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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Bust Rodd posted:

On the razor edge of serious posting but some millennials (of which I am one) are so emotionally and financially traumatized that we suffer from a chronic infantilization and a sense of impotence in the world that we live in such that emotionally charged storylines within the framework of intensely silly characters are the only way we can experience emotional resonance. That’s why Bojack Horseman became the phenomenon that it did, it’s why Rick & Morty has such insane crossover appeal, and it’s why on the extreme end, you get poo poo like Bronies.

What I’m saying is that some people can ONLY feel things for/from silly cartoon bullshit, and that’s something I’m pretty sure Harmon is extremely, vividly aware of that.

That would explain so goddamn much.

That and growing up in a world so surreal, contradictory and insane that realism doesn't feel real.

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prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Bust Rodd posted:

On the razor edge of serious posting but some millennials (of which I am one) are so emotionally and financially traumatized that we suffer from a chronic infantilization and a sense of impotence in the world that we live in such that emotionally charged storylines within the framework of intensely silly characters are the only way we can experience emotional resonance. That’s why Bojack Horseman became the phenomenon that it did, it’s why Rick & Morty has such insane crossover appeal, and it’s why on the extreme end, you get poo poo like Bronies.

What I’m saying is that some people can ONLY feel things for/from silly cartoon bullshit, and that’s something I’m pretty sure Harmon is extremely, vividly aware of that.

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal
Might be a stupid question, but when is the next episode, and when are the following episodes airing?

Hobo Clown
Oct 16, 2012

Here it is, Baby.
Your killer track.




Was there an after-credits scene? I forgot those were a thing with this show. Someone mind spoiling it for me?

Abisteen
Sep 30, 2005

Oh my God what the fuck am I?

Hobo Clown posted:

Was there an after-credits scene? I forgot those were a thing with this show. Someone mind spoiling it for me?

Jessica is talking to her friends in the hallway and says that she wants to work as a hospice nurse when she's older to take care of people who are alone and have no one else with them, and that she will say to everyone: "I love you <name on nametag>"

Morty overhears and gets disgusted and goes with Rick through a portal.

Edit: It's actually funnier than my dry emotionless description of the scene.

Edit2: Actually here's a link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rLCeuT4SiM

Abisteen fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Nov 15, 2019

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Feel like the joke is that Rick isn't any more emotionally mature than Morty and has actually regressed into nihilism and is unable to emphasise with actually caring about anything.

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Abisteen posted:

Jessica is talking to her friends in the hallway and says that she wants to work as a hospice nurse when she's older to take care of people who are alone and have no one else with them, and that she will say to everyone: "I love you <name on nametag>"

Morty overhears and gets disgusted and goes with Rick through a portal.

Edit: It's actually funnier than my dry emotionless description of the scene.

Edit2: Actually here's a link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rLCeuT4SiM

That scene was a fantastic slam-dunk to end the episode. :thurman:

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Seems implicit that Rick will almost certainly revive Morty from death if only to still have a family to go home to from this episode.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

prefect posted:

That scene was a fantastic slam-dunk to end the episode. :thurman:

:emptyquote:

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band
Do high school girls actually dress like that nowadays? :corsair:

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

Mameluke posted:

So if the death crystal wanted Morty to use it, did it have some kind of will or intent? I really liked that, ignoring all the visions, the first thing Morty saw with the crystal was Rick, and the first thing Rick saw was his own hand.

the crystal didnt have any other power than just showing people how they'll die. morty just became obsessed with it, went mad from the power and used it to avoid death and become a deadly science fiction boy

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

prefect posted:

Do high school girls actually dress like that nowadays? :corsair:

Nowadays? I was in highschool over a decade ago and they were dressing way more risque than any other setting I've experienced in life. College felt almost puritanical in comparison and that's when the whole "wear tights as pants" thing really took off.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
I remember my girlfriend telling how all the cheerleaders in her high school were mad at one girl who complained about the uniforms and got them to be less slutty. This was in Michigan.

Android Blues
Nov 22, 2008

counterfeitsaint posted:

I'm not sure which show runner is least likely to want to take the piss out of incest shippers, Dan Harmon, who's interest in incest porn has already been referenced multiple times in the show, or Justin Roiland, who is Justin Roiland.

I think Roiland's reaction to hearing about people who shipped Rick and Morty together was to declare it canon "in some reality or another", so, yeah.

SweetMercifulCrap!
Jan 28, 2012
Lipstick Apathy

counterfeitsaint posted:

I've always wondered why season 3 is so polarizing, I thought it was fine. My only complaint is I didn't really care of the serialization and focus on character building. That stuff is great in like Mr Robot or something, but I think dumb gags is where R&M shines. That and clever gags.

That would be the main reason why it felt like a downgrade from the first two seasons for me. In my opinion this show works best primarily as "adventure of the week" stories, with the character drama and serialized story arcs taking a backseat but being present enough to add some weight. In season 3 the adventures felt weighed down by them and at times the show seemed to be beating the audience over the head that the characters are hypocrites. Maybe it was necessary to clarify that Rick shouldn't be idolized, but they did it with the entire family. Season 3 also felt more mean-spirited in general to me than the first two seasons and I'm somewhat tired of shows being overly mean as a source of humor. That's another reason why I think Bojack is so great - it goes to some dark places without ever feeling mean spirited in tone.

But again, none of this would probably bother me as much on a binge watch, and overall season 3 was still decent.

LividLiquid
Apr 13, 2002

If characters don't grow and change and nothing important ever happens to them, why would we ever get invested or care?

I like jokey jokes as much as the next gal, but even loving Homestar Runner characters grew and changed.

beanieson
Sep 25, 2008

I had the opportunity to change literally anything about the world and I used it to get a new av

WSAENOTSOCK posted:

If characters don't grow and change and nothing important ever happens to them, why would we ever get invested or care?

I like jokey jokes as much as the next gal, but even loving Homestar Runner characters grew and changed.

That just becomes the simpsons where crazy things can happen in any given episode but there’s no long term consequences to anything. loving Homer has been to space, that should be all anyone ever talks about in Springfield, but no everyone just forgets.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Yeah but the inanimate carbon rod got all the press.

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Cojawfee posted:

Yeah but the inanimate carbon rod got all the press.



(I wonder why it's green.)

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfczRC0Zrz0

I’ve missed these as much as I’ve missed the episodes

Lunatic Sledge
Jun 8, 2013

choose your own horror isekai sci-fi Souls-like urban fantasy gamer simulator adventure

or don't?

Ghost Leviathan posted:

That would explain so goddamn much.

That and growing up in a world so surreal, contradictory and insane that realism doesn't feel real.

at the risk of being off topic, this is a legit problem writers in certain genres are having right now

IRL we've had biohackers livestreaming their own gene therapy, we've had robots built to guard against homeless people, we've had a manager crush the career of the singer he managed before selling her aesthetic, sound, and identity to a different singer and get away with it. A self driving car hit someone because the car wasn't programmed to recognize pedestrians outside a crosswalk. There's a hole in Russia so deep it can suck a helicopter out of the sky. That's off the top of my head and that's all small stuff, just regular daily news stuff that I go "huh, drat" and move on because I have to steel my brain for whatever news follows it

if 10 years ago I wrote half the poo poo that's actually happened in the last decade, it would read as ridiculous. Life has jumped the shark and is breaking everyone's immersion at this point

mycomancy
Oct 16, 2016

Lunatic Sledge posted:

at the risk of being off topic, this is a legit problem writers in certain genres are having right now

IRL we've had biohackers livestreaming their own gene therapy, we've had robots built to guard against homeless people, we've had a manager crush the career of the singer he managed before selling her aesthetic, sound, and identity to a different singer and get away with it. A self driving car hit someone because the car wasn't programmed to recognize pedestrians outside a crosswalk. There's a hole in Russia so deep it can suck a helicopter out of the sky. That's off the top of my head and that's all small stuff, just regular daily news stuff that I go "huh, drat" and move on because I have to steel my brain for whatever news follows it

if 10 years ago I wrote half the poo poo that's actually happened in the last decade, it would read as ridiculous. Life has jumped the shark and is breaking everyone's immersion at this point

Ok dude, you're gonna need to drop some links to all of those references.

TerminalRaptor
Nov 6, 2012

Mostly Harmless

beanieson posted:

loving Homer has been to space, that should be all anyone ever talks about in Springfield, but no everyone just forgets.

The forgetfulness of that that gave us one of the greatest episodes of the series.

"You've been to space?"

TerminalRaptor fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Nov 18, 2019

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

Oh dude it gets better the anti-vagrant robocop is owned and operated by The San Francisco SPCA

Lunatic Sledge
Jun 8, 2013

choose your own horror isekai sci-fi Souls-like urban fantasy gamer simulator adventure

or don't?

mycomancy posted:

Ok dude, you're gonna need to drop some links to all of those references.

biohacker
anti-homeless robots
the entire lawsuit between Poppy and Mars Argo
self driving uber
Russian hole

sources grabbed basically at random from the first page of a google
edit: that's not a snipe about the accessibility of the information, that's me saying I don't vouch for the credibility of business insider I can get better sources if needed

Rexxed
May 1, 2010

Dis is amazing!
I gotta try dis!

Lunatic Sledge posted:

biohacker
anti-homeless robots
the entire lawsuit between Poppy and Mars Argo
self driving uber
Russian hole

sources grabbed basically at random from the first page of a google
edit: that's not a snipe about the accessibility of the information, that's me saying I don't vouch for the credibility of business insider I can get better sources if needed

I thought the first one was going to refer to when The Thought Emporium guy treated his own lactose intolerance, the linked article is a bit crazier.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3FcbFqSoQY

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
Rewatching last week’s episode before this week’s episode:

-the Rick and Morty death stranding commercial is insanely funny

- the animation is just really amazing, and the intricacies of the crazy goings on offset the simplicity of the characters

-I gotta give it to Justin for the courtroom scene. Tying your own tongue like that is super impressive.

Super extremely hype for the second episode

Bust Rodd fucked around with this message at 05:22 on Nov 18, 2019

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

The holophobia cracks were integral to establishing how un-rick holorick was.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
But he immediately becomes like Rick as soon as he gets flesh though, which I thought was the funniest part

Shitenshi
Mar 12, 2013
This one feels like a more comedy oriented Pickle Rick. It's not a top secret Russian embassy, they're just a really banality of evil type secret aliens, and Rick's not fighting Jaguar, he's overreacting to an extremely minor slight. The Smith family isn't even being jerked around by Rick's self-destructiveness this time, they're tearing themselves apart due to their own stupidity.

The Human Crouton
Sep 20, 2002

This episode feels like it was cancelled and brought back by netflix.

Shitenshi
Mar 12, 2013
I'd say Summer should be smarter than that, but then again, she got angry at Ethan when he left her while conveniently ignoring she married a cannibal in another dimension before that. She's just as much of a Rick as deep down Morty could switch to being Evil Morty at anytime.

I don't know if Beth picking a fight with Summer over a dumb app is proof that she is the real one after all and that chill phase was just a phase, or that the clone is gaining free will.

shadok
Dec 12, 2004

You tried to destroy it once before, Commodore.
The result was a wrecked ship and a dead crew.
Fun Shoe
Last week’s episode was a triumph. This one felt like a bit of a misfire. I’m going to need to watch it again.

The concept of Rick having built a custom planetary ecosystem to make his own perfect pooping place is delightful, though.

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW
I liked Rick's B plot, but the Beth/Summer/Morty/Jerry A plot was more annoying than funny. "Jerry is a loving moron, take 12" can only be dressed up so many ways that are actually good and "online dating will destroy the planet" wasn't one of them.

Guy A. Person
May 23, 2003

Yeah "people are fickle and distracted by dumb apps" seems like a past-its-prime take, and was the focus of 2/3 of the storylines. It felt like an episode entirely of B plots, not terrible but a pretty big step down from last week which was constantly kinetic and fun.

Shitenshi
Mar 12, 2013
I liked it, but it felt like a standard rerun type episode. That being said there's still enough good stuff to keep it way above most of everything else on TV these days, like Simpsons and now recently South Park that have dropped the ball lately. It ain't that bad yet.

Kurgarra Queen
Jun 11, 2008

GIVE ME MORE
SUPER BOWL
WINS

The Jerry/Morty and Summer/Beth plots sucked, yeah. We get it: Jerry's a loving idiot and the only thing he's actually any good at it is manipulating others. Beth is protective of Summer, while Summer is desperate for her life to change for the better. We learned nothing new.

The Rick plot was interesting.

Shitenshi posted:

This one feels like a more comedy oriented Pickle Rick. It's not a top secret Russian embassy, they're just a really banality of evil type secret aliens, and Rick's not fighting Jaguar, he's overreacting to an extremely minor slight. The Smith family isn't even being jerked around by Rick's self-destructiveness this time, they're tearing themselves apart due to their own stupidity.
The other difference is that, if anything, Rick is worse off than he was then. From his point of view, the power dynamic within his family has changed to his disadvantage, and if we assume chronology, the one person he thought he *could* trust(Morty) not only got him killed but then refused to clone him for selfish reasons. And Beth thinks she's a clone and that Rick might kill her at any moment. All of his friends are dead and his relationship with his family has never been worse. Plus, the Rick plot was really funny.

makoto20
Nov 23, 2006

DizzyBum posted:

These are two images from the opening title and will have no bearing on the story.

HAHA NOPE

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

Pork Pro
I really liked that one and wasn't "Jerry & Morty" the last thread title so show is a goon too. :science:

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bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

I do like how every main character was involved. Usually 1 or 2 are left out besides Rick and Morty, so everyone having a focus was nice.

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