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welp, they're slaughtering protesters in cochabamba. i'd post the links but it's pretty dark stuff
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Bolivian police allegedly used live ammunition to disperse anti-coup protesters in Cochabamba today, and there's videos which I will not post here of 3-5 people who are definitely dead, although it's not immediately obvious what killed them ('less-lethal' weapons like rubber bullets can and do still kill people). e: beaten
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Nov 16, 2019 00:39
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lol https://twitter.com/Southcom/status/1195373676495024128
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Mister Bates posted:the whole bed thing is legitimately hilarious to me because that is easily the most modest head-of-state residence I've ever seen, it looks like a room at an above-average Motel 6 or a below-average Holiday Inn. it's actually kind of surprising in its modesty. he was the loving president, ostentatious is what you expect in the bedchambers of a sitting head of state. instead it just looks...functional. it is a room in which you sleep. it has a mirror to check your appearance before going outside and a lamp and a little end table and that's pretty much it. One of the key features of the Latin American right is that racial minorities and poor people are simply not worth of any comfort or luxury. You can see this with the old tweet from the new president that there was no way people in a picture were indigenous because they were wearing shoes. Lula tells this story from his pre-presidential days. He was on an international trip back when flying was for just the elite, and the flight attendant offered him a choice of caviar or lobster. He chose caviar, and the flight attendant loudly said within earshot "calls himself a worker and wants caviar, huh?" Lula got up and said "hey, do you have rice and beans there? No? I made the choice out of what you offered me." And it was true throughout his presidency. The press would breathlessly report on the expensive wines that were being offered during official functions, all with the "he calls himself a worker, but drinks Romanee Conti?" Meanwhile, Aecio Neves blocked the handicap entrance to Mineirao so that he could have a red carpet for the party that he threw for 20000 guests during a Brazil x Argentina match and the journalist who reported on it was immediately fired for it.
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Nov 16, 2019 00:51
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hey turns out my bedroom is luxurious cool
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V. Illych L. posted:hey turns out my bedroom is luxurious dictator of your home.
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Nov 16, 2019 00:53
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joepinetree posted:One of the key features of the Latin American right is that racial minorities and poor people are simply not worth of any comfort or luxury. You can see this with the old tweet from the new president that there was no way people in a picture were indigenous because they were wearing shoes. we get the exact same thing here in the eeuu tbh
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Nov 16, 2019 00:53
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The solution is to ban private ownership of mass media and send the current crop of hacks and propagandists that sully the names of all real journalists everywhere to the reeducation camps imo.
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Nov 16, 2019 01:00
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Al! posted:we get the exact same thing here in the eeuu tbh It's a massive difference in magnitude. There's some of it with like AOC and the whole thing with her haircut, but that is mostly restricted to conservative media. You don't see the equivalent of ABC news going "formerly poor person now in congress has bottle of wine that costs hundreds of dollars." I mean, look at the example at play here. You're not going to see people openly upset that a poor person is in the airport about to embark on a flight (they might be secretly upset, but in Latin America it will be blatant). Like, most buildings in Brazil still have service elevators. Even "middle class" apartments will have service entrances, and servant's quarters that are intentionally made to look cheap. Hell, the whole thing with "open concept kitchens" here in the US aren't really a thing in Brazil because that is where the help works. It's a magnitude that is hard for Americans to comprehend. There's an entire genre of youtube videos of rich kids trying to get their maids to either pronounce or operate their recently purchased gizmos or gadgets, that is played up for laughs. Just the other day in Brazil people were developing food pellets to serve low income children in schools.
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Nov 16, 2019 01:09
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embassy suites level of luxury, truly a dictator gone mad
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Nov 16, 2019 01:33
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im the bolivian ex-pat named Luis Fernandez-Perrin claiming that free afternoon happy hour with 2 buck chuck and coors is the epitome of class traitorism
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lol that the "environmental activist" propagandizing the coup is a jared leto cultist. I wonder what she thinks of the new Joker.Al! posted:nevermind, bolivia is saved it sounds dumb, but if you are in the the US and there are events in solidarity with Bolivia against the coup please show up. There is a real chance it will make some difference to the people who really matter, the Bolivians fighting for their lives. When the Venezuelan coup happened people on the ground in Venezuela and Maduro himself thanked the relatively small number of US protesters who went into the streets. When a global empire is against you, it does help to know that the empire isn't as united as it wants to appear. In Bolivia the situation is obviously different, and as far as I know there are no TV stations that would broadcast this stuff like in Venezuela, but I imagine there's a similar dynamic. THS posted:liberals lack hate in their hearts for gotta kill the imperialist in your own head first that lets the US claim the name for all of the Americas Venom Snake posted:reminder: the Venezuelan coup happened because guaido literally called mike pence personally and promised with no evidence that he could get 50% of the military to side with him if he declared himself president with U.S. support considering how Trump is now openly fighting the State department I now wonder if this is story was someone trying to pass the blame solely to Trump's inner circle.
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joepinetree posted:It's a massive difference in magnitude. There's some of it with like AOC and the whole thing with her haircut, but that is mostly restricted to conservative media. You don't see the equivalent of ABC news going "formerly poor person now in congress has bottle of wine that costs hundreds of dollars." I mean, look at the example at play here.
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the Cochabamba police shootings today have resulted in at least five protesters confirmed dead, probably more, and several others critically wounded. the five confirmed deaths so far were people named Omar Calle, Cesar Cipe, Juan Lopez, Emilio Colque, and a fifth person who the street medics were unable to identify Mister Bates has issued a correction as of 03:05 on Nov 16, 2019 |
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Nov 16, 2019 02:59
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Atrocious Joe posted:it sounds dumb, but if you are in the the US and there are events in solidarity with Bolivia against the coup please show up. There is a real chance it will make some difference to the people who really matter, the Bolivians fighting for their lives. i dont disagree, its also a good way 2 meet and get experience working with people for something other than someone else's loving money
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Nov 16, 2019 03:05
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https://twitter.com/SameeraKhan/status/1195512684839624704?s=20 Anti-imperialism ftw.
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lmao thats some Man in the High Castle poo poo
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Nov 16, 2019 06:19
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Portlandia is one of the only shows where I got so pissed off by the first episode I never watched another one again.
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comedyblissoption posted:Newsweek: Socialist Bernie Sanders Wears a $700 Jacket While Complaining About Rich People Now imagine that being the subject of the nightly news for weeks and you'll get the idea.
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In the video posted in the last page, as the lady is guiding them through the bedroom she keeps saying how "they took everything" and "left no evidence". Evidence of what, I cannot imagine – kinda surprised they didn't plant some money or drugs or something at the very least to make the press tour worth it.
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if someone is describing anez as "centre right" what does that suggest about them
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StashAugustine posted:lmao thats some Man in the High Castle poo poo lol also his family came from landed money.
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Chewbaccanator posted:In the video posted in the last page, as the lady is guiding them through the bedroom she keeps saying how "they took everything" and "left no evidence". 'we promise this room used to be much more lavish but the president carefully removed all the luxuries and then neatly arranged the furniture while fleeing for his life' these people are loving deranged
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Nov 16, 2019 13:49
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gh0stpinballa posted:if someone is describing anez as "centre right" what does that suggest about them That they're part of the bolivian "democratic opposition"? 
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so his grandfather was a royal Korean traitor imperial japan spy nazi I like to call this form super treachery 3
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Nov 16, 2019 15:46
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Fred Armisen's grandfather committed one of the top 10 anime betrayals https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1195434894039699457?s=20 The Guardian is trash
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Al! posted:welp, they're slaughtering protesters in cochabamba. i'd post the links but it's pretty dark stuff I took a quick look at Twitter and yeah, fuckin' yikes. Dozens dead. The images and videos are very graphic, so do not look into it if violent imagery triggers your mental health. The people of Bolivia need to organize and treat this as a civil war, as the coup-led forces are clearly willing to treat them as enemy combatants.
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https://twitter.com/PabloAStefanoni/status/1195736334503202816 Añez just pardoned the cops and military for any "excesses" taken during the repression of protests
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Nov 16, 2019 19:20
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Great Metal Jesus posted:I don't know if these are necessarily true. I almost exclusively lurk but I feel like a combination of the US coverage of Turkey's invading Syria and finding this thread a couple weeks ago has fundamentally changed how I see things. Like another poster up thread called it I guess you could say it was a crack*ping moment and they definitely happen. Oh, it's absolutely possible for people to go from being wrong about these things to having a better understanding of them, and I imagine most people posting on this forum had dumb political views at some point. I think what I said mostly applies to the people who actually engage in arguments with the left over this, since those people have actually seen the sort of points you mention and instead choose to double-down. Mister Bates posted:the whole bed thing is legitimately hilarious to me because that is easily the most modest head-of-state residence I've ever seen, it looks like a room at an above-average Motel 6 or a below-average Holiday Inn. it's actually kind of surprising in its modesty. he was the loving president, ostentatious is what you expect in the bedchambers of a sitting head of state. instead it just looks...functional. it is a room in which you sleep. it has a mirror to check your appearance before going outside and a lamp and a little end table and that's pretty much it. Why didn't they at least put some fancy stuff in the room, lol Chewbaccanator posted:Evidence of what, I cannot imagine – kinda surprised they didn't plant some money or drugs or something at the very least to make the press tour worth it. And if they did the lib response would be "Yes they may have planted them, but we should assume they are real until it has been proven they aren't. Maybe this situation is more nuanced than the left likes to claim." Ytlaya has issued a correction as of 19:57 on Nov 16, 2019 |
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How much you wanna bet Interim President Anuz is sleeping in a fancier room than that
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Atrocious Joe posted:Fred Armisen's grandfather committed one of the top 10 anime betrayals Indigenous people are always overstaying their welcome, who wants to live on a lithium deposit? Are they crazy? Got some serious reservations about those folks.
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Homeless Friend posted:Got some serious reservations for those folks.
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