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Det_no posted:*in a gringo voice* Evo should have picked a successor... They believe in their hearts that would have calmed everybody down
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RIP Syndrome posted:wobwaffle post the videos
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SexyBlindfold posted:Here's the full interview if anyone's interested. Spoiler alert: It's bad, folks lmao @ "I'm a common person, I can't be racist"
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:Come back around 8:00AM EST tomorrow morning. Early shift, I see.
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:Come back around 8:00AM EST tomorrow morning. ...you realize that would just be 9AM in Bolivia, right. Like I get you're making the "lol cia" joke, but uh
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ZearothK posted:https://twitter.com/jmkarg/status/1196117945933606912 Where is that's guy that was saying "I'm siding with free elections " edit: democracy: https://twitter.com/TeresaBo/status/1195485067918954497 Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 11:08 on Nov 18, 2019 |
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RIP Syndrome posted:wobwaffle post the videos She's having a hard time finding any without swastikas in the crowd.
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Macri knew https://twitter.com/RancidSassy/status/1196221830689968129?s=20
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Argentina refused asylum? Just more evidence that Camacho isn't a Nazi imo.
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Cup Runneth Over posted:https://twitter.com/Miami_Rebelde/status/1196270080054693889?s=20 http://laestrellaroja.net/actualidad/bolivia-general-golpista-huyo-hacia-estados-unidos-con-el-pago-de-1-millon-de-dolares/ This is the source the tweeter cites. I am not sure who this army guy is or if we should believe this source but there you go.
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hoiyes posted:Argentina refused asylum? Just more evidence that Camacho isn't a Nazi imo.
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Cup Runneth Over posted:https://twitter.com/Miami_Rebelde/status/1196270080054693889?s=20 As far as I can tell, Kaliman was never the coup head or intimately associated with the coup. He told Morales he no longer had the military's support, and then also refused to help the police and Camacho's paramilitary goons with their post-coup repression, causing Anez to threaten him with prosecution live on air and then appoint a new military high command (who were much more willing to gun down civilians). It's genuinely unclear to what extent his retirement was expedited by a fascist death-squad knocking on his door. The internal dynamics of this coup make a lot more sense when you remember it wasn't a military coup, but a paramilitary coup that the military refused to stop. It's the fascist street gangs who are in charge and setting policy.
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Darth Walrus posted:As far as I can tell, Kaliman was never the coup head or intimately associated with the coup. He told Morales he no longer had the military's support, and then also refused to help the police and Camacho's paramilitary goons with their post-coup repression, causing Anez to threaten him with prosecution live on air and then appoint a new military high command (who were much more willing to gun down civilians). It's genuinely unclear to what extent his retirement was expedited by a fascist death-squad knocking on his door. According to one of the further tweets: https://twitter.com/Miami_Rebelde/status/1196272922278744064 So if you believe this source then it's not like Kaliman was the only military and police official being bought off. If true, it would also help explain why the military leaders were all happy to get fired like two days after ousting Morales.
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The NYT published the perfect NYT article about the coup, with highlights such as these:quote:On Thursday, Ms. Añez issued a presidential decree exempting the military from criminal prosecution when maintaining public order. The following day, police cracked down with lethal force on the protesters in Cochabamba. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/16/world/americas/bolivia-anez-morales.html Peak NYT reached! But I guess it shows that support for the coup will not falter anytime soon in western democracies, because the article manages to accurately list a whole bunch of the horrible things the interim government did despite their supposed only mandate being to call a new election, and still they manage to firmly sit on their "some Bolivians say Ms. Hitler might be up to something bad" fencepost
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vyelkin posted:According to one of the further tweets: Although I think its incredibly likely (if not certain) the USA was involved, it would be a pretty amazing leak if only 1 day later we knew the exact amount they were paid and their destination. The website is not exactly the most trustworthy. Hell, their editors aren't even able to do the most basic of fact checking on other articles.
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brugroffil posted:has there ever been a time in history where a military coup to remove even an actual authoritarian leader, either left or right, led to an expansion of democracy? portugal
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vincentpricesboner posted:Although I think its incredibly likely (if not certain) the USA was involved, it would be a pretty amazing leak if only 1 day later we knew the exact amount they were paid and their destination. The website is not exactly the most trustworthy. Hell, their editors aren't even able to do the most basic of fact checking on other articles. Yeah I'm pretty reticent about the quality of that source, hence all the qualifying "if" statements.
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vyelkin posted:Yeah I'm pretty reticent about the quality of that source, hence all the qualifying "if" statements. Exactly. At least their bias is obvious but man, they fall for parody twitter accounts and everything. http://laestrellaroja.net/actualidad/quieren-revertir-logros-historicos-en-bolivia-acusa-robert-de-niro/ They sourced from this https://twitter.com/RobertDeNiroUS/
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V. Illych L. posted:portugal Tbf that was done by a group of captains and majors, because the top brass was all in the regimes pocket. we then allowed all the fascist enablers go on to exile , only for then to return 15 years later and gently caress our economy up.
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Grapplejack posted:...you realize that would just be 9AM in Bolivia, right. Like I get you're making the "lol cia" joke, but uh
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Apparently troops joining MAS protests https://twitter.com/redfishstream/status/1196396982836846592 maybe immediately replacing the top brass the troops were loyal to with a bunch of idiot yes-men wasn't the right move for the golpistas 
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bagual posted:Apparently troops joining MAS protests I have to wonder about the regional origins of the bulk of armed forces. How many come from the poorer, native-populated regions of the country? That's a big factor in how willing they may be to push things to the extreme. Training and discipline will make people dissociate from their origins and ethnic/religious group, but that takes a lot of work.
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:lol wtf is the point of this post Get more creative with the cia jokes! "Has to figure out how to scrub location data first" "has to remember the password for their proxy in la Paz" "needs to tastefully crop out black helicopters" the world is your oyster
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Grapplejack posted:Get more creative with the cia jokes! "Has to figure out how to scrub location data first" "has to remember the password for their proxy in la Paz" "needs to tastefully crop out black helicopters" the world is your oyster I think the post was less about the poster being from the CIA and more so of the poster being a white Westerner posing as a Bolivian while he's dicking around at work.
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punk rebel ecks posted:I think the post was less about the poster being from the CIA and more so of the poster being a white Westerner posing as a Bolivian while he's dicking around at work.
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What's the 'minister of the presidency' in Bolivia? I know that in several other presidential systems of government, it's basically the prime minister, but it's a quite vague title that could mean a lot or a little. I ask because Anez selected her cabinet a few days back, and Jerjes Justiniano, Canacho's personal lawyer, currently has the job.
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Walmart: kindly gently caress off. Also you still owe 64 million dollars to the chilean revenue service, the SII. https://twitter.com/elmostrador/status/1196468899828682752
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Yeah, Estrella Roja's articles aren't a source you should pay much heed to given their absolute lack of sources and tendency to fall for parody accounts.Darth Walrus posted:What's the 'minister of the presidency' in Bolivia? I know that in several other presidential systems of government, it's basically the prime minister, but it's a quite vague title that could mean a lot or a little. I ask because Anez selected her cabinet a few days back, and Jerjes Justiniano, Canacho's personal lawyer, currently has the job. From Wikipedia: "El Ministerio de la Presidencia de Bolivia es un ministerio encargado de brindar apoyo a la gestión presidencial, la coordinación con los poderes del Estado, establecer la gestión pública con participación de las organizaciones sociales y los pueblos indígenas, y mecanismos de comunicación y difusión transparente de la información gubernamental." "The Minister of the Presidency of Bolivia is a ministry in charge of providing support to the presidential administration, coordinating the powers of the State and, establishing public management with participation from social organizations and indigenous peoples, and providing transparent mechanisms of communication and dissemination of governmental information"
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Spice World War II posted:The NYT published the perfect NYT article about the coup, with highlights such as these: Jesus Christ that's like wikipedia NPOV bad.
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SexyBlindfold posted:Has anyone in the 'official' golpista government even acknowledged Camacho's existence? If I had to guess, I'd say they're trying to not associate him directly with the coup in people's minds so he can be the "clean" candidate in the "free and fair" elections later.
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Cup Runneth Over posted:https://twitter.com/Miami_Rebelde/status/1196270080054693889?s=20 Lol at only a million. Thats like a small house and not enough to live into retirement on in the US. My dude you could have gotten like 20 million easy. Raccooon fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Nov 19, 2019 |
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Raccooon posted:Lol at only a million. Thats like a small house and not enough to live into retirement on in the US. this is not a reliable source
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