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Sirotan posted:Someone has already commented on birds, but guinea pigs are also in no way a cheap or easy pet to keep either. I have spent close to $1k for a single instance of guinea pig surgery and emergency care. You also need to keep multiples of them as they are herd animals and you're a dick if you keep one all alone. They need a large cage, larger than what crappy pet stores want to sell you, so you'll likely be building something from scratch. There also aren't very many pig-savvy vets out there so if you don't have decades of guinea pig husbandry experience like I do, you're gonna end up spending even more on vet visits. That's fair. I'm not saying they are cheap but compared to a dog they seem cheaper. I had a guinea pig and she was a lot of fun and a lot more easier to manage than the family dog.
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Foma posted:https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28078881/how-nba-executive-jeff-david-stole-13-million-sacramento-kings When mid 6 figures ain't enough This is A+ stuff.
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Foma posted:https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28078881/how-nba-executive-jeff-david-stole-13-million-sacramento-kings When mid 6 figures ain't enough That has got to be the first time an HR beancounter has been the hero of an ESPN story
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Foma posted:https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28078881/how-nba-executive-jeff-david-stole-13-million-sacramento-kings When mid 6 figures ain't enough  at how everyone bends over backward to not make things too hard on the guy who stole $13M.
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Oh! Speaking of BWM and dog breeding, I got the following e-mail from a rich weirdo optometrist friend of my family:quote:I have commissioned an artist for the creation of a metal sculpture honouring the achievement of my brother and sister-in-law’s career in nurturing a breeding lineage and conformation performance record of champion Kerry Blue Terrier’s. The first component of the sculpture, a ten foot diameter semi-circular plate, has been completed. As the work progresses, I will keep you updated. There will be an unveiling of the completed work before shipping the piece to Otley, Iowa.   A 10 foot metal sculpture to dog eugenics.
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zelah posted:Please make that the thread title
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"Everyone" being his family and friends, with "everyone else" being The Law and the people he stole from, who basically repossess everything her owns and slams him in jail for seven years.
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canyoneer posted:it wasn't sex work, it was more sex as a self-funding hobby! it wasn’t sex work, it was a side-piece gig
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Residency Evil posted:haha holy poo poo My mom bought a pure bred Sheltie that she saw online from a puppy mill in Texas. She lives in Florida. $2500 plus shipping to have the dog flown in to Gainesville. Now the dog spends a bunch of time in his crate because he’s too much of a handful for her. I don’t think I’ve seen a dumber loving purchase for myself than that one.
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My cousin drove from Ohio to Mississippi (a bad idea for any reason) to get a blue Great Dane. The dog was over $2k, and the life expectancy is like 5-6 years.
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Pet insurance isn't worth it until it is. My dog got attacked by a loose dog while we were out walking a month or so back and while luckily the damage wasn't too bad, it could have easily ended up being a very expensive bill. Same with if she finds something bad outside and eats it, or contracts some weird dog disease. I mean sure dogs are cheap and easy to replace but I also love this one so $25 a month to make the choice easy to save her if it comes to it is peace of mind and imo gwl. Also apparently I get some discounts with it so I should probably use those to be better with money. E: also I adopted an older dog who is afaik healthy, but has some "battle damage" from her past. SpartanIvy fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Nov 20, 2019 |
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PurpleXVI posted:"Everyone" being his family and friends, with "everyone else" being The Law and the people he stole from, who basically repossess everything her owns and slams him in jail for seven years. Rob a convenience store of fifty dollars and see if you get to spend six months at home waiting for sentencing.
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SpartanIvy posted:I mean sure dogs are cheap and easy to replace but I also love this one so $25 a month to make the choice easy to save her if it comes to it is peace of mind and imo gwl. We (veterinarians) classify clients by how they would answer the question "do you want a dog or do you want this dog?" If you are a "this dog" person, whether or not pet insurance is worth it, and how much you'll spend on the dog, is understandably different than if you are not. I don't judge people for being one way or the other. Sometimes it's different even with the same person and different pets throughout their life.
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Ulf posted:it wasn’t sex work, it was a side-piece gig 
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Foma posted:https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28078881/how-nba-executive-jeff-david-stole-13-million-sacramento-kings When mid 6 figures ain't enough The thing that gets me the most about this is how simple it was for him to steal the money. He's not rerouting cash through some Cayman bank account or anything complicated to obfuscate the fraud , all he did was grab an invoice template and change the account name and number. How he could possibly believe he wouldn't eventually get caught is beyond me. I shouldn't be that surprised though, some people are just completely clueless when it comes to cyber security. A few months ago I called a developer to confirm instructions for a wire in the millions of dollars and he copped a lovely tone with me because he had "already emailed the account numbers, why are you calling me?" Like, do you not realize how easy it is for a worm to edit your unsecure email and have me sending your millions to some bank in Hong Kong?
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untzthatshit posted:The thing that gets me the most about this is how simple it was for him to steal the money. He's not rerouting cash through some Cayman bank account or anything complicated to obfuscate the fraud , all he did was grab an invoice template and change the account name and number. How he could possibly believe he wouldn't eventually get caught is beyond me. I'm not surprised to be honest, just sending invoices to large companies in the hope that they blindly pay is surprisingly lucrative. A few companies ago I worked for a place with about 100 people, and we would frequently get all company emails asking for someone to let the accounting department know why we just got a check for $50k from some company. Not a bill, a check. In retrospect I'm amazed that they did as well as they did, their fail son did everything he could to run it in to the ground. Even demanding that he get to still run the company as a condition of their company getting bought out (unsurprisingly that deal fell through!) Volmarias fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Nov 20, 2019 |
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Nocheez posted:My cousin drove from Ohio to Mississippi (a bad idea for any reason) to get a blue Great Dane. The dog was over $2k, and the life expectancy is like 5-6 years. I flew to Mississippi, picked up a Great Dane, then rented a car and drove her back to Los Angeles because the breeder didn't like to ship the dogs on planes in the heat. (the dog was a wedding present, we get rescue dogs now) ((she lived to be 10, and her only substantial vet bills were when our other rescue Dane attacked her twice over toys))
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Working for any family owned business that’s in the hands of second generation owners is almost always BWL.
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Eric the Mauve posted:Working for any family owned business that’s in the hands of second generation owners is almost always BWL. This is so true. I've seen exactly one company that seems to be doing the right thing by educating and making their children do hard work alongside the people they're going to manage in the future. I'd buy stock if they were a public company.
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MomJeans420 posted:I flew to Mississippi, picked up a Great Dane, then rented a car and drove her back to Los Angeles because the breeder didn't like to ship the dogs on planes in the heat. Did you register for a dog? Pets are a poo poo gift! Great danes are the best though. Unless you try to keep two females in the same house
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Eric the Mauve posted:Working for any family owned business that’s in the hands of second generation owners is almost always BWL. it sometimes works if theyre totally uninvolved in the day to day but yeah its usually bad
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:it sometimes works if theyre totally uninvolved in the day to day but yeah its usually bad That's the catch though, that almost never happens because most second generation owners are the epitome of "born on third base, thinks they hit a triple". Once you get to the third or subsequent generations (if the business survives that long) it gets more likely the owners aren't involved in the day to day in my experience.
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Did you register for a dog? Pets are a poo poo gift! That doesn't sound so great
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BonerGhost posted:Rats for instance are just as if not smarter than dogs 
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They are though. They're tumor-ridden cancer factories and pee on everything but they're very smart. Dogs are usually more biddable and inclined to obey commands, but we've literally bred them to do that. Rats are models for intelligence for a reason
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Eric the Mauve posted:That's the catch though, that almost never happens because most second generation owners are the epitome of "born on third base, thinks they hit a triple". I used to work in a machine shop where the owner was the boss and his son was in deburr. He was every bit the entitled loving idiot you would expect. He'd introduce himself as the boss's son. He'd poo poo on the foreman and say I'll go to the real boss. We would complain to the owner and he would just respond 'blood is thicker than water'. Alright motherfucker then run this poo poo with your moron son and I'll check parts somewhere else since he's too stupid to do it. He'd try to get us in trouble and fired. One dude from New York (we're in TX) tore him a new rear end in a top hat because he had a family to support and all daddy's boy had to do was pay for his car. Fucker almost broke down crying. Of course he tattled about that. It was great when we'd all bitch enough that he'd get admonished by Daddy over dinner and he'd come in all salty (because he lived at home too). Goddamn those were fun days Anyways that's my story thanks for listening. He was doing a great job running that place into the ground and micromanaging the hell out of it. E: his biggest accomplishment in life was being personal friends with JJ Watt, since they were school friends. He even embarrassed the hell out of JJ at a club once and got escorted out. "I'm gonna go hang out with JJ". What a tool, JJ is a nice guy tho, or so I hear. BloodBag fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Nov 20, 2019 |
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Nocheez posted:My cousin drove from Ohio to Mississippi (a bad idea for any reason) to get a blue Great Dane. The dog was over $2k, and the life expectancy is like 5-6 years. That is shorter than the life expectancy of a guinea pig btw
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Did you register for a dog? Pets are a poo poo gift! Nah my in-laws knew we wanted one and bought it for us. Funnily enough, we had a male GSD and the female Dane we drove back from Mississippi, they got along great but the GSD was getting older. Got a deaf female rescue Dane so the other Dane would have someone to play with, turned out the new rescue female was super alpha. They tolerated each other for the most part for 8 or 9 years, but twice the non-rescue one bared her teeth at the rescue when the rescue wanted a toy, and instant carnage resulted. Now we have a male Dane and female pit/lab mix and they get along amazingly well. Despite her super alphaness towards other dogs, our rescue ended up being all my friends favorite dog as she loved every human and was super goofy. Here she is getting stuck under the strut bar of my 350Z, which by the way is welded to the body of the car so you can't just unbolt it to get her out. Getting her out was a process 
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Nocheez posted:My cousin drove from Ohio to Mississippi (a bad idea for any reason) to get a blue Great Dane. The dog was over $2k, and the life expectancy is like 5-6 years. Do they not make Great Danes in Ohio or something or was it because the dog was blue? It's always weird to hear stories of people traveling great distances just to get something they could find 100 of within a couple cities.
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cage-free egghead posted:Do they not make Great Danes in Ohio or something or was it because the dog was blue? It's always weird to hear stories of people traveling great distances just to get something they could find 100 of within a couple cities. I don't know why, but there's a huge push for Mexican dogs in Edmonton, Alberta. When I was looking for a dog a couple years ago half the ads I came across were for dogs that were in some stage of being brought to Canada from Mexico. They were all mutts, and the "rescuers" were charging a lot to cover transferring the dogs thousands and thousands of miles. I guess if it ain't doggy eugenics it's doggy colonialism.
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Square Peg posted:if it ain't doggy eugenics it's doggy colonialism. Does Pet Island have a politics thread? If not, I think we've got a title
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My aunt, who is 65 and has no retirement savings despite making six figures for the last 20 years, bought a puppymill dog years ago for $3500. He was supposed to be a teacup varietal, surprise surprise was not, and was severely inbred. The dog had a short life for its expected lifespan (8 years vs expected 14) and was sick the entire time. She spent around $40k propping it up. She also has a significant amount of credit card debt. My aunt is very BWM.
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untzthatshit posted:Like, do you not realize how easy it is for a worm to edit your unsecure email and have me sending your millions to some bank in Hong Kong?
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Ralith posted:Has that ever actually happened? Fake invoices, sure, but intercepting and editing a real one in-flight is some real high-touch targeted attack level poo poo, and if you're that good there are easier ways to get rich. I mean an infinite number of monkeys... But yea, just spam out 1000 invoices and see if anyone pays, its way easier.
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Ralith posted:Has that ever actually happened? Fake invoices, sure, but intercepting and editing a real one in-flight is some real high-touch targeted attack level poo poo, and if you're that good there are easier ways to get rich. Some widely deployed types of malware rewrite your online banking while you're using it and siphon off money, hiding the changed balances. It's been more common than you might think.
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Ralith posted:Has that ever actually happened? Fake invoices, sure, but intercepting and editing a real one in-flight is some real high-touch targeted attack level poo poo, and if you're that good there are easier ways to get rich. Like GTO said, yea, basically some sort of worm/malware gets downloaded to your computer and then scans your outgoing emails for anything that looks like account numbers and edits them. That's my layman understanding of it anyways. I work in real estate development and another developer in town had this exact thing happen to him. He was closing on a purchase and the wire was diverted - wound up losing $300,000.
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Ralith posted:Has that ever actually happened? Fake invoices, sure, but intercepting and editing a real one in-flight is some real high-touch targeted attack level poo poo, and if you're that good there are easier ways to get rich. Yes, it's not uncommon. Someone gets spear phished, the thief reads the messages in the email account and learns about current projects and how invoices are formatted, and then when the time is right, sends an invoice with altered account details. For things like building construction, this is easily a multimillion dollar heist for a month or two of learning the business. Many businesses are doing further verification checks now, but it still occurs somewhat frequently.
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Inept posted:Yes, it's not uncommon. Someone gets spear phished, the thief reads the messages in the email account and learns about current projects and how invoices are formatted, and then when the time is right, sends an invoice with altered account details. For things like building construction, this is easily a multimillion dollar heist for a month or two of learning the business. Many businesses are doing further verification checks now, but it still occurs somewhat frequently. Someone in my office was the target of an attack like this. The attacker did enough recon on our company to send an email to an HR person asking how they would go about changing their address information. HR sent back a response with the instructions for using our HR portal. At this point the attacker knows they've got HR on the hook so they switched topics to changing their direct deposit info as well. It was caught when the employee didn't get their next check direct deposited.
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