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Tonfa posted:I hope there's no explanation or secret twin and they just realized writing off such a great character was a dumb idea and quietly swept it under the rug "I lived, bitch"
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I Before E posted:Saejima is interesting to play as now because his fighting style is clearly what eventually becomes Beast style but it doesn't have all the polish it has in 0 so it feels incomplete. 
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Apraxin posted:Always a big fan of Tanimura’s style being built around grappling and disorienting parries, in a series where the bosses are 90% immune to being grappled or disoriented. Exactly none of pornhound's moveset gimmick worked against his final boss in Y5 so you're left with the slowest and shittiest strikes in the series. 
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Tonfa posted:Exactly none of pornhound's moveset gimmick worked against his final boss in Y5 so you're left with the slowest and shittiest strikes in the series. What, did they take all his weapons away? Shinada is cool and good and effective. Akiyama is the one that sucks against bosses.
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Apraxin posted:Always a big fan of Tanimura’s style being built around grappling and disorienting parries, in a series where the bosses are 90% immune to being grappled or disoriented. His finishing blow follow up grapples still work on bosses, assume you can land a hit without it being blocked or somehow interrupted.
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I’m guessing that this might not be a big deal to most people in this thread but 0 and the Kiwami games are all going to be on Xbox game pass next year, no release date, just “early” so I’m guessing that end of March at the latest. Edit: Should I play the Kiwami games first to avoid spoilers or go straight to 0? I suppose the other consideration is does 0 make QoL changes that would be noticeably missing if I played it before Kiwami 1? Anime_Otaku fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Nov 18, 2019 |
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Anime_Otaku posted:I’m guessing that this might not be a big deal to most people in this thread but 0 and the Kiwami games are all going to be on Xbox game pass next year, no release date, just “early” so I’m guessing that end of March at the latest.  More folks getting to play this series is a good thing
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Anime_Otaku posted:I’m guessing that this might not be a big deal to most people in this thread but 0 and the Kiwami games are all going to be on Xbox game pass next year, no release date, just “early” so I’m guessing that end of March at the latest. This is great and now I don’t have to be stuck on the PS4 anymore. Xbox Stays Winning. Hoping they get the other games eventually.
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Anime_Otaku posted:I’m guessing that this might not be a big deal to most people in this thread but 0 and the Kiwami games are all going to be on Xbox game pass next year, no release date, just “early” so I’m guessing that end of March at the latest. Do them in order of release. Start with Zero. It’s the most complete, tells a great story, and you really need zero backstory for the series in order to get into it. There are things in there for fans, but they’re winks and nods instead of Major Points You’ll Miss. It’s a fantastic game and sets up the rest of the series. Kiwami 1 feels like good long DLC for Zero after that. It adds quality of life to the PS2 original and runs on the same engine as Zero, but the story and quest design was from the PS2 era and somewhat primitive. It’s worth going through, but not a highlight. Kiwami 2 is the goddamn best because it is based on a very good (and crazy) story and also incorporates the new Dragon engine for fights. Enjoy Zero, dabble in the story of Kiwami 1, and then dive back in fully for Kiwami 2.
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Skeezy posted:This is great and now I don’t have to be stuck on the PS4 anymore. Xbox Stays Winning. Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5, 2.5, and 2.8 headed to Xbox One in 2020 so that's a few.
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harperdc posted:Do them in order of release. Start with Zero. It’s the most complete, tells a great story, and you really need zero backstory for the series in order to get into it. There are things in there for fans, but they’re winks and nods instead of Major Points You’ll Miss. It’s a fantastic game and sets up the rest of the series. Hard agree. Kiwami's story loving sucks if you don't play Zero first. Without Zero, I have no clue how anyone cared about any of these characters.
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RareAcumen posted:Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5, 2.5, and 2.8 headed to Xbox One in 2020 so that's a few. Xbox is also getting every single final fantasy (that exists on modern consoles) on game pass and they're working on getting final fantasy xiv
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Unofficial English subs for the extended story trailer. Some bits in there I missed watching the original. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFp4VtsPLC4 At 9:30, seems like the guy is implying Ichiban is Secret Korean, which probably has something to do with Joon-gi Han's return from the grave. The video's ending also seems to imply that Kiryu is there specifically to serve as the Secret Ultimate Megaboss. "I am the guardian of the treasure" is absolutely some poo poo you'd hear from Estark.
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I made friends with Ryo in Judgment and he straight up copies some of Majima's moves. It's nice to have a NPC ally that can actually accomplish something. Mr. Try-and-hit-me just stands there and gets his rear end whooped every single time, in fact he sucks rear end at not being hit.
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Vikar Jerome posted:They do it better in 5, felt like 4 they were just prototyping the character swaps. Hell yeah 5's combat is great.
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I found a Shenmue reference in the Yakuza 4 remaster. Kiryu gets handed an adult video, the title of which is something like "Girls of Yokosuka Gone Wild!" starring "Ryoko Hazuki" or something along those lines. For anyone unfamiliar, Ryo Hazuki is the protagonist of Shenmue and he lives in Yokosuka.
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Captain Walker posted:Unofficial English subs for the extended story trailer. Some bits in there I missed watching the original.Kiryu is there specifically to serve as the Secret Ultimate Megaboss. "I am the guardian of the treasure" is absolutely some poo poo you'd hear from Estark. I had a feeling that would be the case, and that this character would basically be the new Amon from now on. That's in the original Yakuza 4 also.  man nurse posted:I found a Shenmue reference in the Yakuza 4 remaster.
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Munakata is probably the worst boss fight in the whole series and I had the bullet blocking items this time lol.
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The end boss of 5 makes like no sense but it's was also basically just an excuse for them to cram as many unrealistic ridiculous QTE fighting sequences into the game as humanly possible and it's beautiful for that
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5's end boss is so bad that even HE'S surprised that he's the final boss.
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And Tyler Too! posted:I made friends with Ryo in Judgment and he straight up copies some of Majima's moves. It's nice to have a NPC ally that can actually accomplish something. Mr. Try-and-hit-me just stands there and gets his rear end whooped every single time, in fact he sucks rear end at not being hit.
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For the most part Ryan, TAHM, and Tashiro are nice distractions, but Ryo will straight up carve a dude.
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The best thing about Ryo was the brief OH poo poo thought when you first see him in the bar considering what went down most recently in the story.
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Lol I'd forgotten that exclusive of the *TRUE VILLAIN* bullshit in Saejima's backstory, the hit he went down for was him specifically trying to whack Yoshiharu Ueno and failing, but killing eighteen Ueno Seiwa goons as collateral damage on the way to shooting Ueno point-blank and then leaving without checking if his mortal nemesis was still breathing or not. Why does everyone call him Eighteen-Count Saejima instead of giant gently caress-up Saejima.
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Apraxin posted:Lol I'd forgotten that exclusive of the *TRUE VILLAIN* bullshit in Saejima's backstory, the hit he went down for was him specifically trying to whack Yoshiharu Ueno and failing, but killing eighteen Ueno Seiwa goons as collateral damage on the way to shooting Ueno point-blank and then leaving without checking if his mortal nemesis was still breathing or not. Katsuragi does kill them all in the end, and Saejima had no way of knowing he had loving rubber bullets I really enjoyed Yakuza 4 but there was a lot of silly poo poo in the plot
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Carlosologist posted:Katsuragi does kill them all in the end, and Saejima had no way of knowing he had loving rubber bullets Rubber bullets that automatically knock everyone out regardless of where they were shot it's so loving dumb and not in a fun Yakuza way, just in a "wait this makes zero sense" way
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Apraxin posted:Lol I'd forgotten that exclusive of the *TRUE VILLAIN* bullshit in Saejima's backstory, the hit he went down for was him specifically trying to whack Yoshiharu Ueno and failing, but killing eighteen Ueno Seiwa goons as collateral damage on the way to shooting Ueno point-blank and then leaving without checking if his mortal nemesis was still breathing or not. Only like 3 maybe 4 people even know what actually happened. Everyone else just knows Saejima went in and 17 people died, it doesn't really seem like that much of a stretch to assume that clearly he murdered nearly a dozen and a half people.
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Kasuga is getting a bunch of Yakuza character costume DLC but in Japan it's another retailer specific thing.
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Policenaut posted:Kasuga is getting a bunch of Yakuza character costume DLC but in Japan it's another retailer specific thing. 100% rocking that Date outfit for most of the game. edit: oh wait, it will probably be for premium adventure right, thought they were job classes or something for a second.
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The most annoying thing about the Saijima twist for me is that it doesn't change a drat thing. Regardless of whether or not he ACTUALLY killed all those people, he still carried out what he thought was the murder of 18 people. It's played like, "it's okay, he didn't really kill them, see?". Yeah, but he tried to, and did a good job of trying to. And he's still partially responsible for their deaths. It's a pointless twist that attempts to change your perspective in a couple ways, but all it really accomplishes is setting up a bad guy to get beat up.
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I finally wrapped up Judgment, what a wild ride that was. That game needs a sequel, immediately.
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PhoenixFlaccus posted:The most annoying thing about the Saijima twist for me is that it doesn't change a drat thing. Regardless of whether or not he ACTUALLY killed all those people, he still carried out what he thought was the murder of 18 people. It's played like, "it's okay, he didn't really kill them, see?". Yeah, but he tried to, and did a good job of trying to. And he's still partially responsible for their deaths. It's a pointless twist that attempts to change your perspective in a couple ways, but all it really accomplishes is setting up a bad guy to get beat up. I've said it before but it feels like the Yakuza team is terrified of letting the criminal protagonists of their crime games do anything worse than punch someone a lot
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Almost as if the actual Yakuza had a vested interest in pushing the narrative that the Yakuza are criminals with a heart of gold that are overall a force for good.
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PhoenixFlaccus posted:The most annoying thing about the Saijima twist for me is that it doesn't change a drat thing. Regardless of whether or not he ACTUALLY killed all those people, he still carried out what he thought was the murder of 18 people. It's played like, "it's okay, he didn't really kill them, see?". Yeah, but he tried to, and did a good job of trying to. And he's still partially responsible for their deaths. It's a pointless twist that attempts to change your perspective in a couple ways, but all it really accomplishes is setting up a bad guy to get beat up. That's not how I see it at all. I take it more as another betrayal, as not only has he been in prison for 20 years for this, not only is his boss on the streets and out of his mind, he didn't even accomplish what he intended. His life is ruined, and he had even that one mark of honor taken from him.
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Akuma posted:Almost as if the actual Yakuza had a vested interest in pushing the narrative that the Yakuza are criminals with a heart of gold that are overall a force for good. This was mostly true up until a couple years ago; Y0 is almost a tonal 180 from previous depictions of the yakuza, and subsequent RGG stories followed suit. In 0, the Tojo and Omi of 1988 are populated almost exclusively by thugs, crooks, and all-around assholes. You know, like the real yakuza, especially in that time period when they held much more power. Fast forward two decades, to the moment Sugai and Someya first appear in 6. Suddenly it's a race between two obvious jackasses to be the first to earn a beating from the Fourth Chairman. Then the last two battles of the game see Kiryu openly fighting high-ranking members of the Tojo Clan, the Yomei Alliance, and the Liberal Democratic Party at the same time, because IIRC the Evil Plan was to essentially combine all those organizations. He nearly picks a fight with the Prime Minister from his hospital bed. One thing I find interesting is that Y6 and Persona 5 were in development around the same time, and both have a much more negative portrayal of the status quo than you'd expect from stories taking place in contemporary Japan. I honestly have no idea if this due to the kind of societal anxiety that made P5 such a hit, or if any Japanese media is following suit other than AAA games from Sega.
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I Before E posted:That's not how I see it at all. I take it more as another betrayal, as not only has he been in prison for 20 years for this, not only is his boss on the streets and out of his mind, he didn't even accomplish what he intended. His life is ruined, and he had even that one mark of honor taken from him. I see what you mean but at the same time I can't bring myself to care because my emotional investment in Saejima's storyline in 4 is broken by that plot twist being complete and total clownshoes
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Hey, so I am way at the end of Yakuza 0 doing the premium adventure mode. I want to get the CP to unlock my legendary styles but due to using it on the business sidequests (mistakenly I guess) I'm like 11 short and all I have left is minigame CP, which I really can't stand grinding. Don't get me wrong, the fact that there is a Mahjong parlor is awesome, but the idea of playing it or the other gambling minigames to get cp sounds like the most boring grindy nonsense. SO........I guess what I'm asking is there any other way to get the necessary CP, like can I reset certain substories or something?
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Madmarker posted:Hey, so I am way at the end of Yakuza 0 doing the premium adventure mode. I want to get the CP to unlock my legendary styles but due to using it on the business sidequests (mistakenly I guess) I'm like 11 short and all I have left is minigame CP, which I really can't stand grinding. Don't get me wrong, the fact that there is a Mahjong parlor is awesome, but the idea of playing it or the other gambling minigames to get cp sounds like the most boring grindy nonsense. SO........I guess what I'm asking is there any other way to get the necessary CP, like can I reset certain substories or something? Pocket Circuit is simple and gives tons of cp. Also, dont forget about all those medicine and eat food items ones.
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RareAcumen posted:Pocket Circuit is simple and gives tons of cp. Also, dont forget about all those medicine and eat food items ones. I have eaten everything at every restaraunt and completed everything for pocket circuit.....literally the only stuff left is the gambling and mahjong minigame stuff
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