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I just found the thread, and I’m sure this has been answered somewhere within its 169 pages, but I’m starting from page one. Can anyone recommend any good podcasts about Middle-Earth history?
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This may or may not be answering the question, but I've been wanting to tell the thread of one of those moments of unexpected hilarity in Prof. Olsen's Sauron Defeated series, near the end of the Notion Club Papers segment (god I've been obsessed with the NCP since I was in high school). It's the part where it talks about the visions of the great wave washing over Ireland and carrying the harried Numenorean ship in to land, with Elendil and his sons standing on the poop and clinging to the masts and wailing. His delivery is seldom intended to get laughs, but the way he describes the imagery of this scene — he says something like, "This is meant to convey a more epic, mythic stature for these characters, and it wasn't until just this time through it that I really got the texture of what these figures are experiencing, in that this is not a 'deliverance' or them being saved from the wreck of Numenor by the grace of the Valar... because I never really registered the terror of this situation, where they're fleeing for their lives and totally out of control. I never really quite got the full visual image of these grand mythic figures holding on to the railing for dear life and going AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH" I keep thinking back at that and cracking up, it's great E: It's in MSA024 (Sauron Defeated class 13), about 35:00 thru 43:00 Data Graham fucked around with this message at 15:24 on Nov 19, 2019 |
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Silmarillion seminar starts here : https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-tolkien-professor/id320513707?mt=2#episodeGuid=TolkienProf_070 I think that one has students making live comments which is .. uh .. uneven in quality since some people can barely talk . He eventually ditches letting them talk and just reads comments which is like 10000x better. (Some student comments are really good)
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You can also start here https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-prancing-pony-podcast-tolkien-and-middle-earth/id1082170831?i=1000364738766 These guys are way way way way way way way way less academic and in depth
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Since Tolkien was a scholar of Germanic languages, is it intentional that Sauron's fake elf identity was named "The Lord of Gifts," as double entendre about giving people poison presents?
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Joke Miriam posted:Since Tolkien was a scholar of Germanic languages, is it intentional that Sauron's fake elf identity was named "The Lord of Gifts," as double entendre about giving people poison presents? It’s possible. I don’t know of anywhere that Tolkien comments on it, but it wouldn’t be out of character for him. I think the concept of “Annatar” is likely to be related to the kenning “ring-giver” for one’s overlord or king also.
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Same goes for "The Land of Gift" in that case. Seems pretty unlikely that he wouldn't have made the connection, but I also think if he meant to play on it a bit he would have added some elements about Númenor being a tainted or fatally flawed land from the start, rather than something only made that way by Sauron's late-stage influence.
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He likes (liked) puns so probably. But even if he didn’t intend it who cares ! It’s still cool
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Yeah playing the death-of-the-author game with Tolkien is maddening
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Not playing a game just saying even unintentional puns are funny and interesting !!
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Though by that token I've always been weirded out by names that seem really difficult NOT to read as some kind of pun or double entendre. Like Farmer Maggot. How does he just come up with a name like that and not expect people to think of actual maggots? Or to associate them with him? And expect him to make a big deal of it in the narrative / characterization? Same goes for Took, and (famously) Túna. He seems to have had a certain kind of wall up in his mind that allowed him to deploy what he considered to be the right name for something, regardless of what connotations it might have in English. Which is a skill I desperately lack. Every time I try to come up with a name for a fictional character I immediately tie myself in knots thinking of all the ways it could be misconstrued or misconnoted; I basically play the "Bart, Dart, Cart, Ee-art... nope, don't see a problem with that" game with every single name I think of. And even then I'm let down by my lack of pop culture awareness, which is why after agonizing for a week to think of the right name for a cowboy character I settled on "Shane", unaware that there is a famous movie cowboy by that name 
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Thanks for the podcast tips, precious. We are really enjoying both of them.
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MrMojok posted:Thanks for the podcast tips, precious. We are really enjoying both of them. The current LOTR seminar is amazing. Skip the first 10 mins (announcements) and the last 30 or so (mmo stuff) Literally more than you thought you could possibly think about LOTR There is probably now ... uh 240 hours of content on that alone ? Lmao . He hasn’t got to the council of Elrond yet
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euphronius posted:The current LOTR seminar is amazing. Skip the first 10 mins (announcements) and the last 30 or so (mmo stuff) Hahaha, really? I'm catching up, currently about 9 months behind and he hasn't gotten to the Ford of Bruinen yet. I thought for sure he'd at least be into the Council stuff by now. And yeah, skip ahead to the start of actual discussion and don't bother with anything after he says goodbye to Twitter or whatever.
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Earendil the mariner is 6 weeks in itself The dinner takes awhile.
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euphronius posted:Literally more than you thought you could possibly think about LOTR Mostly because I don't need to spend ten minutes thinking about the choice of a capital M instead of a lowercase M, and other such matters of the Bleeding Obvious, but enjoy the kiddie pool there
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You never told us how much money you gave Olsen
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I have some kind of LOTR disease. I read the books a few times from age 12-30, but the last time I read them all start to finish was right before the films came out. I hadn't really thought about the books or the films too much for several years now. But recently my daughter suggested we marathon the extended editions, and now we are doing a read-through where we get on the phone and discuss after each four or five chapters. The rest of my free time is spent listening to the podcasts you guys recommended, and making LOTR-inspired characters in Skyrim. Also got the Sil on my Kindle... I have not read that one since I was like 13. It's like all I care about is LOTR, it has become life itself e: so far the amazing thing with the read-through has been just how MANY things were changed for the films. I guess I realized this in 2001-2003, when I saw each film on opening night, and many more times later, but I had forgotten (some things that should not have been forgotten were lost) e2: Also, I wanted to share the single funniest moment of the Bakshi adaptation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0iWxG907jg MrMojok fucked around with this message at 03:25 on Nov 23, 2019 |
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Funniest among many, of course http://flyingmoose.org/tolksarc/bakshi/bakshi.htm oh my god I feel like the bits on this page are gonna break under my mouse they're so old
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euphronius posted:Literally more than you thought you could possibly think about LOTR
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Yeah, upon further review, I think Corey Olson's podcast is a bit much for me.
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https://twitter.com/LilituLee/status/1090012900679446529?s=20
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I went looking and here is that quiz, apparently.
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Oh well, 90% is fairly decent...Lucky for me, I re-read The Silmarillion recently.
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Octy posted:Oh well, 90% is fairly decent...Lucky for me, I re-read The Silmarillion recently. 90% also, because I mixed up Erestor and Crestor and Effexor. Oh well.
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90%, I could've sworn Narmacil was a Numenorean king or other
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Shibawanko posted:90%, I could've sworn Narmacil was a Numenorean king or other poo poo that's the exact same one that got me, drat Numenoreans and their strange genealogy's
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Seems like products nowadays like to take names from Tolkien. My mother drives a Daihatsu Sirion
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Narmacil was deffo a king of Gondor or two
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skasion posted:Narmacil was deffo a king of Gondor or two Whoah, you're right: http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Narmacil_I Quiz is wrong then e: weird I tried it again and now it's been corrected? Or maybe I just misremembered which one I clicked
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Yeah same happened to me. Also, that guy is a webcomic creep. ChubbyChecker fucked around with this message at 15:43 on Dec 1, 2019 |
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Got 80%. It is hard after you get past the obvious easy to remember Tolkien names.
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I don’t know why I find this dumb joke so funny, but I do: https://www.reddit.com/r/lotrmemes/comments/e6flcp/plot_twist/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
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Elevensies for the hobbits in their Shire so fair,
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https://www.tor.com/2019/12/04/a-military-historian-breaks-down-the-siege-of-gondor-in-peter-jacksons-the-return-of-the-king/ Has links to the original 6-part series on the guy's blog. Excellently chewy stuff!
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