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Winter Stormer
Oct 17, 2012

Smirking_Serpent posted:

AITA for picking a film with excessive nudity for movie night?
Plus no one [...] objected to it at the time.
Setting aside the dude's dumb argument, I can't think of a value of "it" for which this is not a lovely defense

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Streak
May 16, 2004

by Nyc_Tattoo

Winter Stormer posted:

Setting aside the dude's dumb argument, I can't think of a value of "it" for which this is not a lovely defense

Nobody objected to it when you made this post, but here I am objecting to it now.

Elissimpark
May 20, 2010

Bring me the head of Auguste Escoffier.

Admiral Ray posted:

Experience dickstory like never before! Build yourself the dick of...Rameses the Great!

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: a vast and trunkless penis made of stone

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words

Pinecone Sample posted:

AITA for not wanting to pay for someone's college?
Be prepared for way more of these kind of posts over the next 20 years, as millennials and Z learn that "I love her like a daughter" means "she's whatever I guess" and chosen family means jack poo poo

Smirking_Serpent
Aug 27, 2009

AITA for refusing to meet my dad’s new gf, but agreeing to meet my mom’s new bf?

I am 23/F. My parents [both 47] divorced 18 years ago. In those 18 years my dad has had a steady flow of young girlfriends and fiancés moving in with him. I never even got to spend the night with him when I was a kid because there was always some girl living there and there wasn’t room for me in his small apartment.

On the polar end of the spectrum is my mom. I do not think she has even been on a date since the divorce, until a few months ago. Her whole life revolved around providing for and entertaining me. A few months ago (4ish?) she told me she was seeing somebody named “Scott” and that it was kind of serious. I have never seen my mom look giddy before – it warmed my heart. She then tells me that he is 68 (her dad’s age), and to not freak out, but that if I was weirded out, she would call it off. I assured her that while I think it’s kind of weird that he is 2 decades older, that I am ecstatic for her. (I AM! This woman deserves it.) She cried happy tears, and we agreed that I would meet him soon.

Well, around the same time my mom started dating Scott, my dad got a new gf named “Haley.” She has already moved in with him, and I have been refusing to meet her. The reason why I don’t want to meet her is what makes me an rear end in a top hat... It’s because of her age! She is one year younger than me. He is 47, and she is 22. I’m completely grossed out. Honestly, it makes me feel like my dad is a huge creep.

My dad keeps pointing out how I’m a hypocrite because I’ll meet my mom’s “creepy boyfriend,” but not his girlfriend. And he will say, “If you think I’m creepy for dating somebody 20 years younger than me, then why are you okay with Scott doing it??” He made me feel kind of lovely.

I mean, he is right… the age gap is almost the same… but his girlfriend is YOUNGER THAN ME. She is 22. Scott might be old enough to be my mom’s dad… but my mom is almost 50, she’s not still in college. And my mom is far from naïve. Dad's relationship just seems so much ickier to me!! Honestly, I'm starting to look back on my dad's relationship patterns and wonder if he's not like a predator or something. But if he is, then is Scott too??

I am 100% going to meet Scott, and unless y’all convince me otherwise, I am not going to meet Haley. (It's nothing against her)

So Reddit, AITA?


lol her dad has already dated two of her (former) friends and has an apartment near a college campus

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!
Your father has brought shame upon your family.

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


tell your dad that (68/2)+7 < 47 but (47/2)+7 > 22.

:colbert:

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Smirking_Serpent posted:

AITA for picking a film with excessive nudity for movie night?

Well he had picked Ichi The Killer a few weeks prior, and that film contains excessive grizzly violence.

More than The Revenant?

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde

Smirking_Serpent posted:

I 943F) heard something i should not have when my daughter's (17F) boyfriend (17M) slept over.

loving ow.

Cough Drop The Beat
Jan 22, 2012

by Lowtax

Smirking_Serpent posted:

AITA for refusing to meet my dad’s new gf, but agreeing to meet my mom’s new bf?

I hope her dad gets run over by a bus.

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019


Turns out the sort of mother that will creep on her daughters conversations for over an hour is maybe not the best mother. Who knew?

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde

Cough Drop The Beat posted:

I hope her dad gets run over by a bus.

At this rate it'll be a school bus.

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse

Smirking_Serpent posted:

AITA for keeping and using my ex-boyfriends dick molded dildo?

So obviously by the title this is a NSFW one but just in case you somehow needed another warning there you go... So with my job I end up doing a lot of traveling. So awhile ago I was dating a guy and before one of my trips he surprised me with a dildo he had specially made to be an exact replica of his dick. He said it was so, "Even though you are away you can still gently caress me whenever you want." It was more of a joke gift but it was actually good quality and his dick was the perfect size so I actually started using it.

​Well things didn't work out and we ended up breaking up. Flash forward to now, I still have the same toy and I am seeing a new guy. My current boyfriend is really big on using toys during sex which often includes that dildo. He however didn't know where the origin of it was. I wasn't explicitly trying to keep it a secret it just wasn't anything that was brought up.

​Well Saturday night my girlfriend shows up to pick me up. I was just finishing up my makeup so I asked her to go grab something out of my room for me while I finished up. Well I forgot that me and my boyfriend got lazy last night and didn't put away the sex toys. So she sees it and yells, "holy poo poo, you still have that dildo of Brad's (not real name) dick? I'm surprised Jason (also not real name) is cool with that!" She didn't realize that Jason was actually there just in the other room on the computer. Well he hears that and gives one of whose, "Wait what?" responses.

​So everything comes out and he is super pissed that I am still, "being hosed by my ex boyfriend." So am I an rear end in a top hat for not getting rid of a perfectly good sex toy?

Again!?

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!

MarcusSA posted:

Yes it’s pretty weird.

She raises a fair point, if it has no emotional attachment then it doesn't really matter whose dick was used for the mold.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

QuarkJets posted:

She raises a fair point, if it has no emotional attachment then it doesn't really matter whose dick was used for the mold.

body safe ones are fairly expensive unless the dude was crossfit instructor level tiny. Even a normal-guy-size 6-7" one is gonna be $50+ on the extremely low end.

Peaceful Anarchy
Sep 18, 2005
sXe
I am the math man.

QuarkJets posted:

She raises a fair point, if it has no emotional attachment then it doesn't really matter whose dick was used for the mold.
She at no point raises this fair point. She says it was given to her so she could gently caress him anytime, describes it as "the perfect size" and then it's "I just never brought it up." There's no mention of how long ago they broke up, whether he's still around, how she feels about him or anything else about emotional attachment or lack thereof.

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

FAUXTON posted:

body safe ones are fairly expensive unless the dude was crossfit instructor level tiny. Even a normal-guy-size 6-7" one is gonna be $50+ on the extremely low end.

I thought the average was 4". This is very unsettling.

cumshitter
Sep 27, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Dick mold guy is like Johnny Dickseed, traveling the land and leaving copies of his perfect dick for men and women to enjoy. Or turn into dick cider.

Admiralty Flag
Jun 7, 2007

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022

One more data point...

When going through foster parent training, in the module on traumatized children and teenagers, we were familiarized with frequent behaviors and coping mechanisms. Unfortunately, one of the more frequent behaviors for girls (either pre or post pubescent) who have been sexually exploited or assaulted is public humping or grinding of furniture, pillows, and/or people, the last of which was given to us in some detail as a cautionary tale.

This story is all through some Reddiot's lens so there's no way to be certain but sexual abuse is definitely a possibility, though not to say all female pillowhumpers are the result of mods knowing or the like.

DeadMansSuspenders
Jan 10, 2012

I wanna be your left hand man

Smirking_Serpent posted:

AITA for picking a film with excessive nudity for movie night?
Pretty funny because Ichi the Killer is of course about someone that gets off sexually to violence, especially sexual violence. The opening scene has the title character splatter his ejactulate into a number 1 (ichi) if I remember correctly.

MAKE NO BABBYS
Jan 28, 2010

kru posted:

I mean, corned beef is extremely Irish. Also, the kilt is much more traditional Scottish that it is Irish so

Not actually “traditional” Scottish but more an affectation of the rich in the mid 1800s.

Smirking_Serpent
Aug 27, 2009

AITA for walking out of an intervention my family surprised me with?

Basically, I think everyone’s overreacting.

I’m 23 and I got incredibly drunk at a party two weekends ago and ended up with alcohol poisoning. I do relatively drink a lot, but only in social settings.

I spent the rest of weekend in the hospital recovering. It was a one time stupid mistake.

Yesterday, I went over to my parent’s house for dinner.

When I walked in, they were all sitting in the living room with somebody I’d never seen before.

I asked what was going on and my brother told me to sit down. I did and the man I didn’t know started talking.

To summarize, he said that my family was worried for me and wanted me to go to treatment.

I got upset and said that everyone was being over dramatic and that this was ridiculous. I said that I realized that I had made a mistake drinking that much but this was overkill. I stood up and walked out at that point.

My mom ran out after me with the interventionist and said that they only did this because they loved me.

I said that everyone was acting crazy and I hopped in my car and went home.

My brother has been texting me begging me to reconsider but I haven’t answered.

Everyone is crazy overreacting. Getting that drunk is not a normal thing for me. It just happened once and I regret it. I have a good job and I look after myself. I don’t think I need rehab or that intervention.

That said, maybe I did handle the intervention the wrong way. I maybe could’ve responded in a way that made them feel better instead of blowing up.

AITA for walking out?

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!

Peaceful Anarchy posted:

She at no point raises this fair point. She says it was given to her so she could gently caress him anytime, describes it as "the perfect size" and then it's "I just never brought it up." There's no mention of how long ago they broke up, whether he's still around, how she feels about him or anything else about emotional attachment or lack thereof.

she makes it clear that it wasn't a secret, she just never brought it up because it no longer mattered; the original owner of the dick was irrelevant. That suggests a total lack of emotional attachment

MAKE NO BABBYS
Jan 28, 2010

SirSamVimes posted:

Does... he think people actually gently caress in sex scenes?

I mean, some sex scenes are real, especially in art house films. If you were into them or did a quick google you’d have a huge list of “non porn” films with real sex scenes.

E: and I don’t just mean insane hosed up films based on Marquis de Sade or Caligula or whatever gnarly Korean films are popular these days.

MAKE NO BABBYS fucked around with this message at 10:43 on Nov 20, 2019

DeadMansSuspenders
Jan 10, 2012

I wanna be your left hand man

Make sure to peep that relationship duration.
I [20F] broke up with my boyfriend [26M] because he suggested a MMF threesome

quote:

We were happy and everything seemed great. We were trying new things to spice up our sex life, like choking, 24 hours of control, (...) and it was really working. We've been dating for 4 years.

Last night, when I came home from college, I was pissed off. I hate being disrespected and a male friend of a friend had been really rude with me. Roger (my boyfriend) was cooking and looked really happy, so I asked him what happened. He told me that he had an idea to improve our sex life: a loving threesome. I was like "whoa, what?" and he said "oh, don't worry baby, it will be me, you and another male. We will have turns as I don't want to touch him and you'll love it. It's every woman's secret wish". I remember seeing red and said "Well, you can go find another gf to do that. I'm out, I'm over" and went to my room. He followed me, looking really confused (I can't blame him, I didn't really make sense and didn't explain my reaction) and asked what I meant. Then, I told him the truth, when I was able to speak (I was really trembling and trying not to cry): I said that what he proposed showed me that we were incompatible and that it would be best for us to break up right now, as to not waste our time. That neither one of us is right and wrong, we just have different types of love and that - because of the way that I see loving a person (I enhanced this) - knowing that he was able to share me with another person and not be jealous, hurted me too much, as I can only deal with monogamous relationships and associate being able to share someone you love emotionally and physically with not loving enough (I'd like to reinforce that this is my opinion and my own view. I feel this way and it's ok that other people have another type of view. It's just how I feel) and that I could never deal with the fact that he was able to do so, because I knew that from this time on I would always think that he didn't love me enough. He said that I was being dramatic and I said "yes, I know, I'm sorry. But it's better to break up now as we definitely have different goals in mind and different approaches in life and love, so it's better to part ways while there are no hard feelings. You don't deserve to suffer". He started to cry and I felt really horrible, but knew that I was too weak and that the possibility of him not loving me would always haunt me and I'd make our life horrible. I assume 100% responsability as I'm the one who can't control my feelings.

When he fell asleep, I grabbed some things (only my objects and not really much, as I didn't have time and energy) and I went to my friend's house (a friend from high school, named Rachel, that doesn't make a lot of questions and I'm relieved for that. I'm not prepared to talk). He is been texting and calling me non-stop and has already talked to all my friends, asking for my location (Rachel said that she didn't know about me). All his messages say "sorry", "please, I don't want to break up", "I had already bought our engagement ring", "I want to have children with you, you'd be a great mother and wife" and things like that. I'm feeling really bad as I was the one who caused these scene and now doubts had started to creep into my mind and I'm not so sure of what to do. I love him dearly and I also imagined my life with me, being married and having children with him and it breaks my heart to know that I won't wake up with him by my side. However, I also know myself and I know that it is unfair to make him deal with me when I'm insecure and full of doubts about his love, as I know I won't be able to eliminate the image of him wanting to share me with another man of my mind. The stress from not having where to sleep is also making me weaker (I lived with him and don't have my family nearby), which makes it harder to think and breathe. Have I been too impulsive? Am I at the wrong and should come back? How can I fix me?

tl;dr: My bf suggested a MMF threesome. I interpreted it as a way of saying that he didn't love enough as for me "healthy amounts of jealously" (not mixing it possessiveness as I hate it and it is really a deal breaker for me. It is different in my opinion!) and broke up with him. Not he's begging me to come back, but I don't know what to do. I feel broken without him, it's hard to breathe and I am a mess, always crying, but I'm afraid that going back means a long term of sufferement for both of us, because I think that this shows that we have incompatible ways of loving each other. He is the best person in the world, really better that me and all other people that I know, and I don't want him to suffer, but I don't know what will make him suffer less. What can I do?

edit: We had talked about threesomes and I said that I didn't ever want one, because I'm very jealous and would not be able to know that he was enjoying having sex with another woman. I explained that I associated sharing with not loving enough and I also explained that my father betrayed my mother and that really hosed up my perception of love and caring and protection and I think that another person in a 2 people relationship is enough to destroy it because of that. At the time, he said he understood what I meant. This was 2 years ago and he never approached the subject again. So, when he suggested that, he already knew my opinion, that's why I didn't explain it again (and I was not capable to do so, as all I could remember was my dad's affair).

DeadMansSuspenders
Jan 10, 2012

I wanna be your left hand man

Me [25 M] with my wife [23F], she informs me at sisters wedding she had slept with best man (long)

quote:

The time frame is important here. We have been married for 3 years. We were together as a couple for 2 years before that. So we've been together for about 5 years.

Two weekends ago her sister got married and of course my wife was in the wedding party. So as you would expect she spent the two weeks prior to the wedding helping her sister get everything ready. No big deal at all, she kept me informed and I knew this was going to happen.

She took that Wednesday - Friday off of work to help her and in fact stayed with her three days.

I certainly know her sister but I barely know the guy who is now my brother in law, in fact only met him a few times but he seems nice enough.

I show up Saturday morning a few hours before the ceremony in hopes of stealing just a few minutes to see her, not wanting to intrude on the day since I know she is busy but I hadn't seen her since Tuesday. She see's me outside of her parents house and sends her brother out to tell me that she will come out and see me at the car. Which I thought was odd but whatever.

She finally comes out and sits in the seat next to me and gives me a kiss but instead of acting happy to see me or whatever she tells me that she has to talk to me and she doesn't want it to ruin her sisters day.

She informs me that at the reception (if I still want to go) I might hear some things about the best man and her and she didn't want it to be awkward or weird. I just kind of sat there stunned.

She said that about 4 years ago she had a fling with him and that it didn't mean anything but she was aware that by nature I'm somewhat jealous and she wanted me to know in advance so that if I heard something that I wouldn't be surprised.

Again I just kind of sat there, this was not how I thought my morning would go but I told her I appreciated knowing it and that it certainly wasn't a big deal now.

She went back in the house and I went to eat lunch and decided to meet her at the church. As I'm eating and reading my phone it dawns on me, she said she had a fling with him 4 years ago and we've been together 5. My first reaction was to blow it off and think that she just told me the wrong time but the more I thought about it the more I started to remember about a year and a half of us being together she had a phase where she was really sketchy about her behavior, wasn't available when she normally was and went on two weekend camping trips that were with friends from work.

Of course I'm a little knotted up over this but I know I have a long day ahead of me. I go to the wedding and sit there watching everything. After the wedding they have a line that you walk by and congratulate the bride and groom and the wedding party is standing in line as well. My wife is standing with some other guy (I don't know him at all) but the best man was there and I just went down the line and acted like no big deal.

Get to the reception and it takes forever for them to come because of photo's. She finally gets there and sits with me. I decided not to say anything as I didn't want to distract from the day. But instead of just letting it go she then tells me that each of the groomsmen and bridesmaids are going to dance and that she is going to be dancing with him. I ask why when she was not his partner for the party and she said that the maid of honor and her partner were actually married and wanted to dance with each other. At this point I'm a little more than perturbed but I try and not let it show. Thankfully I was smart enough to not drink because I freely admit I'm an angry drunk so I know when not to even partake.

She talks to everyone around her and then the dance comes and he comes over and extends his arm and she gets up. I try not to watch and in fact I make it a point not to. She comes back with him in tow and they are joking like the best of friends. She decides that it would be a good idea to introduce us and while I didn't say to gently caress off like I wanted to my greeting to him was probably than cordial. But it did not deter him from sitting and talking with her for a few minutes. The more they sat and talked and reminisced about old times and places the madder I got. Eventually I got up and went to the bathroom and when I came back he was gone.

She decided to tell me that she thought I was rude which was not what I was all about hearing at the moment. I told her that this wasn't the time or place to talk about it but rest assured we would talk later. She sat there and then said that she was going to change cloths and as soon as she got back she was telling her sister that we were leaving because I had ruined her day but she didn't want me to ruin her sisters day as well. I told her that I was perfectly capable of not being a bother to her or her sister the rest of the day and that I did not want to be the cause of any drama so I would prefer to just stay.

She went and changed clothes and then came back all in a huff. Now understand I have not said a word to her I even shook the other guy's hand. I guess I just looked miserable so that is what she was basing this off of. She was adamant about not staying and so I said that if she really wanted to go we could go but if she would rather stay I would be happy to stay or if she would like since I came in my own car I would leave so she could stay.

She at first said that we should stay but then said if I couldn't act any better I should leave. I asked how I was acting and she said it was obvious I was trying to be like a silverback gorilla wanting to fight. I didn't know whether to laugh in her face or be offended.

I went back in and sat down while she mingled with the other guest. I talked with her brother for awhile but then ultimately ended up back at our table talking with her grandma.

We leave at the same time and I arrived home just before she did. I was sitting in the living room waiting on her when she came in and did not beat around the bush.

I simply asked her to retell me the story about this other guy and she said it word for word like before.

After sitting and looking at her for a time I just said are you sure about the time frame and she said she was. I then reminded her that we had been together for 5 years so this "fling" was well over a year into our being together.

What happened next I can't really put into words. Instead of being flustered or denying or anything she simply said "I know".

So I asked her to explain and she tells me that they worked together and that it was just a physical thing and she felt like we weren't in a great place at the time and that she never had any feelings for him and never had any real intentions of leaving me, she just was having some fun for a few weekends. She said that it was probably a mistake on her part to tell me now but she didn't want me to get blindsided.

I did not take this the way she thought I would I guess. We had a very large argument and ended when she told me I was being a child about all of this. That we were married and this happened way before that and our life together now has nothing to do with him or that time.

Well two things. One I adamantly disagree about this has no bearing on us. She loving cheated on me and doesn't even have the god drat decency to feel guilty about it.

Two I hate being told I am childish when I get upset over something. It pisses me off to no end because that is her way of acting superior to me.

I told her I needed time to think and she told me there was nothing to think about. We loved each other and this didn't change anything.

That was two weeks ago and I still am not over it. She has been trying the past few days to get me to talk to her but I admit that for whatever reason I'm not viewing her the same as I did before this.

Part of me is like that this is stupid, it happened a few years ago and we are married now and there hasn't been any problems at all.

But then part of me is like I just found out she cheated on me and it hurts like a mother fucker and what makes it worse is that instead of trying to understand how I feel she is trying to guilt me into just not even thinking about it.

I don't know what to do.

I'm sorry for the length I probably should have cut out some of the wedding stuff but it all came out at once.

tl;dr: Wife had a "fling" when she was my girlfriend, thinks I should just be okay with it but I'm not.

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!
Marriage is obviously a reset button, if you cheated before getting married it doesn’t count anymore

VanSandman
Feb 16, 2011
SWAP.AVI EXCHANGER

DeadMansSuspenders posted:

Me [25 M] with my wife [23F], she informs me at sisters wedding she had slept with best man (long)


The balls on this woman.

Incoherence
May 22, 2004

POYO AND TEAR

DeadMansSuspenders posted:

Me [25 M] with my wife [23F], she informs me at sisters wedding she had slept with best man (long)

I'm pretty sure she'd have been much better off not saying anything to him until after the wedding had ended: now she made him upset at the wedding AND he's divorcing her.

Also, you know, not cheating on him, but there are levels of poor life choices here.

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde
Hopefully I'm not stepping on DeadMansSuspenders suspenders, but I found an Update. This one is actually Long.

(update)Me [25 M] with my wife [23F], she informs me at sisters wedding she had slept with best man (long)

quote:

First I want to clarify something from my first post that I really did not spell out very well, it doesn't have any real baring on anything but for some reason it bugs me that I made this part sort of murky.

The maid of honor (not my wife) was married to the groomsman who my wife walked down the aisle with. There were some people who felt my wife was trying to arrange the dance but I do know for fact that this part was legit, however it doesn't mean she didn't try and offer to let them dance or any other form of manipulation but I just wanted to try and clear that part up a little.

I'm here because I have gotten honest to God over 40 request for an up date since last week. Thank you for your guys concern on this and I wish I had some really ballsy statement to make about how I stood tall and kicked her to the curb but sadly that is just not what happened.

To be blunt I'm in limbo.

There have been developments but all they have done is make it harder for me to decide. Last week I was mostly angry then as the weekend progressed I became mostly sad. I want to be able to hate her and flip that switch that tells me I'm being walked on and am a sucker but it's just very hard for me to do that because I still love her and this is ripping me apart.

Here is what has happened of any consequence. She finally came to the realization that I was not going to just get over this. This then brought her to the realization that I might want out of the marriage. This then brought on a near nervous breakdown from her.

Someone (hell a lot) from the first post stated that she would try and manipulate me like that and believe me I was taking those words to heart when I thought she was having crocodile tears. But it soon became apparent to me that she wasn't acting or faking, she was having a legitimate panic attack. This led to an E.R. visit and that led to an overnight stay in the Hospital and then to new medications and a scheduled follow up with her Doctor for later next week.

This brought her family into it and that in turn led to long conversations all the way around.

When we got home (with her family in tow) I asked what she wanted to do since there was a house full of people and she said she wanted to be with her Mom for awhile.

That was fine with me as I had no desire to hang around all day with her Dad or Sister so I said I was going to go finish up something at work and would be home later.

Two hours after I get there I get a text from her begging me to please come home and that she really needs me to talk with her.

So I finish up what I was doing and head home. I am greeted on my own front porch by her Dad who asks if he can talk to me for a minute. My anger level was already somewhat high but I was ready to go to war if she had dumped a poo poo sack of lies on me with her Dad. I mean its not like he and I are best friends and poo poo but I've never had a bad moment with him so I really wasn't going to be happy about being the bastard who broke his baby's heart.

We set on our deck chairs and he loving floored me with his opening salvo. I was expecting to hear anything but what he said.

He said that she told them what had happened and that he wanted to apologize to me because he said that he felt like he did a really lovely job as a parent and that this mindset that she had was really a creation of her mothers and that while he loved both of them he said they were wrong and he had told his wife years ago that telling the girls that whatever happens before marriage doesn't count was a horrible idea and value system to install in them.

He then said that he wasn't there to stand up for what his daughter did but he just wanted me to be aware that what she was saying and how she was acting was simply because she honestly believed that being married was an entirely different life and that they (Mom & Dad) had romanticized marriage to the point that she wasn't understanding real life.

Basically he was kind of throwing his wife under the bus but again this is not what I was expecting at all.

We shook hands and he said that no matter what I decided he still thought very highly of me, which honestly made me feel really good for that moment.

I then went inside and my wife is curled up in a ball on her Mom's lap and you can tell she has been crying the entire time I've been gone. Mom gets up and comes and hugs me and tells me she is sorry and that she loves me and she is praying that we can work this out.

My wife is laid out on the couch at this point. Her Mom and Dad leave and she sits there looking at me and crying.

Ok, this is where I'm going to piss off everybody and just tell you that I couldn't take it. I went to her and we hugged for a long time with her telling me over and over how sorry she was.

Hey I know it was the weak thing to do but again I have to say in my defense that just before this incident occurred I loved her with all of my heart and would have done anything to not see her in pain, whatever she had done I still didn't want to see her like that.

Look it's very possible that she was putting on an Oscar worthy acting job, but I don't honestly think so. She really seemed broken at that point in time.

After awhile when she calmed down I asked her what she wanted me to come home and talk about and she said she wanted to get everything out in the open so I didn't feel like I was being lied to or manipulated.

So she wanted me to ask her questions and I wish I had written down a list but I came up with a few off the top of my head.

She was brutally honest with me and some of the questions I asked I probably shouldn't have because now the mental image is stuck in there but honestly it was there anyway I just now have confirmation.

First I asked for dates or at the very least approximate dates (I didn't tell her about the engagement concern I had because I didn't want her to change story's) and she remembered exactly when they occurred. Fortunately this happened a little earlier in our relationship than she told me initially and so we were not engaged when this happened. I can't tell you what a relief that was because I became physically ill when I thought about that when someone said it in my last post.

Second I asked how many times. She went over board with this because instead of just telling me how many different dates she decided to tell me how many times there was penetration (she wasn't doing it to be mean she honestly thought that is what I wanted to know). This part of the conversation did not help me any at all and in fact almost broke me down. In truth it wasn't that often and in fact there were really only 3 different days it happened on but there were several times during those three days.

Then came the hard part. Why did she do it? Okay again I'm not the most manly of men and I am ashamed to admit this but I couldn't get this out without starting to cry. I asked why wasn't I good enough, why him, why did she not just leave me. It was her turn to hold me because at this point everything came rushing at me. Her telling me, me having to watch them laugh with each other, her now telling me how many times they did it and where they did it.

She talked during this but to this moment I have no idea what she said. I was to upset and honestly nothing she was going to say was going to make a bit of difference anyway.

But after I composed myself I simply told her that the betrayal was horrible but honestly her response to me when I found out was just as bad if not worse.

She agreed with me and she apologized for calling me immature. She said that she honestly believed that it wouldn't matter to me now because we were married (when she said this my blood started to boil again). I started to say something about it but she jumped in and said that after talking with her parents she now sees that this was very wrong of her and that cheating is cheating but she still feels like that our happiness that we have shared since being married should count for something. I then replied that I kind of felt like that happiness was built on a lie.

This led to another break down on her part and almost another E.R. visit. But between Ativan and having her breath into a paper sack we got her calmed down.

I let her sleep the rest of the night feeling like emotionally we were both tired but come Sunday we were talking again.

By this time I wasn't as sympathetic as I had been when we got home from the E.R. I told her that I thought her introducing him to me was lovely, me having to watch her dance with him was extra lovely and the fact that she only told me because she was going to get caught was an elite level of lovely.

Which then I demanded to know why did she think I would find out and how many of the loving people at the wedding knew besides me. Well obviously the guy knew, but then his best friend in the world also knew (did I mention that fucker is now my brother in law) which then led to her sister finding out and she was afraid her sister was going to be the one to tell me.

I asked how often she see's this guy and she said that the wedding is the first time she has seen him in 3 years.

Then I lost my poo poo and asked her if she hosed him during any of the lead up to the wedding. She got all pissy about it acting like she wouldn't gently caress anyone because she was married and I just lost my poo poo and had to leave for awhile because once again I felt like she was living on "Married Planet" or some such poo poo and the world there is a different place than for the rest of us.

I finally got cooled off enough to come home and try and be civil about things.

She finally asked me what she could do to help me get past all of this, which may not sound like much but it was the first time she offered to help me really so it was at least a nice gesture.

I told her I wasn't sure what she could do or if there was anything either of us could do and that I may never get over this.

She said that she wanted to help because she didn't want to see me in pain and that over the years she hopes I'll be able to judge her based on who she is now. She would do anything I wanted to work this out. She also wanted to be sure that I knew that she has been 100% faithful since we've been married and would never cheat on her vows. I sarcastically thanked her (which I admit wasn't the most mature thing to do).

I then asked for a moratorium from further talks till at least Wednesday. I have two projects I have to get done and honestly I'm just exhausted and no I have no loving clue what I want to do. I shift between periods of red hot anger where I want to kick her out and then periods of deep emotional turmoil where I want to just forget this and move forward with her.

Yes I know this is not what anyone wanted to hear and no I'm not proud to type it but it is what it is at the moment.

tl;dr: Wife finally realized this was serious and then had near nervous breakdown resulting in hospitalization. Long talks ensued.

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse

Smirking_Serpent posted:

AITA for walking out of an intervention my family surprised me with?

Basically, I think everyone’s overreacting.

I’m 23 and I got incredibly drunk at a party two weekends ago and ended up with alcohol poisoning. I do relatively drink a lot, but only in social settings.

I spent the rest of weekend in the hospital recovering. It was a one time stupid mistake.

Yesterday, I went over to my parent’s house for dinner.

When I walked in, they were all sitting in the living room with somebody I’d never seen before.

I asked what was going on and my brother told me to sit down. I did and the man I didn’t know started talking.

To summarize, he said that my family was worried for me and wanted me to go to treatment.

I got upset and said that everyone was being over dramatic and that this was ridiculous. I said that I realized that I had made a mistake drinking that much but this was overkill. I stood up and walked out at that point.

My mom ran out after me with the interventionist and said that they only did this because they loved me.

I said that everyone was acting crazy and I hopped in my car and went home.

My brother has been texting me begging me to reconsider but I haven’t answered.

Everyone is crazy overreacting. Getting that drunk is not a normal thing for me. It just happened once and I regret it. I have a good job and I look after myself. I don’t think I need rehab or that intervention.

That said, maybe I did handle the intervention the wrong way. I maybe could’ve responded in a way that made them feel better instead of blowing up.

AITA for walking out?

In my mind, this plays out like he's leaving in a huff, but is so drunk that he mistakes the door with the walk-in closet. After he realizes where he is, he stays in there and acts like he's searching for something, getting tangled in christmas decoration that's stored there. Stumbling out, he holds up one of these wooden norwegian christmas cones, yelling "YOU PEOPLE DISGUST ME, WHY ARE YOU STORING YOUR WEIRD SEXTOYS THERE!" Jabbing it at his dad and uncle that try to subdue him.

Incoherence
May 22, 2004

POYO AND TEAR
My boyfriend [35/M] unknowingly ate some of my sister-in-law's placenta

quote:

My brother and his fiance just gave birth to a beautiful set of twins boys. We're all excited as a family to welcome these children into the world, but we've been collectively holding our tongues over my soon-to-be sister-in-law's eccentricities.

I won't go into other things she's done, but I will start with the issue at hand: after sending out some wedding invites, guests were also sent mysterious bottles containing two red pills, along with a note containing a somewhat senseless poem.

My boyfriend and I joked about these being drugs. Maybe she wanted us to all get high at her wedding? Since he can't make it to the wedding he reasoned he might as well take his now and swallowed it. I was somewhat surprised but, hey, we had nothing planned for the weekend so if it did turn out to be drugs, at least I knew ahead of time and can warn the family.

Well, just today she posted on social media that she has had her placenta encapsulated and has sent some of the pills to her wedding guests and family.

I haven't told my boyfriend yet that that is what was inside of the pills. I mean, should I? He's pretty chill but, to be honest, I can't even really see him in the same light now that I know what he swallowed. I'm really disturbed by all this. God only knows how he will react.

What's worse is after he swallowed the pill, it made him burp a ton, and he made me sniff his burps. We were laughing at the time but now the thought of this make me want to vomit. What do I do?

quote:

UPDATE: I told him what was in the pill. At first, he reacted light-heartedly and seemed to care more about where we should go for dinner. It seemed he didn't understand I was upset with him for just randomly popping a pill, and how gross I find this whole thing. He pointed out that I didn't stop him, but I also didn't ask him to either.

Over dinner, he confessed he actually didn't know what placenta was, so we googled it and even found the company my SIL used: http://mommymadeencapsulation.com/

As dinner progressed, we talked about some of the other strange things my SIL has done. After this, he confessed that he's now a little upset with me for not warning him about just how crazy this woman is. This caught me off guard as she's just not someone I interact with and never had a reason to mention her around him. Also, when I opened her package the first thing I said was "look what this crazy bitch just sent me."

On the way back from dinner I mentioned again that him popping the pill surprised me, as I know we were having a good time, but that kinda went over the edge for me, into the territory of carelessness.

This upset him. "How should I act around you? You put me on eggshells." And then he told me he'd like it if we slept at our own places tonight (I normally stay with him).

So now, I guess we're fighting. Which, I guess is fair. Knowing this kinda threw me into a panic, and I have a sense it did that for him as well, it just didn't set in until dinner.
I'm not sure which one's weirder: mailing your placenta pills to friends and family, mailing them to friends and family without being clear about what they were and why you were sending them, or just randomly eating mysterious pills that someone mailed you.

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

Incoherence posted:

My boyfriend [35/M] unknowingly ate some of my sister-in-law's placenta


I'm not sure which one's weirder: mailing your placenta pills to friends and family, mailing them to friends and family without being clear about what they were and why you were sending them, or just randomly eating mysterious pills that someone mailed you.

It’s eating random mystery pills and there is no contest there.

DeadMansSuspenders
Jan 10, 2012

I wanna be your left hand man

Beachcomber posted:

Hopefully I'm not stepping on DeadMansSuspenders suspenders, but I found an Update. This one is actually Long.

(update)Me [25 M] with my wife [23F], she informs me at sisters wedding she had slept with best man (long)

My suspenders are unsullied, I appreciate the find! Even if it's not as enticing as I'd hoped. Holy crap though, Pirate Radar was right!

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Incoherence posted:

My boyfriend [35/M] unknowingly ate some of my sister-in-law's placenta


I'm not sure which one's weirder: mailing your placenta pills to friends and family, mailing them to friends and family without being clear about what they were and why you were sending them, or just randomly eating mysterious pills that someone mailed you.

Well, the latter is definitely a TCC thing.

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde
I can't recover the 2nd update to the cheating Wife, but he has a comment that says more about her headspace, and it's a trip.

(2nd update)Me [25 M] with my wife [23F], she informs me at sisters wedding she had slept with best man

quote:

Sorry I guess I kind of forgot to address this.

It's not going to make anyone happy but here goes. The truth is she knew perfectly well that what she did was cheating, she has never denied that. However what she did do was think that being married was like crossing the finishing line and that basically she got by with it.

She hid it because she knew if I knew it would be over, however where her shock was that if I knew it after being Married that I would still think of it as a big deal and ultimately could end the marriage.

I'm not sure if I was plain enough so let me rephrase.

She drat well knew it was wrong and that it would have ended us if I ever found out about it. However she thought that repercussion ended when we got Married, she genuinely was shocked that I still was counting it as cheating because it did not happen in the confines of holy matrimony. Yes believe it or not, even though she did this and has some other issues that would make you scratch your head she is devoutly Christian, as you can tell I am not. So while I think it's a crock of poo poo there is a very certain religious aspect into what she see's as marriage.

Beachcomber fucked around with this message at 12:19 on Nov 20, 2019

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Smirking_Serpent posted:

We got in a somewhat heated debate where he basically said “Movie violence is fake but movie sex is still sex.”
Getting to the bottom of this statement seems entirely like a debate you would expect to have at a club of film buffs where Pasolini isn't anything particularly out of the ordinary.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

gotta get to Media Studies 101 and hit the Pasolini

Pinecone Sample
Oct 12, 2010

THIS ACCOUNT HAS BEEN SEIZED
by the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation in accordance with a seizure warrant issued pursuant to 69 U.S.C Sec. 420
/r/relationships: Over dinner, he confessed he actually didn't know what placenta was

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Also lol that's the dad's basically all 'We taught her wrong, on purpose, as a joke'

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