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This is the go-to post about the first time Mearls ran interference for Zak and the Pundit, including the stuff theironjef touched on: https://failforward.co.uk/post/93348768153/how-dungeons-and-dragons-is-endorsing-the-darkest
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Arivia posted:What the gently caress have you done for marginalized people? Well, for one I supported my best friend in her transition by giving her a free place to stay and paying for her medicine to do so, but I also could have just made that up because we are on a comedy forum. See the issue with gatekeeping in a place like this? theironjef posted:Sure, here's a polygon article about the guy that needed his name removed from 5e books: https://www.polygon.com/2019/2/20/18232181/dungeons-dragons-zak-smith-sabbath-abuse-accusations-players-handbook Thank you for a reasonable reply. From what I have read this is beyond hosed up and I will try and push my group to a different system and not support WotC. All anybody had to do is provide some context. Not that I didn't provoke them, but then again this is Something Awful. Let's be honest though, the original post I responded to didn't mention any rape and without context as a new player it sounded like some nerd was butthurt because of a stupid pretend game. I'll apologize now that I have the full story and context, but I would honestly expect to receive one in turn. D-Pad fucked around with this message at 06:22 on Nov 19, 2019 |
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D-Pad posted:Well, for one I supported my best friend in her transition by giving her a free place to stay and paying for her medicine to do so, but I also could have just made that up because we are on a comedy forum. See the issue with gatekeeping in a place like this? So you tell Arivia that just posting isn't doing any good, and when she informs you she does do important things offline you immediately try to claim it doesn't count and can't be real because anyone could make it up? Why? (I know why, you were planning on dismissing everything she said and when it turned out she does do real life activism you had to immediately backpeddle to "Well you could be lying so it doesn't count")
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D-Pad posted:Let's be honest though, the original post I responded to didn't mention any rape and without context as a new player it sounded like some nerd was butthurt because of a stupid pretend game. I'll apologize now that I have the full story and context, but I would honestly expect to receive one in turn. "Professional harm" should've clued you in that it wasn't talking about just stupid harmless forums drama. This involved doxxing, coordinated harassment, and people having to quit the games industry to try and escape. But let's be honest though, and admit you were just looking to dismiss anything Arivia had to say.
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Nov 19, 2019 07:14
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I don't want to pile on but I think it's important to point out that "it's just a comedy forum" as an excuse hasn't been something that flies in a lot of places in this forum for a while now. I get that some places here it's still a thing but many of the subforums have diverted into their own subcultures.
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Nov 19, 2019 07:15
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To get off this topic Eberron is out. Anyone curious about it's stuff?
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Nov 19, 2019 07:57
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Well i was until i was made aware of the above posts’ topic
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Despite the whole consultant thing, Zak had little to no influence on the game, and his name has been stricken from the PHB for a while now. He has nothing to do with Keith Baker's Eberron. MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 08:15 on Nov 19, 2019 |
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Nov 19, 2019 08:13
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I’m interested in hearing more about Eberron. Don’t know what to ask though. Uh, how’s its 5e incarnation?
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Nov 19, 2019 08:25
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Is the 'official' version of the artificer any different than the last UA update? Any new subclasses and your opinions?
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Toshimo posted:Cool, I guess we had to do all this one more loving time. https://www.polygon.com/2019/2/20/18232181/dungeons-dragons-zak-smith-sabbath-abuse-accusations-players-handbook https://failforward.co.uk/post/93348768153/how-dungeons-and-dragons-is-endorsing-the-darkest e: and Jef's post too D-Pad posted:I am new to D&D and the discussion about how to make dwarf clan war interesting or what people should do as a DM is super interesting. I am already tired of the drive by making GBS threads. Why not make another thread to discuss the mechanics and how they suck and keep this thread for the actual interesting discussion then start handing out probes whenever the bad thing happens again. I'm pretty sure you can guess the punchline. Splicer fucked around with this message at 09:01 on Nov 19, 2019 |
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Well the new Eberron book is out, and I haven't bought it yet because I wanted to see what I already had and what I still need. And basically it seems like we were lied to or Beyond screwed up real bad. Originally those of us who bought Wayfinders were going to have it upgraded to finalized versions of anything that was in it, and have all the Artificer stuff automatically added in. Then they pulled back on it a bit and said well okay you will only get one archetype of Artificer, the rest won't be included. Right now I have no Artificer, not just one subclass but the class is no longer available to me at all. Upon further inspection I also no longer have the Dragonmark variants to the races. There is probably other stuff I got from Wayfinders that is gone, but I am not sure right now.
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Nov 19, 2019 09:31
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When you ask them what the gently caress they think they're doing, make sure you do it from a throwaway email address.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Despite the whole consultant thing, Zak had little to no influence on the game, and his name has been stricken from the PHB for a while now. Does someone pay you for this? Does WotC send you strips of boot leather in the mail to suckle?
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MonsterEnvy posted:Despite the whole consultant thing, Zak had little to no influence on the game, and his name has been stricken from the PHB for a while now. The problem with D&D isn't just Zak S being consulted, it's that when Mike Mearls, lead designer got called out on supporting Zak S, known abuser and rapist, he doxxed the people complaining to Zak S That is who you're supporting when you dump money on new splat books. Not So Fast fucked around with this message at 11:35 on Nov 19, 2019 |
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Nov 19, 2019 11:32
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Midig posted:Pretty much my opinion of a lot of SA threads. When you try to actually discuss the topic at hand or maybe bring up interesting things you are doing with it, a lot of people will ignore it. Then discussion starts again once someone brings up the idea that X is poo poo for the 5th time or that someone is a bigot and we should therefore stop liking X thing. Dwarves dig deep and fearlessly for a reason, and that reason is, the earth is the stoutest shield you can ask for and if something bad happens you can shut the door and spike it. Or, y'know, collapse the cavern. A clan grudge is not about two dwarves yesterday, it's about dozens of dwarves over centuries. Doing something bad. So they shut the door and spiked it. (Or, rarely, collapsed the cavern.) So, work out your clans, who they are and have been, what drives them, how they act. Hideous poisons, strength of arms, servitors of selfish gods, arcane madness? Then once you know what they do, get some whats and whys and hows of the things they did to each other. And here's how the racket works. The oldest grudges, the worst grudges, no dwarf can be trusted with, not alone. Somebody's going to have more tenth cousins on one side than the other. So there are these buried dwarven chambers, and the dwarves say, oh, ancient history, very cursed, but hey outsiders, tell us what you find in there and you can keep anything valuable since we've got on without it for so long it must not be important. But what they're angling for is some kind of resolution. ...and possibly the reassurance that there isn't anything worse than old dead mistakes festering down there. They've already had to shut an emergency backup door and spike it. Maybe that one won't open until you prove yourselves a little. The facts of each clan history will tell you how to describe what clues your players find, but when it comes to what they report, well, it isn't as though the dwarves already know what happened, is it? Maybe there's some advantage to favoring one side over the other, even apart from the facts of history.
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Ryuujin posted:Well the new Eberron book is out, and I haven't bought it yet because I wanted to see what I already had and what I still need. And basically it seems like we were lied to or Beyond screwed up real bad. Originally those of us who bought Wayfinders were going to have it upgraded to finalized versions of anything that was in it, and have all the Artificer stuff automatically added in. They literally removed content you paid for because a new book came out with some of the same stuff, that presumably you would also have to pay for? That's a big yikes. Not as big a yikes as this: D-Pad posted:I too have black friends. What the gently caress is wrong with you? Arivia often posts like an rear end in a top hat but I have zero reason to doubt any work she does trying to help marginalized people, and she's often also right about RPG stuff. Admiral Joeslop fucked around with this message at 13:40 on Nov 19, 2019 |
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It seems like they are in the middle of publishing and updating the changes to be fair. I bought the new Eberron book(own WGtE)and I don't have access to the Artificer right now. I'm still getting the pre-ordered message. Dexo fucked around with this message at 13:44 on Nov 19, 2019 |
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Nov 19, 2019 13:42
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Yeah, I would imagine it's just a screw up on beyonds end, The stuff should be fixed within a day I imagine.
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How many folks here have played out a lizardfolk toon, and what were the highlights of your play-through? We're starting season 9 in adventurer's league and I have a lizardman grave cleric all built and proper for session 0. I think I'm going to start with some silent type trope...?
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A Bad King posted:How many folks here have played out a lizardfolk toon, and what were the highlights of your play-through? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ3NKoRLhVw
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 Hey folks. With regards to the Zak/Mearls convo above: The history of 5E is personal to many people, and as I'm the guy who wrote this post, I'm confident people know I think the goons who don't like WotC because of the Zak S poo poo are cool and valid, and that poo poo shouldn't be disregarded. That said, we've just had a conversation that basically started with "this thread will never know peace" and led to a fight between goons who immediately backed down once they had context. It's inevitable that a long thread about a popular game that routinely gets new posters is going to go over old topics, so I don't mind goons telling new posters about it, but if this keeps happening I'm gonna bring back the old thread's "don't talk about here" rule. For now, if anyone still wants to ask/talk about it they should probably go to the Industry thread.
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Dexo posted:It seems like they are in the middle of publishing and updating the changes to be fair. I was locked out of character creation for the book. Though it seems to be working now.
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So the first class guide is gonna be wizard unless someone has a request for a different class.
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How’s the new artificer? I’m getting the book tonight, and I have to make a character to replace my gunslinger forge cleric after he took a crit bullet in the neck.
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Farg posted:is there a game system that doesn't have people ignore or gloss over rules they dislike as they run the game more and more? like, is there a ttrpg where the ideal, most fun way to play is following everything completely RAW every time? I'm surprised more people haven't dropped out of the trees with blades coated in Apocalypse World derivatives, but... yeah? It kind of depends on what you mean by RAW. Like, if there's some wasteland madman who barely does language but knows ropes like brothers, is it breaking RAW to write down "when you try to climb after Grieve he's literally had his entire life to trap everything, so roll +sharp and..."? Is it breaking RAW to have a rules element that says "when you have leverage over someone and try to manipulate them, roll +hot and..." but leaves the determination of what counts as leverage and whether PCs have it entirely up to the GM? Because Apocalypse World is a game with enough information on how the rules work and how to write your own rules that it inspired an entire corpus of follow-ons.
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Open Marriage Night posted:How’s the new artificer? I’m getting the book tonight, and I have to make a character to replace my gunslinger forge cleric after he took a crit bullet in the neck. It seems stupidly powerful from reading it at low levels, but I haven't play tested it yet.
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We got updated PC stats for Orcs. It's largely the same as the Volo's stats but upgraded. No more Int Penalty, and you get two free skills from the list of Animal Handling, Insight, Intimidation, Medicine, Nature, Perception, and Survival.
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MonsterEnvy posted:We got updated PC stats for Orcs.
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Dinictus posted:Will that mean Volo's will get errata then? Almost certainly not.
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Malpais Legate posted:Almost certainly not. That's the beauty of PHB+1! You can have two different orcs now!
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Malpais Legate posted:Almost certainly not. Yeah they are being considered almost diffrent thing. Beyond referring to them as Orcs of Eberron.
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Nash posted:How many different races and subclasses does the Eberron book add? Off the top Changelings, NuOrcs/NuHalf Orcs, Kalashtar, Shifter, Warforged Only Class is Artificer, with Alchemist, Artillerist, and Battlesmith.
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Conspiratiorist posted:It'll be nice to have an official class to point Rangers towards playing instead. 
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The UA ranger is pretty good, but yeah, Artificer seems great
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I am not sure pointing them toward the rather blah Artificer would be a good idea. The Artificer started out interesting but needed work, but after the first playtest they went real hard on the boring blah and possibly just bad game design of just another spellcaster with cantrips and no actual interesting unique mechanics in their subclasses. One feature of the new Artificer might be better than the original playtest, the rest was largely a downgrade. I am not sure the companion for the one Artificer subclass is really all that better than the Ranger Beastmaster, especially with the UA on alternate class features.
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