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Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Braggart posted:


If you're crying, it's because you need to cry. And that's okay :glomp:
Unless you're like me, and have repressed your emotions so effectively that they start leaking during any remotely grandiose or emotional scenes in movies. Fun!


Josef bugman posted:

He's not the worst, he can be a bit "stand offish" for no real reason (thinking of the infamous interview with RDJ)
He's like most reporters nowadays in that he tries to do the Paxman hostile interview thing, but because he isn't as competent or well researched (and they choose weird targets to do it with) it comes across as just being a dick. I don't think Downey was expecting it, so it just came off really badly for Guru-Murthy.

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

SMH if your body hasn't lost the ability to express any emotion other than by crying.

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"

Can you arseholes stop giving me hope?

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

There were 921 votes cast btw

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

#communistbroadband is trending on Twitter.

Really think calling everything good communist will backfire on the Tories.

EDIT: I also totally missed we apparently announced interest free loans for electric cars, that's an awesome idea .
https://twitter.com/UKLabour/status/1195426256445231105

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


https://twitter.com/PraxisCast/status/1195425198239076359?s=20

Latest episode with GE news is out for you all to stuff down your earholes over the weekend. Enjoy :)

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Ratjaculation posted:

Data allowance all good?

Try putting it on airplane mode for 10 seconds, it'll force it to reconnect to the towers

Also might be a problem with your provider or the tower.

airplane mode for 10 seconds fixed it cheers

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

There were 921 votes cast btw

Which presumably means you can work out the votes per party by simply removing the decimal point :v:

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

Gonzo McFee posted:

The cow website is publishing excerpts from the new tory manifesto probably.

https://twitter.com/unherd/status/1195257697958014977?s=19
huh. why won't my eyebrows stop trying to climb off my face. they're out of control help

Endjinneer posted:

https://www.gov.uk/performance/register-to-vote/registrations-by-age-group

Registration rates of under 25s (about 7% of the voting population) are consistently exceeding all age groups over 44 (29%) added together.
Ta. I'm hoping that's all new voters, and not students registering in a new place; but on the bright side the 250k increase over the 2017 batch might at least be a minimum increase in voter base! Still 10 days to go.

Endjinneer
Aug 17, 2005
Fallen Rib

a pipe smoking dog posted:

Can you arseholes stop giving me hope?

Out of the council elections tonight:
Rhos- Plaid Cymru gain from Labour
Rosyth- SNP hold
Shap- LD gain from Conservative
Culverden- LD gain from Conservative
Goodrington- Conservative gain from LD
Powys- Labour gain from Conservative
Dunfermline- SNP gain from Conservative
Inverness- SNP hold

A mixed plate of results, served with creamed Conservative* .

*N.B: Interpreting council election results as indicative of national voting intention may result in Teresa May levels of hubris.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

OwlFancier posted:

Which presumably means you can work out the votes per party by simply removing the decimal point :v:

Or have the official notice of result

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


Dog Therapy: Shockingly Good
Jesus, John is talking about the media.

Oh yes, the Daily Mail sent journalists to interrogate my wifes 80 year old parents in goa
They printed my address and a photo and days later swastikas everywhere
Turds on the doorstep
Broken glass in the kids sandbox
Maggots through the mailbox

:allbuttons:

And he's just sitting there calmly because this is loving normal for him.

Wiggly Wayne DDS
Sep 11, 2010



strange time to announce leveson 2 is in the manifesto

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

always thank the rock hider

Bobby Deluxe posted:

Unless you're like me, and have repressed your emotions so effectively that they start leaking during any remotely grandiose or emotional scenes in movies. Fun!

When that happens to me it feels like it's more about feeling emotionally raw or fragile, so any little nudge can set me off. I think it's still a healthy thing, but also that overexposing myself to emotional stimuli during those times can be exhausting, and so might be best minimised. Not necessarily though, it's all down to personal judgment on a case by case basis :)

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Jose posted:

anyone have any idea why my phone would suddenly stop getting data? it says it has a 4g connection and regular calls/texts work

If rebooting worked - SIM got out of sync with the tower or just an arbitrary bug with your phone.

If it didn't - and you're sure you have data cap available - it's probably your local tower. Forcing your phone to 3G-only *might* do the trick if the issue is just with the 4G equipment, otherwise you'll just have to wait for the provider to notice and fix.

(Third possibility, if you're with an MVNO, is they have network issues - the RAN provider would normally handle your calls and texts but would hand the data portion over to the MVNO - obviously you'd need to contact them to find this out and rectify).

Endjinneer
Aug 17, 2005
Fallen Rib

CGI Stardust posted:

Ta. I'm hoping that's all new voters, and not students registering in a new place; but on the bright side the 250k increase over the 2017 batch might at least be a minimum increase in voter base! Still 10 days to go.

Wor lass has been out canvassing in a student heavy area. The kids aren't just alright. They're mobilised, organised and ready. They've spent their teenage years watching lib dems and tories at work and they're itching to fight back.
Observations from the doorstep are:
They're planning to vote tactically in the geographical sense- whichever constituency they can have the best effect.
Lib dem messaging is falling on deaf ears. For every flyer they get telling them to vote lib dem, they have a student loans company letter reminding them why not.

Bobby Deluxe posted:

Unless you're like me, and have repressed your emotions so effectively that they start leaking during any remotely grandiose or emotional scenes in movies. Fun!

Braggart posted:

When that happens to me it feels like it's more about feeling emotionally raw or fragile, so any little nudge can set me off. I think it's still a healthy thing, but also that overexposing myself to emotional stimuli during those times can be exhausting, and so might be best minimised. Not necessarily though, it's all down to personal judgment on a case by case basis :)

This is all hitting rather close to home. Thanks for posting it though. Something to think about.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Braggart posted:

When that happens to me it feels like it's more about feeling emotionally raw or fragile, so any little nudge can set me off. I think it's still a healthy thing, but also that overexposing myself to emotional stimuli during those times can be exhausting, and so might be best minimised. Not necessarily though, it's all down to personal judgment on a case by case basis :)
I was only diagnosed with high functioning* autism last year so I'm still trying to unpick exactly what's my own emotional fuckery and what's from known traits, so that adds an extra layer of fun to the whole thing!

* I know it's a huge problem phrase, but thanks to DSM it's all we got now.


Also spotted this, thought it might raise a giggle:

https://twitter.com/Cutting_News/status/1195265693178048512?s=19

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)
Today feels like it's been a good day.

BalloonFish
Jun 30, 2013



Fun Shoe

jabby posted:


Really think calling everything good communist will backfire on the Tories.

I read an article about US politics that found that the general trend of branding anything that wasn't white-hot free market unregulated capitalism as socialism/communism was, in the modern age of social media and widely-available information, just turning a lot of people onto actual socialism who would otherwise be soft conservatives or liberals.

When you try and scare people with "Thinking everyone should have regulated supplies of clean, safe drinking water in their home is socialism!!!!' or "Requiring your employer to actually have a reason to sack you is basically like Mao's China!!!!", a lot of people think that socialism sounds like a pretty reasonable and obvious idea, start looking into it and then a lot of them get hooked by actual left-wing policies.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Barry Foster posted:

Today feels like it's been a good day.

Came to say the same. The broadband policy is killing it, and that chart about new voter registrations looks incredible, if it holds up even a wee little bit the Tories are going to get absolutely dunked on.

Nothing's in the bag but feeling good about next month :getin:

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Ms Adequate posted:

Came to say the same. The broadband policy is killing it, and that chart about new voter registrations looks incredible, if it holds up even a wee little bit the Tories are going to get absolutely dunked on.

Nothing's in the bag but feeling good about next month :getin:

Hell yeah. We in it to win it comrades.

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

always thank the rock hider

Bobby Deluxe posted:

I was only diagnosed with high functioning* autism last year so I'm still trying to unpick exactly what's my own emotional fuckery and what's from known traits, so that adds an extra layer of fun to the whole thing!

* [sub]I know it's a huge problem phrase, but thanks to DSM it's all we got now.[/sub

Me too :) November 2018 - though I got a package deal that also included ADHD ;)

I bet you've figured out some things that I haven't yet though. We're all different :)

Endjinneer posted:

This is all hitting rather close to home. Thanks for posting it though. Something to think about.

You're welcome. I hope it helps :)

_______________________________________

Relevant to this, I think that self-deprecating humour can often hide actual low self-esteem. Certainly not in all cases, and I would never try to judge someone else in this way, but it does seem to be a thing.

Just something that I thought about for myself, in case it helps anyone.

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

Braggart posted:

self-deprecating humour can often hide actual low self-esteem

Did you call?

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
If labour win a 100+ seat majority I win like a grand lol. Won't happen but with days like today I can dream.

e: that's with putting a grand total of like 20 quid on

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Braggart posted:


_______________________________________

Relevant to this, I think that self-deprecating humour can often hide actual low self-esteem. Certainly not in all cases, and I would never try to judge someone else in this way, but it does seem to be a thing.

Just something that I thought about for myself, in case it helps anyone.

Yeah this is true. I absolutely cannot take a compliment, it makes me profoundly uncomfortable. I'll always make a joke of it and do it down, and that's probably not very healthy.

Viewing life and yourself with a certain amount of irony is a good thing, I think, but you gotta give yourself genuine credit too.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)
Quote is not edit

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

ThomasPaine posted:

If labour win a 100+ seat majority I win like a grand lol. Won't happen but with days like today I can dream.

e: that's with putting a grand total of like 20 quid on

pundits will still insist corbyn is a bad leader

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Gonzo McFee posted:

The cow website is publishing excerpts from the new tory manifesto probably.

https://twitter.com/unherd/status/1195257697958014977?s=19

I made the mistake of checking to see what other headlines were on this site advocating for the return of child labour and I was rewarded with the thoughts of the thread's most favourite transphobe vomited all over me.

Glinner posted:

It could be anything. A throwaway line in a press release, or a casting decision, or a packaging design that somehow made it through the focus groups. A charge of transphobia forms in an instant out of nothing, and then follows you around like a loyal, smelly dog.

But don’t panic! I am here to tell you that you can make it to the other side. It’s been a little over a year since I decided to enter into the heated debate around currently fashionable gender ideology and the same activists who smeared the former tennis player Martina Navratilova and the singer Marc Almond as transphobic have thrown everything they could at me too. And yet I have not changed my position one iota from what it was when I began.

I can summarise my position thus: women exist. They are not just an idea or a feeling. They have the right to assembly, the right to organise, the right to demand private and safe spaces free of men and the right to assert these rights without being tormented online by the first generations who didn’t go outside to play.

This is what I was able to hang onto in the worst moments: gender ideology is so incoherent that almost everything is now transphobic, including the National Health Service, dictionaries, the Venus symbol on Always sanitary products, The Vagina Monologues and Lou Reed. If they can take a transwoman to court on a charge of transphobia, if they can bully a transwoman, Debbie Hayton, for refusing to adhere to current orthodoxy, they can certainly give you a hard time for whatever transphobic thing it is you’re doing at the moment.

So here are some things to bear in mind while enjoying your turn in the stocks.

First of all, remember that the Equality Act states that you must not be discriminated against on the basis of your sex, not your gender. The singer Sam Smith may ask you to use ‘they’ and ‘them’ when speaking of him, but you are under no legal obligation to do so.

No two people seem to be able to agree on what the word ‘gender’ means, but many, myself included, feel it is the name for the stereotypes associated with either of the sex roles, male and female. Someone feeling an affinity with sex-role stereotypes is not the same as literally being that sex, and many brave transwomen are being forced to confront their dysphoria daily by fighting publicly against this concept, a concept that they feel is cruelly misleading fellow sufferers.

You will be told there is NO DEBATE. Just talk around anyone who lays that one on you. There is quite clearly a debate needed on the subject of how these ideas impact women’s rights, sports, dignity and safety.

Even Hillary Clinton, perhaps speaking with the freedom that comes after a failed presidential run, said: “I do think there is a legitimate concern about women’s lived experience and the importance of recognising that.” Direct your correspondent to the first point on the SNP’s Women’s Pledge, which states that women have “the right to discuss policies which affect them … without being abused or silenced”. No reasonable person could object to this principle, and their attitude to your asserting it will tell you how seriously to take their concerns.

Many of those writing to you will think they are behaving honourably, even as they direct the most appalling abuse at you. Don’t be intimidated. Be polite if you can, and remember that there are bad-faith actors working the controls and ensuring the temperature of the conversation is kept extremely high. Accusations of bigotry are the first stop on this journey, not the last, so get used to them.

Don’t be fooled into thinking your principles are somehow outdated. Women are just as vulnerable to male power and coercion as they were during #MeToo or, indeed, a hundred years ago. Pretending that men have suddenly decided to reform overnight — worse yet, designing policies around that pretence — could result in dreadful things, as when “Karen White”, a male sex offender, successfully identified himself into a position where he was able to sexually assault several female prisoners.

You will see some very frightening and upsetting stats about trans people and suicide, and how you are contributing to those statistics by your continued association with the writer/academic/doctor who has somehow transgressed some arbitrary rules. These statistics have very flimsy underpinnings. The “fact” that 48% of transgender teenagers have attempted suicide is based on a study involving just 27 young people, 13 of whom self-reported having attempted suicide in the past. Of course, any suicide attempt is a tragedy, but these are not the figures of a meaningful and robust study.

You will be accused of causing violence against transwomen. Murder rates will be quoted. This is deceitful hyperbole. Trans people are one of the safest demographics in the UK. The statistics quoted usually relate to poor transwomen of colour in the USA / South America, many of them driven by poverty into drugs and dangerous sex work. In a like-for-like comparison with statistics on the prospects of poor female sex workers of colour in the same geographic regions, this argument falls apart. Ask your correspondent, finally, if they have any suggestions for actually addressing how poverty and male violence impacts all sex workers, and remind them politely that male violence should never, ever be blamed on women.

There’s more, there’s so much more, and every case is unique. I can’t pretend it’s enjoyable, what you’re about to go through, but at least you will be remembered as one of first who didn’t capitulate to bullies and stood your ground, knowing you will make it easier for the next victim.

Let your principles be your compass, and you will always do the right thing.

But get some Valium.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

They'd love it! *picture of child experiencing existential horror*

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

always thank the rock hider

Josef bugman posted:

err. Does having one meal a day and it being just mcvities chocolate digestives count?

Real food is important for maintaining good mental health, though I recognise that it can be a difficult thing to organise. I also would never begrudge anyone their little comforts. But they should be had in addition to real food, not instead of ;)

I say this not to chide, but because skipping real food will necessarily have a negative impact on your mood and mental health. I find food preparation extremely difficult for mental health reasons, so I've come up with some strategies to minimise the faff for myself. Lidl soups are awesome. 99p and I just have to put it in the microwave, stagger back to bed, go back to the kitchen after five minutes or so, then eat :D I eat a few of their healthier ready meals as well, and I buy their beef offcuts to mix in to make it a heartier meal. This is only a tiny bit harder to prepare than the soup - it just adds a little mixing. I keep apples, carrots and peanut butter near my bed, so I can snack on whichever is most appropriate for the amount of sugar I want :D The peanut butter I eat with a spoon. It's a decent fat/protein combo in a pinch. Sometimes I keep nuts, tomatoes and oranges around as well. There is generally something around that I can face eating ;)

This is what works for me. I'm definitely not trying to tell anyone what to do, but maybe some of these ideas will help someone. At the very least, keeping some fruit within arm's reach can help get the blood sugar back to a sensible level :)

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

I eat your face

Barry Foster posted:

Yeah this is true. I absolutely cannot take a compliment, it makes me profoundly uncomfortable. I'll always make a joke of it and do it down, and that's probably not very healthy.

Viewing life and yourself with a certain amount of irony is a good thing, I think, but you gotta give yourself genuine credit too.

Forcing yourself to smile and say "thank you" at a compliment is a really good exercise, both from this perspective and because it acknowledges that the other person went out of their way to pay you that compliment. It makes them feel good to have made you feel good. It's a nice thing to do.

E: this assumes the compliment is innocuous and genuinely meant and not some creep being creepy at you

Maugrim fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Nov 15, 2019

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Barry Foster posted:

Yeah this is true. I absolutely cannot take a compliment, it makes me profoundly uncomfortable. I'll always make a joke of it and do it down, and that's probably not very healthy.
I was watching something where an American (quite possibly on YouTube) was saying something about how Japanese people found compliments to be rude / awkward and they don't know how to deal with them, and it kind of touches on how English people are - more accurately - afraid of being seen as big headed if we accept the compliment.

If you watch Americans interviewing Americans it can seem very saccharine where the interviewer gives a compliment and the interviewee says 'thankyou, thankyou. You watch a Brit being interviewed by an American though and they tend to deflect by saying "Oh well really it was down to the director and writer and the wonderful lighting team" and so on, but won't accept the compliment themselves.

Very similar in real life. I've had friend groups I've hosed with in the past by just outright complimenting them and had to sit through about ten minutes of "are you taking the piss," then "It's just a shirt," then "yeah well it was on sale" before eventually I drag a begrudging "I like it, thought it looks smart" out of them.

God we're such a broken little nation.

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

always thank the rock hider

Barry Foster posted:

Yeah this is true. I absolutely cannot take a compliment, it makes me profoundly uncomfortable. I'll always make a joke of it and do it down, and that's probably not very healthy.

Viewing life and yourself with a certain amount of irony is a good thing, I think, but you gotta give yourself genuine credit too.

I used to be like that, but nowadays I think that we don't get or give enough compliments. It's pretty unusual for most of us that any positive achievement or anything positive about us is recognised by others, because we are socialised to be extremely sparing with our compliments. Social interaction is a power game, or so we are taught. But I think that's bullshit. There are good things about me. Why should I pretend that there aren't when someone tries to recognise them? Why shouldn't I give myself a break from that? And why should I mix with people who want to play power games with me?

It's exhausting, and it's bullshit. Friends are your support, and you are theirs. These days I'm grateful to be told that a person respects me for something about me or that I have done. It feels good, and it keeps me grounded when my mind is being paranoid and self-hating. And if I have a nice thought about someone I know, I try to tell them, just because it might make them feel good. They're generally a little stunned by it until they get used to my completely unprovoked compliments :D

It's okay to take compliments. It's not a sign of ego, or selfishness or anything like that. And there are good things about everyone. It's okay to accept that about yourself :)

Venuz Patrol
Mar 27, 2011

Rarity posted:

I made the mistake of checking to see what other headlines were on this site advocating for the return of child labour and I was rewarded with the thoughts of the thread's most favourite transphobe vomited all over me.

hwy does he think bringing up hilary clinton will make him look more sympathetic

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Rarity posted:

I made the mistake of checking to see what other headlines were on this site advocating for the return of child labour and I was rewarded with the thoughts of the thread's most favourite transphobe vomited all over me.

Phwoar, proper hot takes tonight!

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Bobby Deluxe posted:

I was watching something where an American (quite possibly on YouTube) was saying something about how Japanese people found compliments to be rude / awkward and they don't know how to deal with them, and it kind of touches on how English people are - more accurately - afraid of being seen as big headed if we accept the compliment.

If you watch Americans interviewing Americans it can seem very saccharine where the interviewer gives a compliment and the interviewee says 'thankyou, thankyou. You watch a Brit being interviewed by an American though and they tend to deflect by saying "Oh well really it was down to the director and writer and the wonderful lighting team" and so on, but won't accept the compliment themselves.

Very similar in real life. I've had friend groups I've hosed with in the past by just outright complimenting them and had to sit through about ten minutes of "are you taking the piss," then "It's just a shirt," then "yeah well it was on sale" before eventually I drag a begrudging "I like it, thought it looks smart" out of them.

God we're such a broken little nation.

In a similar vein, some Japanese corporations have a position colloquially called "American" whose entire role is to be a foreigner in the room to say things like "no that's a stupid-rear end idea" because the average Japanese salaryman is absolutely NEVER going to tell his boss that an idea is actually bad and necks need winding in.

Accepting compliments feels intensely uncomfortable to me and the closest I can manage is to turn it into a joke by going "Oh you like this skirt? Yeah I guess I'm just the greatest fashionista ever, Sebastian Sato himself could learn a thing from me." but replying "Oh thanks it's cute, isn't it?" makes me dizzy just typing out.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

TheRat posted:



Gonna need a :thunk: vomiting :thunk: for this one

Does anybody have a link to the original post?

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

StarkingBarfish posted:

holy loly what happened there?

https://mobile.twitter.com/hardcast...pagenumber%3D94

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

Well, I, I think that - ah *loud gulp* the best, the best yeah, the best answer I can give is that I, I - of course I've been very oh-ho very happy and wonderful life

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Bobby Deluxe posted:

I was watching something where an American (quite possibly on YouTube) was saying something about how Japanese people found compliments to be rude / awkward and they don't know how to deal with them, and it kind of touches on how English people are - more accurately - afraid of being seen as big headed if we accept the compliment.

God we're such a broken little nation.
An island full of tea drinking racists obsessed with protocol and :decorum: and a toy monarch rolled out on occasion to stamp things?

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