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maffew buildings posted:She can dunk on the mental midget in charge all she wants, she's still a loving ghoul who is committed to watching the world burn for all of us rather than make any meaningful policy change Yeah, all she's doing is telling Nero that his fiddle is out of tune.
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Yuuuup.
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Poor Nero. Dude got a bad rap for no reason.
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Convicted Felon Roger Stone
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This thing feels like it's accelerating. It keeps feeling like that's impossible, but the crazy poo poo keeps going. https://twitter.com/ScottMStedman/status/1195523633571078144
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The man knows how to read a room, I guess. https://twitter.com/CoreyRobin/status/1195511186978168832
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Flying_Crab posted:
Our military only has the finest war criminals, doing the best war crimes!
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lol barry you establishment hack
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egyptian rat race posted:The man knows how to read a room, I guess. That gently caress. What the gently caress happened to him? Did he really get corrupted by all the money after the book deals and speaking arrangement fees? What the poo poo.
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Nov 16, 2019 04:02
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Nothing happened to him. He's always been like that, we just never listened.
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hes always been that way, his strategy was always best as an incrementalist
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maffew buildings posted:She can dunk on the mental midget in charge all she wants, she's still a loving ghoul who is committed to watching the world burn for all of us rather than make any meaningful policy change Fister Roboto posted:Yeah, all she's doing is telling Nero that his fiddle is out of tune. Yeah, if she really cared about the poo poo Trump does she should do something meaningful like impeach him.
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:hes always been that way, his strategy was always best as an incrementalist This is a typo, but that's right. He did his best work as an incrementalist. I liked working for him because of it. He didn't throw out some magic thinking bullshit and blame his underlings when it all fell apart like every goddamn officer I served under. When real life happened, he dealt with it. He probably took a good look a the the M4A plans out there and shook his head. And no wonder. I take a look at them, think about the tasks that'll come down to me about implementing them, and come close to making GBS threads myself. Images of Afghan and Iraqi rebuilding run through my head. "The people are crying out for healthcare! After the statues topple, it'll all sort itself out, because of destiny or some poo poo." You know how the Army Corps of Engineers let out contracts and then stand around jerking off? Same thing with the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. The second richest agency in the federal government has 6,000 employees to work with $1 trillion dollars a year. That's right. A measly brigade worth of people handling 16% of the federal budget, paying for the healthcare for hundreds of millions of people. But not really. There's another 40,000 contractors doing the dirty work. National Government Services. Novitas. Wisconsin Physicians Service Government Health Administrators. Beltway bandits and health insurance companies split up the spoils right now. If you flip the switch to a national health service, where the gently caress are you going to find the people and organization to make it happen? Can you imagine the chaos as these assholes run wild after the government invasion of the healthcare sector? Of course you can. You all saw the shrink-wrapped pallets of hundred dollar bills carted off of C-130s and then disappear into the wilds. Warren backing off and taking a second look gives me the only sliver of hope. This poo poo needs to be done right. And that takes time, planning, work, and people. The M4A bills out there now don't have any of that. All they've got are money and ideas. 
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Ceiling fan posted:
You mean the sanders bill that has 1 piece of legislation that has to pass, that has a transition phase of 3 years. While the Warren plan has 2 pieces of legislation that has to pass in between a mid -term election? The Warren plan pretty much says: I don't really want to do this but it might hoodwink some leftist into voting for me for my second term after I disenfranchise them with a poo poo public option that will fail. Sanders Plan: We're going to do this poo poo. And Ill use budget reconcilation to do it with 51 votes.
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Ceiling fan posted:He probably took a good look a the the M4A plans out there and shook his head. And no wonder. I take a look at them, think about the tasks that'll come down to me about implementing them, and come close to making GBS threads myself. Images of Afghan and Iraqi rebuilding run through my head. "The people are crying out for healthcare! After the statues topple, it'll all sort itself out, because of destiny or some poo poo." An insight from a reporter that more or less sums up your outlook: Do you think you can get 50 Democratic Senators to vote in Medicare for All, if Democrats take the Senate in 2020? I don't think so, so as much as I think M4A is good, it's a pipe dream because a Manchin will always hold it up. Not to mention that M4A-style candidates aren't selling at the countrywide level, last I saw, it costs about 5%-ish at the polls. quote:Warren backing off and taking a second look gives me the only sliver of hope. This poo poo needs to be done right. And that takes time, planning, work, and people. The M4A bills out there now don't have any of that. All they've got are money and ideas. But on the other hand, you can't take the stance of BETTER THINGS AREN'T POSSIBLE!!11!1 because that poo poo's dumb and Bideney. The Warren stance of Public Option Now (which Dems didn't even support in '09), M4A in a few years splits the difference. You can absolutely look at that and think that Warren's going to renege on the M4A part, and you might be right. But at least there's the Public Option as the immediate takehome. Not to mention that Presidents proposing this poo poo is inherently dumb anyways, as Congress initiates it all anyways. Sure a President could drag Congress into it, but that can be iffy.
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facialimpediment posted:An insight from a reporter that more or less sums up your outlook: Do you think you can get 50 Democratic Senators to vote in Medicare for All, if Democrats take the Senate in 2020? I don't think so, so as much as I think M4A is good, it's a pipe dream because a Manchin will always hold it up. Not to mention that M4A-style candidates aren't selling at the countrywide level, last I saw, it costs about 5%-ish at the polls. One thing I'm wondering is if she straight-up doesn't think she can get it past 50 votes in the Senate, and is planning on punting it past the midterms (and after over a year and a half of the buy-in being implemented, proving the country didn't explode) to give herself a better margin in the Senate, giving (hopefully) PA, FL, WI, IA, and NC all a chance to flip D.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:One thing I'm wondering is if she straight-up doesn't think she can get it past 50 votes in the Senate, and is planning on punting it past the midterms (and after over a year and a half of the buy-in being implemented, proving the country didn't explode) to give herself a better margin in the Senate, giving (hopefully) PA, FL, WI, IA, and NC all a chance to flip D. asking for the effort of voting twice in 2 years is like asking for a quiet table during groupon season though
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Acebuckeye13 posted:One thing I'm wondering is if she straight-up doesn't think she can get it past 50 votes in the Senate, and is planning on punting it past the midterms (and after over a year and a half of the buy-in being implemented, proving the country didn't explode) to give herself a better margin in the Senate, giving (hopefully) PA, FL, WI, IA, and NC all a chance to flip D. I don't think she's thinking that long-term yet (but could be wrong). I think this is a Union play. Biden's running as strong as he is because Unions absolutely do not want M4A loving with their hard-earned/bargained healthcare. They've developed a real Trumpy-ish FuckYouGotMineism about anything close to a whiff of the abolishment of private insurance. That's also why Buttigieg jettisoned any/all of his M4A talk too in a naked play for the squishy center that's propping up Biden. Bernie's dead right in all of his positions. He's dead wrong about any of them getting done in the Senate.
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Bored As gently caress posted:That gently caress. What the gently caress happened to him? Did he really get corrupted by all the money after the book deals and speaking arrangement fees? What the poo poo. He was always like this; you just had to have your brain worms removed after Nov 2016. It's tough, but it will make you feel less lovely in the end.
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realizing in 2009 that I despised Obama more than my arch-conservative homeschooling co-worker for exactly the opposite reasons was a real wake up call that Marx was right.
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shame on an IGA posted:realizing in 2009 that I despised Obama more than my arch-conservative homeschooling co-worker for exactly the opposite reasons was a real wake up call that Marx was right. quote:When communist artisans associate with one another, theory, propaganda, etc., is their first end. But at the same time, as a result of this association, they acquire a new need — the need for society — and what appears as a means becomes an end. ... the brotherhood of man is no mere phrase with them, but a fact of life, and the nobility of man shines upon us from their work-hardened bodies.
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https://twitter.com/chinfo/status/1195500836673196033 Am I reading this right? They restored his pay grade but not his rank?
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E-7 is a pay grade. Chief is a rank. He got fully restored.
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Smiling Jack posted:https://twitter.com/chinfo/status/1195500836673196033 Am I reading the tone right? They seem like they are saying this through gritted teeth. Like the purpose of the tweet was to convey the tone, not the information.
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This is sad https://twitter.com/andrewyang/status/1195520687286308864?s=21
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colachute posted:Am I reading the tone right? They seem like they are saying this through gritted teeth. Like the purpose of the tweet was to convey the tone, not the information. p much gently caress trump
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Smiling Jack posted:https://twitter.com/chinfo/status/1195500836673196033 It's basically a subtle dis because Marine and Navy NCOs get real uptight about being addressed by their full rank.
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Flying_Crab posted:It's basically a subtle dis because Marine and Navy NCOs get real uptight about being addressed by their full rank. So is there anything stopping the military from just deploying him to some rear end end of alaska collecting penguin sperm until he quits? Or is he already out he just gets retirement benefits?
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Where's Reagan buried? I have vacation days saved up.
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I *think* he still has his retirement nixed, because like sheriff Joe he's still a convicted felon. But I can't recall where he was in the judicial process, and can't recall if the UCMJ allows pardons like this normally.
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So, looking here: https://www.militarylawdefense.com/practice-areas/presidential-pardon-for-federal-military-conviction/ Yields this. quote:A petitioner requesting Presidential Pardon of a court-martial conviction must submit the petition directly to the Secretary of the military department that had original jurisdiction in case. A Presidential Pardon of a military conviction will not change the character of a military discharge. To change the characterization of your discharge a petition must be made to the appropriate military authority. and quote:A Presidential Pardon will restore various rights lost as a result of the Federal/Military conviction and should lessen, to some extent, the stigma arising from a conviction, it will not erase or expunge the record of your conviction. Therefore, even if you are granted a Presidential Pardon, you must still disclose your Federal/Military conviction on any form where such information is required – although you may also disclose the fact that you received a Presidential Pardon. In addition, most civil disabilities of a Federal/Military felony conviction, such as the loss of the right to vote and to hold state public office, are imposed by the state rather than federal law, and therefore may be removed by state action. Also, more in general on being a felon: https://people.howstuffworks.com/can-felon-own-gun-in-united-states.htm quote:Lest you think Section 922(g) is too lenient, however, read on: It also bans guns for (among others) fugitives, illegal users of controlled substances, mental defectives, illegal aliens,dishonorably discharged soldiers, renounced citizens, subjects of certain court orders and persons convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence. Violating these statutes can net you 10 years of imprisonment and/or a $250,000 fine [source: Rhode Island Probation]. But none of that matters, because Gallagher only got sentenced to 4 months and demoted 1 rank (only convicted on 1 charge, out of 7: "wrongfully pos[ing] for an unofficial picture with a human casualty".) He didn't even get an OTH discharge, so he's free to get on the gun-grift circuit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Gallagher_(Navy_SEAL)#Court_martial_result
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Vasudus posted:I *think* he still has his retirement nixed, because like sheriff Joe he's still a convicted felon. But I can't recall where he was in the judicial process, and can't recall if the UCMJ allows pardons like this normally. Retirement pay depends on characterization of discharge. Gallagher wasn't discharged as part of his sentence. Reduction in rank was his only punishment. Felony convictions have no impact on retirement pay, except in limited circumstances involving disloyalty to the nation - here's the list. As part of the Federal government, presidential pardons cover the military. Even if Gallagher had been convicted under a statute that took away his retirement, a pardon restores retirement pay lost under that statute.
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