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Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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TenementFunster posted:

vietnam isn’t a nation in this universe

If memory serves, Angela has said she was born before Vietnam became a state.

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Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


My immediate assumption was also that Trieu is the Comedian's daughter/granddaughter, but in hindsight I think it might be kind of a pointless twist to include in there, not sure yet.

Still wondering what is up with that drat clock vis a vis the huge carnival filled with corpses that we keep seeing in the trailers. If they're going for the same kind of incident as in the original, I feel like it's a bad move to show it multiple times.

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003

The Cooler King

Jedit posted:

If memory serves, Angela has said she was born before Vietnam became a state.
puerto rico isn’t a state either

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

We've Got To Go Back

Mantis42 posted:

That logic doesn't apply to settler colonialist projects like that. It's like saying someone is Cherokee because they live in Oklahoma.

Well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzZTyquHcJY

Zmej
Nov 6, 2005

Hakkesshu posted:

Still wondering what is up with that drat clock vis a vis the huge carnival filled with corpses that we keep seeing in the trailers. If they're going for the same kind of incident as in the original, I feel like it's a bad move to show it multiple times.
as my bubee used to say: it's like poetry, they rhyme

Mulloy
Jan 3, 2005

I am your best friend's wife's sword student's current roommate.

Hakkesshu posted:

My immediate assumption was also that Trieu is the Comedian's daughter/granddaughter, but in hindsight I think it might be kind of a pointless twist to include in there, not sure yet.

Still wondering what is up with that drat clock vis a vis the huge carnival filled with corpses that we keep seeing in the trailers. If they're going for the same kind of incident as in the original, I feel like it's a bad move to show it multiple times.

I'm thinking it would be a flash back type thing vs a new thing.

Your Gay Uncle
Feb 16, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
Took me 4 episodes to get the "Milk and Hanoi" pun.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Your Gay Uncle posted:

Took me 4 episodes to get the "Milk and Hanoi" pun.

I love the addition of the slogan “where we let saigons be saigons” in the latest episode.

MechaSeinfeld
Jan 2, 2008


Xealot posted:

I'm watching pornography. 75 milliseconds ago, data comprising the current frame left the Pornhub servers.

It's 2001. The actress I'm watching leaves the University Hospital in Prague. As her parents swaddle her in a blanket, it is 2019 and she is asking her stepbrother if he likes her new bikini.

In 16 minutes, I am ejaculating. I reach for the Kleenex box.

lmao

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



Ugly In The Morning posted:

I love the addition of the slogan “where we let saigons be saigons” in the latest episode.

If you notice, the theme of that scene is precordered answering machines sharing punny and cheesy greetings back and forth to each other. The hertiage center says one at the end of the call. it was cute :3:

Man Musk
Jan 13, 2010

it's me, the ruthless fed who happens to be really into devo

TychoCelchuuu
Jan 2, 2012

This space for Rent.
"Fed" is oversimplifying quite a bit. She's a former masked adventurer who clearly has all sorts of issues related to that, plus she and Dreiberg were caught doing superhero stuff and so chances are she started working for the government as a way to avoid Dreiberg's fate, which is apparently jail. She's always liked Devo (per the comic) so it's not like this alternate reality superhero show in which some guy fishes for fetuses is implausibly positing a boring old G-Man who happens to like an extremely popular band, which we all know could never happen in any universe. She's much more than just some random FBI agent.

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003

The Cooler King

TychoCelchuuu posted:

"Fed" is oversimplifying quite a bit. She's a former masked adventurer who clearly has all sorts of issues related to that, plus she and Dreiberg were caught doing superhero stuff
they were caught killing Tim McVeigh before he blew up OKC lol

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

TenementFunster posted:

they were caught killing Tim McVeigh before he blew up OKC lol

I really need to look into Peteypedia.

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



Whatever complaints poepople have about the show, the litmus test for me of "this was a good show" is if after it airs, and I know everything there is to know, I can still go back and look at scenes or episodes and draw new information or ask new questions, and that the story and show and characters and design all stay internally consistent with itself.

An example of that being bad is WestWorld s2 - when you went back and asked questions you suddenly revealed how nothing made sense. Contrast that with what I'm reading in the graphic novel, and at Comedians funeral it zooms in on Ozy while talking about miseries and death. At the time of first read through you'd think it was just a zoom in on a friend or whatever, but on your Xth read through/watch you can draw a connection about what it is impliying about Ozy

So that would make a good show, if it could live up to rewatch or pondering like that and I never go "huh?..... what?"

Instead, good sounds more like "ohhh!" or "drat..."

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003

The Cooler King

twistedmentat posted:

I really need to look into Peteypedia.
that particular entry really tickled me

GORDON
Jan 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

massive spider posted:

I didnt catch that the couple were named the clarks

The interesting part is how this means that Truie has effectively privatised "Superman"s origin, by buying the farm right before he crashes on it.

WHich suggests we're seeing the timeline after she already used the time machine, and knew exactly what, and when, to the second, it would be crashing onto the farm.

The entire point of the time machine could have been to be prepared for that exact moment.

AccountSupervisor
Aug 3, 2004

I am greatful for my loop pedal
Trieu also said it "tells time" so its possible that like Dr. Manhattan, it allows her to see the past and future, hence knowing when the thing would be crash landing.

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog
Getting a little sick of the slow pacing and 5 new mysteries per episode thing

But it's the Lost dude or dudes so I shouldn't be surprised

Season will end with Laurie and Night staring down a hatch and going WHOA at the unseen contents

Jeremy irons is good

GORDON
Jan 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
I'm getting tired of HBO timeline-out-of-order fuckery.

Just tell it chronologically, godammit.

Bushido Brown
Mar 30, 2011

GoGoGadgetChris posted:

Getting a little sick of the slow pacing and 5 new mysteries per episode thing

But it's the Lost dude or dudes so I shouldn't be surprised

Season will end with Laurie and Night staring down a hatch and going WHOA at the unseen contents

Jeremy irons is good

It's only one season.

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog

Bushido Brown posted:

It's only one season.

That's the line they tossed out so people would give Lost Guy another chance

I'm putting on my squidfoil hat here but I'm positive they always planned on multiple seasons, they're just going to claim it's due to strong reviews and commitment to telling another good story or what have you.

Bushido Brown
Mar 30, 2011

I think there's a pretty striking divide between people who watch this show because of the Leftovers and people who watch this show because it's a sequel to Watchmen.

(For these purposes, I'm putting everyone who watched Leftovers in the first camp, even if they read the novel.)

Guy A. Person
May 23, 2003

The last episode of Lost was 9 and a half years ago and Lindelof has done other poo poo since then

grate deceiver
Jul 10, 2009

Just a funny av. Not a redtext or an own ok.
I've started watching this yesterday, it has some really dumb and inept parts, but overall is pretty ok. It's nowhere near the original in terms of story or tone though. Good music. I also kinda don't believe that it will be a self-contained story. There's bound to be some cliffhanger or dumb magical mystery.

Hopefully no time travel will be involved, cause that could be the laziest resolution imaginable for this show.

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog
Yeah the story of Will and Angela and the Police Chief will be resolved

Concurrently the hook for season 2 will be introduced at the end of the season

It's the time clock, and it controls time!

Edit, yeah Lindelof has done other stuff since Lost, but is it really fair to describe him as the Cowboys & Aliens guy? I think people are gonna consider him the Lost Guy until he does something at least better than it

GoGoGadgetChris fucked around with this message at 23:57 on Nov 16, 2019

beanieson
Sep 25, 2008

I had the opportunity to change literally anything about the world and I used it to get a new av

GoGoGadgetChris posted:

Yeah the story of Will and Angela and the Police Chief will be resolved

Concurrently the hook for season 2 will be introduced at the end of the season

It's the time clock, and it controls time!

Edit, yeah Lindelof has done other stuff since Lost, but is it really fair to describe him as the Cowboys & Aliens guy? I think people are gonna consider him the Lost Guy until he does something at least better than it

So, The Leftovers?

Guy A. Person
May 23, 2003

GoGoGadgetChris posted:

Edit, yeah Lindelof has done other stuff since Lost, but is it really fair to describe him as the Cowboys & Aliens guy? I think people are gonna consider him the Lost Guy until he does something at least better than it

He did the Leftovers

I just think it's bizarre to be like "this season will end just like the season finale of Lost season 2, an episode of television that aired 14 years ago"

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog

beanieson posted:

So, The Leftovers?

Sure! I've never even heard of it but if HBO gave him the reigns to a third show then I bet it's great!

Guy A. Person posted:

He did the Leftovers

I just think it's bizarre to be like "this season will end just like the season finale of Lost season 2, an episode of television that aired 14 years ago"

Is it bizarre to think a writer, producer and director has a consistent style? I never have any doubt when I'm watching a Taika Waititi movie or a Tarantino movie

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

GoGoGadgetChris posted:

Sure! I've never even heard of it but if HBO gave him the reigns to a third show then I bet it's great!

The Leftovers is some of the best TV ever made, especially the second two thirds. Highly recommended.

clown shoes
Jul 17, 2004

Nothing but clowns down here.
I love watching shoes made by people who made things I hate.

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



drat this shits boring

beanieson
Sep 25, 2008

I had the opportunity to change literally anything about the world and I used it to get a new av
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I never have any doubt when I'm watching a Taika Waititi movie or a Tarantino movie
[/quote]

Style sure. But there were no vampires in Thor Ragnarok. People are capable of telling different stories sometimes.

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog

clown shoes posted:

I love watching shoes made by people who made things I hate.

Ooo I hope that's not directed at me. I loved Lost until I didn't

I'm loving Watchmen but worried I soon won't, based on my experience with DudeMan. It's like when I'm reading a Stephen King book I know that the closer I get to the back page, the dumber things are going to get

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog

beanieson posted:

Style sure. But there were no vampires in Thor Ragnarok. People are capable of telling different stories sometimes.

Man, I meant staring into a hatch as a metaphor for an unsatisfying resolution and a "tune in next season for the REAL story!"

Guy A. Person
May 23, 2003

GoGoGadgetChris posted:

Is it bizarre to think a writer, producer and director has a consistent style?

This is like the exact opposite of my point. I am pointing to more recent examples as evidence of growth as a writer.

AccountSupervisor
Aug 3, 2004

I am greatful for my loop pedal
For fucks sake you guys.

https://www.slashfilm.com/damon-lindelof-watchmen-season-2/

Damon Lindelof posted:

“I felt that if these nine episodes end without feeling like we completed a story, in the same way that we feel that at the end of a season of Fargo or True Detective, you know, then it’s not really Watchmen. It’s just another continuing show where you have to come up with a cool cliffhanger for the finale."

“It’s also not my story, right? I appropriated it. And so the idea that someone else could come along and do a another season of Watchmen, that’s really exciting to me too. I would watch the gently caress out of that. These nine episodes are sort of everything that I have to say at this point about Watchmen, and then we’ll kind of go from there.

It took them 2 years to make this show and they havent even ordered a second season, let alone begun the preproduction process.

Relax.

AccountSupervisor fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Nov 17, 2019

Colonel Whitey
May 22, 2004

This shit's about to go off.

grate deceiver posted:

I've started watching this yesterday, it has some really dumb and inept parts, but overall is pretty ok. It's nowhere near the original in terms of story or tone though. Good music. I also kinda don't believe that it will be a self-contained story. There's bound to be some cliffhanger or dumb magical mystery.

Hopefully no time travel will be involved, cause that could be the laziest resolution imaginable for this show.

In the interest of actual discussion, can you expand on, like, any of this?

Sleeveless
Dec 25, 2014

by Pragmatica

GoGoGadgetChris posted:

That's the line they tossed out so people would give Lost Guy another chance

I'm putting on my squidfoil hat here but I'm positive they always planned on multiple seasons, they're just going to claim it's due to strong reviews and commitment to telling another good story or what have you.

You know the time you spent vomiting your baseless conjecture on everyone could have been spent actually learning who "the Lost guy" is so you would at least know what you're talking about in any degree whatsoever.

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GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog
Lol, is your thing "angry TV guy"?

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