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KillHour posted:I'm sure this was posted already but lol Like he's ever used a wrench before.
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Would it seriously be better at this point for Sondland to just tap out and admit he was in over his head, has no idea how any of this poo poo works, and just wants to go home?
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Wylie posted:Hey, EW, a lawyer question: How much does it hurt Castor as a cross-examiner that he has to fill out 45 minutes of time? What's stopping him from just, you know, not running out the clock and saying "I'm done here, I yield back"? He's charging by the minute.
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1glitch0 posted:Would it seriously be better at this point for Sondland to just tap out and admit he was in over his head, has no idea how any of this poo poo works, and just wants to go home? He's done. He can't be effective at his job after today.
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Yes yes.. good. Run like the rats you are.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Group panic session? when/if the republicans knife trump in the back, it'll happen faster than you think possible
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Passing around cyanide pills in the chamber like it’s April 1945.
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Wylie posted:Hey, EW, a lawyer question: How much does it hurt Castor as a cross-examiner that he has to fill out 45 minutes of time? What's stopping him from just, you know, not running out the clock and saying "I'm done here, I yield back"? he doesn't need to use all 45 minutes but it would be embarrassing not to. that said, a good cross-examination is a lawyer basically giving a speech punctuated by an occasional "yes" from the witness. and here, there's no judge to whack you on the knuckles when you flagrantly violate the rules and actually don't even bother to involve the witness. but sondland is so damaging and willing to throw everyone under the bus i'd have struggled to fill 45 minutes, but i would have had an outline prepared for this eventuality that was basically attacking his credibility for changing his testimony and the like and just making him answer yes or no questions about lack of specific pieces of evidence where he is given no chance to explain
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Wylie posted:Hey, EW, a lawyer question: How much does it hurt Castor as a cross-examiner that he has to fill out 45 minutes of time? What's stopping him from just, you know, not running out the clock and saying "I'm done here, I yield back"? I'm not a lawyer, but yesterday Nunez and Castor couldn't/wouldn't fill up all their time for the second round of time that Schiff requested, so Nunez yielded back ~15 minutes of unused time and they went straight to the member questions.
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oxsnard posted:when/if the republicans knife trump in the back, it'll happen faster than you think possible It will never happen. Their base loves Trump WAYYYY more than them.
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Nov 20, 2019 18:24
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republicans have to now be considering that booting trump will stall investigations that implicate more republicans
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oxsnard posted:when/if the republicans knife trump in the back, it'll happen faster than you think possible I bet there will be a few calls tonight between the GOP key players asking “so uh... should we do it?” and a lot of “you first” replies.
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mcmagic posted:I think it would be brought up if one of the right members was on this committee but they arent. nobody cares. ambassadorships are a vestigial position that sounds important but isn't.
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HONG KONG SLUMLORD posted:I bet there will be a few calls tonight between the GOP key players asking “so uh... should we do it?” and a lot of “you first” replies. Is this about the cyanide pills or knifing trump?
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mcmagic posted:He's done. He can't be effective at his job after today. Oh yeah, he's done. I think he just wants to not go to jail at this point. And rumors of Pompeo resigning during the hearings isn't... great.
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OAquinas posted:Is this about the cyanide pills or knifing trump? No one is brave enough to ask but they're down for both as long as someone else goes first
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OAquinas posted:Is this about the cyanide pills or knifing trump? I’m good with either, my friend. 
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oxsnard posted:republicans have to now be considering that booting trump will stall investigations that implicate more republicans Yeah I'm kind of curious about this as a tipping point. The Trump administration is so inept that they're likely to implicate GOP MOC's at some point, who are absolutely on the take from Russia (by way of the NRA and others) that this would be an existential threat that they need to have him removed.
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evilweasel posted:nobody cares. ambassadorships are a vestigial position that sounds important but isn't. I think people do care. Selling off jobs to rich assholes is pretty good for a culture of corruption narrative.
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Strange Poon posted:is them leaving the room genuine panic or are they trying to play up that they think this is a sham Yes.
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1glitch0 posted:Oh yeah, he's done. I think he just wants to not go to jail at this point. That tweet was from Seth abramson who I understand is not a reliable journalist.
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Strange Poon posted:is them leaving the room genuine panic or are they trying to play up that they think this is a sham pompeo decided to resign in the middle of this glorious moment, so I presume the former
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evilweasel posted:he doesn't need to use all 45 minutes but it would be embarrassing not to. that said, a good cross-examination is a lawyer basically giving a speech punctuated by an occasional "yes" from the witness. and here, there's no judge to whack you on the knuckles when you flagrantly violate the rules and actually don't even bother to involve the witness. hell yes, I'm glad you are doing this! It's a great way to understand the nuanced layers of hosed they all must feel right now
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Strange Poon posted:is them leaving the room genuine panic or are they trying to play up that they think this is a sham If they didn't want to participate, they'd not show up for the beginning so there wouldn't be a quorum. They're just leaving to have a private strategy session.
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mcmagic posted:I think people do care. Selling off jobs to rich assholes is pretty good for a culture of corruption narrative. the reality is that our current campaign financing structure creates much, much worse corruption. giving a pointless vestigial job with no policy-making ability that sounds important is among the most innocent things you can give to a large donor. there's better things to focus on about how our campaign financing structure creates corruption, especially things that are specific to the corrupt people
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oxsnard posted:pompeo decided to resign in the middle of this glorious moment, so I presume the former It's being reported that his resignation has been in the works a while since he's going to run for KS senate. evilweasel posted:the reality is that our current campaign financing structure creates much, much worse corruption. giving a pointless vestigial job with no policy-making ability that sounds important is among the most innocent things you can give to a large donor. I'm not disagreeing with you but I think the Ambassadorship stuff is politically effective. It's such a simple connection between a donation and some rich rear end in a top hat who is clearly unqualified getting a job. mcmagic fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Nov 20, 2019 |
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Two things will need to happen for the MAGA-chuds to turn on Trump: 1: he get perma-banned from Twitter, making it more difficult for him to reach his base without any filters, and 2: FOX NEWS and the Murdoch apparatus actively start to work against him. It’s only when these things happen (lol) that the chuds will lose heart. They love Trump because they are repeatedly told to love him.
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Blurred posted:That tweet was from Seth abramson who I understand is not a reliable journalist. There were actual reports yesterday that he is planning to resign to run for Senate
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Blurred posted:That tweet was from Seth abramson who I understand is not a reliable journalist. Yeah, but the article is originally from the Independent. It's not necessarily the most reliable story in the world, but it's not Seth Abramson tin foil poo poo.
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mcmagic posted:It's being reported that his resignation has been in the works a while since he's going to run for KS senate. ah yeah i saw that, I'm dumb. Still think they're panicking
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mcmagic posted:It will never happen. Their base loves Trump WAYYYY more than them. Wasn't Nixon in a stronger position before it tipped over?
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BigglesSWE posted:Two things will need to happen for the MAGA-chuds to turn on Trump: We need him to remain on twitter after his ouster in order to completely fracture the GOP
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Comstar posted:Wasn't Nixon in a stronger position before it tipped over? That was an era of way more cross-party voting and far weaker party voter loyalty.
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oxsnard posted:We need him to remain on twitter after his ouster in order to completely fracture the GOP As a judge, I’d allow him to tweet from prison as long as his profile picture was the same as it is now except he is photoshopped as behind bars.
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