stylez posted:Yeah taking an NFL helmet to the dome with force swung by loving Hulk who is 6'4" and 272lb of pure muscle ain't no thang, in fact you should do it to prove your point Mark Schlereth, is that you?
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The best thing is that a few days ago somebody posted in the AFCN thread that "Myles Garret looks like the type of dude who would be difficult to get into a fight"
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Kalli posted:Schefter with the most optimistic outlook I've ever seen: Lol
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Kalli posted:Schefter with the most optimistic outlook I've ever seen: the league continues to punish those who take a stand against racism
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Garrett should have hucked Rudolph’s helmet into the 23rd row of the Dawg Pound instead.
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I don't know, if I see this coming at me I think every part of my lizard brain is insisting I have to kill it.
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I know when he was at A&M everything you saw about him was about how odd and quiet and reserved he was. I guess #8 from this pre-draft puff piece is enlightening https://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-draft/2017/4/24/15297946/who-is-myles-garrett-texas-am-cleveland-browns 
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I think it’s a badder take to suggest that you can’t kill someone by swinging an NFL helmet straight into their exposed head, but I don’t think I would be the first person to spit the “He coulda killed him!” hottake either, if that makes sense...
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:Garrett should have hucked Rudolph’s helmet into the 23rd row of the Dawg Pound instead. If he'd done that he'd probably only have gotten a 1-2 game suspension and we'd just be making fun of Rudolph for getting punked.
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Slowpoke! posted:I think it’s a badder take to suggest that you can’t kill someone by swinging an NFL helmet straight into their exposed head, but I don’t think I would be the first person to spit the “He coulda killed him!” hottake either, if that makes sense... I agree that "the k word" doesn't really need to be in the conversation either way.
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Slowpoke! posted:I think it’s a badder take to suggest that you can’t kill someone by swinging an NFL helmet straight into their exposed head, but I don’t think I would be the first person to spit the “He coulda killed him!” hottake either, if that makes sense... He could've given him the 8th worst head injury someone suffered in that game!
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SilvergunSuperman posted:All the COULDA KILLED HIM takes are pretty Hi! I had a friend die at my place because he slipped and hit his head! Not even smacked in the head, just falling. Head injuries are nothing to gently caress with and this season has been super hard to watch since having that ground into my head via having a meatwagon take a body from my apartment. So yeah he could have died. Quit minimizing that.
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KitConstantine posted:Hi! I had a friend die at my place because he slipped and hit his head! Not even smacked in the head, just falling. Head injuries are nothing to gently caress with and this season has been super hard to watch since having that ground into my head via having a meatwagon take a body from my apartment. A fall from 5-6ft directly onto your head is mechanically and physically much different than someone winding up a helmet though. That isn't to say a hit from a helmet couldn't cause a hemorrhage or some kind of fatal contusion, but I mean, we're talking apples to oranges here. Myles Garrett didn't piledrive the helmet into his head from the height of an average adult male
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Spaced God posted:All myles garrett needs to do is punch a woman at a bar tonight and he'll get his suspension reduced to 3 games for "good" behavior This is the correct take The nfl wants to protect qb's tho, even backups, so it'll be 6+ If it wasnt a qb it'd be like 4 games
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Kurt Loadeater posted:Garrett pulled Mason down on top of himself basically. Not really seeing anything dirty at that point until Mason escalated. Terrible thing Garrett did but it sure seemed like Mason caused the whole thing.Let this be a lesson to everyone how a few seconds of losing your cool can change lives.
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Tiny Tubesteak Tom posted:A fall from 5-6ft directly onto your head is mechanically and physically much different than someone winding up a helmet though. That isn't to say a hit from a helmet couldn't cause a hemorrhage or some kind of fatal contusion, but I mean, we're talking apples to oranges here. Myles Garrett didn't piledrive the helmet into his head from the height of an average adult male "Didn't" and "Couldn't" are two very different things. Garrett wound up and swung from above his head straight down at Rudolph. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmVkbdSFCaU I wouldn't want a 5lb kettlebell swung into my head that way. I'm not saying Garrett is a monster, it was clearly impulse and he wasn't trying to kill the dude. But let's not pretend it couldn't have ended with blood on the grass.
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wide stance posted:Interesting psychology at play. Did you even watch the game or the video? Garrett landed on his back and Rudolph landed on top of him. This wasn't Turkey Joe 2019. It was a late pull down but it wasn't anything remotely notable in the least initially. The notable aspect is how things spiraled out of control after.
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KitConstantine posted:"Didn't" and "Couldn't" are two very different things. Garrett wound up and swung from above his head straight down at Rudolph. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmVkbdSFCaU A 5lb kettlebell is a little bit more dense than a helmet
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KitConstantine posted:Hi! I had a friend die at my place because he slipped and hit his head! Not even smacked in the head, just falling. Head injuries are nothing to gently caress with and this season has been super hard to watch since having that ground into my head via having a meatwagon take a body from my apartment. Has the coroners inquest concluded or do we all need to be aware our posts might be read in court
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ho fan posted:A 5lb kettlebell is a little bit more dense than a helmet I'm not gonna be convinced until I see a hastily shot video of a guy in a lab coat in his garage swinging a kettlebell around.
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I would like to add to the record if it pleases the court, Stefon Diggs rules and Aaron Rodgers is poo poo from a doo doo rear end.
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Phobeste posted:Has the coroners inquest concluded or do we all need to be aware our posts might be read in court You're good, it was a while ago. PTSD lasts a while, who knew?
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OxySnake posted:I would like to add to the record if it pleases the court, Stefon Diggs rules and Aaron Rodgers is poo poo from a doo doo rear end. I'll allow it
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KitConstantine posted:I'm not saying Garrett is a monster, it was clearly impulse and he wasn't trying to kill the dude. But let's not pretend it couldn't have ended with blood on the grass. What I'm trying to get at is an angular, deflecting collision from a distance of about 2ft (or whatever the length of Garrett's arm is) isn't equally as fatal to someone falling from standing height directly on your head, even taking into consideration the acceleration provided by swinging the thing like a medieval flail. I'm very sorry that someone died in your apartment, I mean that genuinely, that's a horrible situation and it sucks that you had to experience that. I work for an investigations company and I deal with these things every single day. I don't have time to do the kinematic Sports Science-esque analysis right now, but I'm saying that the aggregation of forces in either situation are completely and demonstrably different. Blood on the field? Sure, but that could happen at basically any time in the NFL. An acute subdural hematoma causing death on the field? No, not from the way those actions unfolded. Rudolph absolutely could have sustained a skull fracture or an intraparenchymal contusion with a head-on collision to the helmet, but with the NFL's medical policy on head injuries, the statistical probability of that resulting in a fatal injury is insignificant. He would have to be left alone by medical staff for days on end for his brain to swell or blood to pool in the tissues long enough to be fatal. Disclaimer: I am not a medical examiner, but I work with them a whole lot so I feel reasonably confident in saying these things. Anyone with actual medical experience feel free to tell me what a stupid dumbass I am if I deserve it
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