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Hmm, I'm about half-way through season 3 right now. I'm definitely racing through it! But I'm not sure I like the direction this is headed. I think the Vorlon-angel thing is pretty weak and looks goofy as hell. Marcus is an obnoxious Jedi (though at least they all call him out on that), and I'm just not into all the religious stuff .
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Did the books ever expand on how the Centauri tried to claim that Earth was just a long lost Centauri colony? Because we know the evolutionary history of humanity, and we are definitely descended from other Earth animals. Nobody could have believed the Centauri.
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Torrannor posted:Did the books ever expand on how the Centauri tried to claim that Earth was just a long lost Centauri colony? Because we know the evolutionary history of humanity, and we are definitely descended from other Earth animals. Nobody could have believed the Centauri. In B5 universe, the entire planet earth's education system has the religious wrong answer exemption so no one believes in evolution anymore.
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Delthalaz posted:Hmm, I'm about half-way through season 3 right now. I'm definitely racing through it! But I'm not sure I like the direction this is headed. I think the Vorlon-angel thing is pretty weak and looks goofy as hell. Marcus is an obnoxious Jedi (though at least they all call him out on that), and I'm just not into all the religious stuff .  Keep going.
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Delthalaz posted:Hmm, I'm about half-way through season 3 right now. I'm definitely racing through it! But I'm not sure I like the direction this is headed. I think the Vorlon-angel thing is pretty weak and looks goofy as hell. Marcus is an obnoxious Jedi (though at least they all call him out on that), and I'm just not into all the religious stuff . Your emotions and thoughts are currently right on track for maximum enjoyment of the series.
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Torrannor posted:Did the books ever expand on how the Centauri tried to claim that Earth was just a long lost Centauri colony? Because we know the evolutionary history of humanity, and we are definitely descended from other Earth animals. Nobody could have believed the Centauri. I mean...I imagine that most people didn't really believe it, but I can also imagine that a first contact situation where the aliens look outwardly EXACTLY like humans (at least with their clothes on...) would cause a lot of people to start questioning things. There are people NOW that still don't believe in evolution one iota, I imagine in 100-ish years there still will be those kinds of people.
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DrBouvenstein posted:I mean...I imagine that most people didn't really believe it, but I can also imagine that a first contact situation where the aliens look outwardly EXACTLY like humans (at least with their clothes on...) would cause a lot of people to start questioning things. It is amusing that the myth lasted long enough to perpetuate, but Earthgov still managed to get hold of Centauri DNA before they did an X-ray.
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Jedit posted:It is amusing that the myth lasted long enough to perpetuate, but Earthgov still managed to get hold of Centauri DNA before they did an X-ray. Their ambassadors just leave it lying around everywhere.
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Jedit posted:It is amusing that the myth lasted long enough to perpetuate, but Earthgov still managed to get hold of Centauri DNA before they did an X-ray. EarthGov Medical Rep: "We would love the chance to do a basic examination, to learn more about you and our shared heritage." Centauri Ambassador: "Hmmmmmno. No, I don't think so." EGMR, to diplomatic staff: "I don't know, just get a sample somehow. Give him a drink and preserve the glass? Hair samp—no, that's gotta be a wig, no way that's real hair ..."
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G’kar was always careless about leaving his DNA all around.
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Just started a rewatch and I forgot how they bring up Londo's death in the literal first episode. Also that they're (Sinclair) so aggressive towards the Narn and supportive of the Centauri. Doing s1e3 tonight. Probably won't do a post along tho.
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The show forgets about it later, but the Narn were in the middle of a really aggressive expansion period and were very literally antagonizing the Centauri. G'kar was a violent and cruel man. The Centauri Republic was in a frail, fading state, and could barely afford the upkeep for what they had left, to the point of endangering the rest of the galaxy with some of their cost-cutting. Right before Londo did the thing, the Narn had set up an aggressive posture on the border in direct contradiction to former treaties, and it's not very hard to imagine a war going the other way. They really should've brought back Londo's nephew at some point.
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SlothfulCobra posted:The show forgets about it later, but the Narn were in the middle of a really aggressive expansion period and were very literally antagonizing the Centauri. G'kar was a violent and cruel man. The Centauri Republic was in a frail, fading state, and could barely afford the upkeep for what they had left, to the point of endangering the rest of the galaxy with some of their cost-cutting. Right before Londo did the thing, the Narn had set up an aggressive posture on the border in direct contradiction to former treaties, and it's not very hard to imagine a war going the other way. The show definitely doesn't forget. Recall what the other Narn want from G'kar in the “What have I endured?” scene. Still plenty of aggressive Narn left, they just lack the capacity to act.
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So are we supposed to assume Franklin dumped his girlfriend as soon as he found out she was dying and just kept on with his narcissistic walkabout
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Delthalaz posted:So are we supposed to assume Franklin dumped his girlfriend as soon as he found out she was dying and just kept on with his narcissistic walkabout Yeah, he's a real rear end. One of my least favorite characters in B5. He rarely does big sweeping Bad poo poo on screen but he's just a steady, quiet drip feed of terrible, self-centered decisions. He's Londo without the redemption arc.
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Delthalaz posted:So are we supposed to assume Franklin dumped his girlfriend as soon as he found out she was dying and just kept on with his narcissistic walkabout She does die shortly afterward as Marcus finds Franklin’s autopsy notes when he’s searching for ways to save Ivanava. I’m half way through Season 5 and Garibaldi hasn’t mentioned or shown any indication that he’s still married to Lys
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TraderStav posted:She does die shortly afterward as Marcus finds Franklin’s autopsy notes when he’s searching for ways to save Ivanava. Re: Franklin in S3, that was post-walkabout Re: S5, She turns up
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Just started Day of the Dead, this is a very unsettling change of pace. Surprised at the writing given the guest writer... Hoping this improves
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TraderStav posted:Not sure what I just watched It’s a show called Babylon 5
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You might just egg me on to rewatch Season 5. I stopped my last rewatch at the end of 4.
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I really enjoy the idea that since popular comedy tends to be very of-the-moment, comedy from 250 years hence will be incomprehensible.
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Vavrek posted:I really enjoy the idea that since popular comedy tends to be very of-the-moment, comedy from 250 years hence will be incomprehensible. Do you think you could explain today's humor to someone from the '90s?
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Vavrek posted:Zoot zoot! Lol that's so good
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Do you think you could explain today's humor to someone from the '90s? Depending on which of the comedy podcasts I listen to we're talking about, maybe. (Podcasts are easy to explain.) Internet meme culture, though? I can't explain that to someone in 2019, much less 1998. sebmojo posted:Lol that's so good
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Vavrek posted:I really enjoy the idea that since popular comedy tends to be very of-the-moment, comedy from 250 years hence will be incomprehensible. Something I appreciated is that the show recognises that they're fundamentally performers doing a bit, and got to be pretty intelligent and sincere people when they were "off". Also that different races have their own senses of humour.
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I wonder how much that was part of the script before Penn & Teller were cast. JMS said the only real change was the addition of The Machine, so that Teller could stay mute, but "performers doing a bit who are intelligent and sincere when they're 'off'" sounds just like P&T. Or it could be that Gaiman's a really good character writer and understood how to make compelling and realistic characters, and came up with that dynamic independently.
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Zoot zoot is just future yeet
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Most of what I remember from that episode is that The West Wing basically had the exact same script when they had Pen and Teller on.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Do you think you could explain today's humor to someone from the '90s? It gets pretty dark, there's a lot of doom and gloom about the world right now that fosters a some real black comedy. A lot of current meme humor has developed beyond the simple into weird postmodern denunciations against the idea of having something worth saying, either on purpose or by accident through posting dumb stuff, which itself is kinda dark. We're still riding some of the overflow of irony back in the 2000s, so it's hard for anything to be earnest. Of course, there's also a budding rebellion against all that called Hopepunk, but I'm not sure how much of that counts as humor.
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This is the first I've heard of it, but the very concept of "hopepunk" is comedic in its own right.
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Son of Sam-I-Am posted:This is the first I've heard of it, but the very concept of "hopepunk" is comedic in its own right. “Positive punk” was a thing as far back as the 80s.
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Midjack posted:“Positive punk” was a thing as far back as the 80s. Old things are not funny, check.
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Can we please put slapping "punk" on the end of things to rest because it's loving hollow and pointless.
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I would like to formally request that Hollowpunk be a thing. However, as a concession to the legitimacy of The Unlife Aquatic's point, it shall be a punk subgenre focused on the aesthetics of Hollow Knight.
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I'm gonna invent punkpunk.
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The year, is 2019, the place, is Babylpunk 5.
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It's our last, best hope for punk (to die).
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