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Sure, we're all about defying unjust authorities, but Befehl ist Befehl.
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Nov 19, 2019 20:14
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Ah boy, I'm just so tired of all these Star Wars.
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Nov 19, 2019 20:14
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Honestly, the trash galaxy deserves and appears to mostly actually desire the empire. End of star war, moral being that better things aren't possible
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Nov 19, 2019 20:18
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Kylo. Buddy. Just buy a new loving helmet. but branding
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spacetoaster posted:I lol'd for real. i quietly lol'd when i got to the part of about them eating space-soy, could't help it
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Nov 19, 2019 20:26
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Asgerd posted:Natives of Gatalenta were renowned for their calmness and serenity, and rose each day to thank the planet's multiple suns for rising. https://twitter.com/dril/status/158042815128023040
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Nov 19, 2019 20:35
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George H.W. oval office posted:Lol at the red super glue Happy Noodle Boy posted:Kylo. Buddy. Just buy a new loving helmet. i think they were going for a Kintsugi look. However, usually you use gold for that and not bright red punishedkissinger fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Nov 19, 2019 |
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Nov 19, 2019 20:37
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No Mods No Masters posted:Everyone else was conquered and/or submitted to the first order off screen. I know people have trouble with this because it's insanely stupid but it is literally the first thing stated in the opening crawl They were conquered *after* their super weapon and a large chunk of the first orders forces were destroyed? What the gently caress
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Nov 19, 2019 20:45
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Terror Sweat posted:They were conquered *after* their super weapon and a large chunk of the first orders forces were destroyed? What the gently caress Yes, they appear to have an infinite amount of forces so any such losses are immaterial. People talk a lot of poo poo on JJ deservedly but this one was pure Rian
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Nov 19, 2019 20:46
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No Mods No Masters posted:Yes, they appear to have an infinite amount of forces so any such losses are immaterial. People talk a lot of poo poo on JJ deservedly but this one was pure Rian That's not quite fair, other than some vague language in the opening scroll, Last Jedi just altogether sidesteps any questions about the scale of the conflict or the state of the galaxy as a whole. All we see are a few FO ships chasing a few less Resistance ships.
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Nov 19, 2019 20:49
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Terror Sweat posted:They were conquered *after* their super weapon and a large chunk of the first orders forces were destroyed? What the gently caress it was also after the first order destroyed presumably the entire new republic fleet that was all hanging out on not-courscant for some reason
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Terror Sweat posted:They were conquered *after* their super weapon and a large chunk of the first orders forces were destroyed? What the gently caress The First Order were not supposed to be a standing threat anymore as of the end of TFA, everything about them in TLJ is backfill making up for how badly everyone misread the room when TFA came out.
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Nov 19, 2019 20:54
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General Dog posted:That's not quite fair, other than some vague language in the opening scroll, Last Jedi just altogether sidesteps any questions about the scale of the conflict or the state of the galaxy as a whole. All we see are a few FO ships chasing a few less Resistance ships. I don't think it's vague at all, people just refuse to accept that the opening crawl means what it says because it's too stupid. But the events of the movie are actually 100% consistent with the first order reigning in the rest of the galaxy. JJ is of course going to ignore this anyway so it's pretty moot, but I honestly believe people just refuse to accept rian's intent because it is so implausible
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Nov 19, 2019 20:57
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Yeah, the movie's situation is consistent with the opening crawl, it's just not consistent with the previous movie.TLJ Opening Crawl posted:Episode VIII
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Nov 19, 2019 21:04
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The bigger question is what was Princess Leia resisting in TFA?TFA Opening Crawl posted:Episode VII
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Nov 19, 2019 21:07
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remember how the old ally was a character we’d never seen or heard of before who died immediately and had no significance whatsoever beyond being played by a beloved actor that old ally we all know and love
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Nov 19, 2019 21:11
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Charitably: - You can say reigns is meant to be metaphorical but I don't think that's consistent with how opening crawls are usually written. - You can say that snook is deploying his legions to seize control, implying that perhaps this process is not yet complete. Seems ambiguous, but I'd say the movie itself more suggests that it's done, at least by the time no one answers Leia on the radio. In any case nothing that happens in the movie would stop this process if it wasn't quite complete at the beginning anyway. Looking forward to each opening crawl being dedicated to mainly retconning the previous opening crawl in the many, many films to come No Mods No Masters fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Nov 19, 2019 |
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Nov 19, 2019 21:13
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You can also tell the republic ceased to exist between star warses 7 and 8 because it ceased to be worthy of all caps
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Mandrel posted:remember how the old ally was a character we’d never seen or heard of before who died immediately and had no significance whatsoever beyond being played by a beloved actor Yeah tfas entire loving opening is absolutely insane and there was no way to rescue the trilogy from the idiot box that was the result. New republic being the weimar republic and Max von sydow having the map to Luke and dying with no explanation was just ridiculous
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Why are people making the same tired and misguided critics of LTJ in the spoiler thread? I’m here for vague leaks dammit, not people complaining about the only three flaws in the LTJ. Those flaws? 1) no actual lightsaber fight. 2) you’re mom joke 3) somebody saying God speed in Star Wars instead of May the force be with you.
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Nov 19, 2019 21:30
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How come nobody makes comics like this but in defense of Solo?
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Uncle Wemus posted:How come nobody makes comics like this but in defense of Solo? disney didn't bother pushing the narrative that only an alt-right chud would dislike solo
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Nov 19, 2019 21:41
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panel 3 really baffles me because like, what consequences does poe face?
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Nov 19, 2019 21:46
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Brother Entropy posted:panel 3 really baffles me because like, what consequences does poe face? He was demoted for disobeying Leia, and that demotion is part of why Holdo doesn't tell him her plans. Like, I'm not getting into whether that argument has merit, but that's clearly what the comic is talking about.
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thrawn527 posted:He was demoted for disobeying Leia, and that demotion is part of why Holdo doesn't tell him her plans. sure but he's demoted for all of a day before holdo goes 'actually i like him' and does her big heroic sacrifice to resolve the situation. depending on how you place the blame holdo either dies to undo her mistake or dies to undo poe's mistake and either one isn't really a great look from a wokeness identity politics angle
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Nov 19, 2019 21:55
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The problem with the Holdo/Poe conflict as a representation of toxic masculinity / male entitlement is if you switch their genders then a middle aged man telling a younger female subordinate to shut up and trust his secret plan that gets everyone killed would also be an example of toxic masculinity and entitlement.
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euphronius posted:Jedi general Owen Lars ???? Owen buys his clothes at the Tatooine army surplus store.
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It's also a case where her plan isn't good enough to justify the bait and switch being pulled on the audience. Like, we see everything from Poe's pov the whole time- the framing leads the audience to find Holdo cowardly, incompetent, and possibly treasonous. Then the movie says "shame on you, Poe and you, audience, for not believing that Holdo had a plan"; and then the plan turns out to be a colossal failure regardless.
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banned from Starbucks posted:It's more of a resistance imo They’re independent contractors working to destabilize a region of space after their capitalist home worlds were astro 9/11’d.
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Nov 19, 2019 22:09
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euphronius posted:
you're right, it was actually attempted murder
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Nov 19, 2019 22:16
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Wild Horses posted:you're right, it was actually attempted murder Wrong your honor, if my client draws his weapon in the heat of passion, but hesitates and makes the decision not to kill the so called "victim" intent is not present. He can only be charged with endangerment, and assault.
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Nov 19, 2019 22:19
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We have about a month remaining to get through the thread's greatest hits and we're making good progress. Lukechat would be good to get out of the way for sure. Who wants to be the rope a dope for the jakkuine revival
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Nov 19, 2019 22:21
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YES HE DESERVES TO DIE AND I HOPE HE BURNS IN HELL *brushes imaginary dust from shoulder*
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The thing about Luke is I don't believe he would ever start a Jedi academy in the first place, even though that's the premise of most supplementary books. He threw his lightsaber away in RotJ.
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John Wick of Dogs posted:The thing about Luke is I don't believe he would ever start a Jedi academy in the first place, even though that's the premise of most supplementary books. He threw his lightsaber away in RotJ. That's what I thought for years, but a screenshot from the Ewok party shows its back on his belt by the end. He probably scooped it up with the force while dragging his fried dad into the elevator
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John Wick of Dogs posted:The thing about Luke is I don't believe he would ever start a Jedi academy in the first place, even though that's the premise of most supplementary books. He threw his lightsaber away in RotJ. Blood Boils posted:That's what I thought for years, but a screenshot from the Ewok party shows its back on his belt by the end. He probably scooped it up with the force while dragging his fried dad into the elevator Yeah, he wasn't saying he would never fight again, he was saying he wouldn't give in to his anger and murder his defenseless father. Hell, he even says right then, "I am a Jedi, like my father before me." Him starting a new Jedi Academy makes perfect sense.
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No Mods No Masters posted:We have about a month remaining to get through the thread's greatest hits and we're making good progress. Lukechat would be good to get out of the way for sure. Who wants to be the rope a dope for the jakkuine revival *Clears throat, speaking extremely gravely, precisely, and deliberately* Jakku and Tatooine are 100%, definitely, different planets.
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Nov 19, 2019 22:37
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If you look at this Dennys placemat/coloring sheet you can clearly see...
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No Mods No Masters posted:We have about a month remaining to get through the thread's greatest hits and we're making good progress. Lukechat would be good to get out of the way for sure. Who wants to be the rope a dope for the jakkuine revival And then a week of discussing Episode IX before everyone gets bored of it and we're straight back to droid slavery chat.
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