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Djeser
Mar 22, 2013


it's crow time again

Nope, that's definitely not Kunquat.

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sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
yea KF is good but that's not Kumquat

Ambious
Sep 29, 2016

Hail Hoots!
Am I having a stroke or does he even sound a bit like him?

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Ambious posted:

Am I having a stroke or does he even sound a bit like him?

you have goon vocal blindness, a common affliction to podcast listeners

Djeser
Mar 22, 2013


it's crow time again

His Alex Jones voice sounds sort of like Kumquat's YES HELLO voice, in that they're both yelling. I guess their regular voices have a similar range, but beyond that, it's all you.

That Old Tree
Jun 24, 2012

nah


I've been listening to a lot of KF lately and they're really distinct to me. :shrug:

a dozen swans
Aug 24, 2012

Ambious posted:

Am I having a stroke or does he even sound a bit like him?

Go outside more dude

Ambious
Sep 29, 2016

Hail Hoots!

a dozen swans posted:

Go outside more dude

Sure thing, buddy

Hiro Protagonist
Oct 25, 2010

Last of the freelance hackers and
Greatest swordfighter in the world
Despite my love of the F Plus, one thing I prefer about Extra Credits is that, as a more women-led podcast, they are much more willing to acknowledge that women can be just as crazy, weird, and fetishy as men. It isn't as big a problem now, but for years I would always get frustrated when the F Plus was reading something clearly written by a woman, but they always talked about how it was some crazy neck beard, only to be surprised when they came across confirmation that the person was, in fact, a woman.

a dozen swans
Aug 24, 2012

Hiro Protagonist posted:

Despite my love of the F Plus, one thing I prefer about Extra Credits is that, as a more women-led podcast, they are much more willing to acknowledge that women can be just as crazy, weird, and fetishy as men. It isn't as big a problem now, but for years I would always get frustrated when the F Plus was reading something clearly written by a woman, but they always talked about how it was some crazy neck beard, only to be surprised when they came across confirmation that the person was, in fact, a woman.

The number of times in the fanfic episodes that the Ridiculists assume someone who is CLEARLY a woman online is a weird guy used to blow my mind

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Hiro Protagonist posted:

Despite my love of the F Plus, one thing I prefer about Extra Credits is that, as a more women-led podcast, they are much more willing to acknowledge that women can be just as crazy, weird, and fetishy as men. It isn't as big a problem now, but for years I would always get frustrated when the F Plus was reading something clearly written by a woman, but they always talked about how it was some crazy neck beard, only to be surprised when they came across confirmation that the person was, in fact, a woman.

That’s pretty widespread all through the internet. The r/relationships thread (where like half the regulars are women) has tons of people assuming the writer of the post is a man, and those posts usually clearly identify everyone’s genders in the title. I think it’s an age thing, the older the crowd the more likely you are to think everyone on a message board is a man just because of how it was back in the day.

Djeser
Mar 22, 2013


it's crow time again

Yeah, in addition to the different gender radio, EC also skews younger than mainline F Plus. And while the riduculists are all Old Internet, they're much more forums nerds than Livejournal types.

Crocoswine
Aug 20, 2010

What about when a post is by a woman but they go "Haha, yeah right" because it's impossible for women to be weird sex freaks

Djeser
Mar 22, 2013


it's crow time again

Weird fetishists writing posts as if they're women is also absolutely a thing though. It's less that women can't be weird sex freaks and more that women tend to be weird sex freaks in slightly different ways.

Sitting Here
Dec 31, 2007
i just assume that behind every f plus-worthy post, there is a weird, gender-neutral boner from hell

Crocoswine
Aug 20, 2010

Djeser posted:

Weird fetishists writing posts as if they're women is also absolutely a thing though. It's less that women can't be weird sex freaks and more that women tend to be weird sex freaks in slightly different ways.

Sure, but they do it for like, fanfic poo poo too. :V

edit: wait no the last one that irritated me was them doing it for the lady in the heartbeat ep

Djeser
Mar 22, 2013


it's crow time again

Sitting Here posted:

i just assume that behind every f plus-worthy post, there is a weird, gender-neutral boner from hell

welcome to the f plus, penis not guaranteed

Hiro Protagonist
Oct 25, 2010

Last of the freelance hackers and
Greatest swordfighter in the world

Djeser posted:

Weird fetishists writing posts as if they're women is also absolutely a thing though. It's less that women can't be weird sex freaks and more that women tend to be weird sex freaks in slightly different ways.

That's definitely true, but I think it's WAAAAY over stated. One of the weird internet discoveries I had that really changed my perspective on internet fetishes was when I found out that the vore community, which I always found to be one of the most insane and disturbing, has like a 50/50~ gender divide. Even if there are some people deliberately misrepresenting themselves, turns out a lot of women find the idea of eating people whole hot.
Edit: the episodes that bugged me the most were the furry ones, because furcons have made the fact that a LOOOOT of women are furries plainly obviously, but there would be so many episodes where furries talked about using dildos and they always gawked and asked like "wait, are the using dildos anally?" I mean, there were some men maybe, but a gently caress ton were just women.

Hiro Protagonist fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Nov 20, 2019

Djeser
Mar 22, 2013


it's crow time again

I mean, everyone's got a butt to put a wyvern's dick in

ShellGame
Apr 10, 2016

stack 'em to the heavens
I'll be the first to admit we've done it too. Can't speak for anyone else but there's also been times where I've thought "you guys. This is definitely a lady." But i didn't say anything because i... didn't want to ruin the joke they were making? Like the e621/SoFurry doc I'm almost certain we mixed up at least two of them.

But yeah there've been plenty of times where I've thought "that's a woman" "that's a gay man" "that's a lesbian" etc. etc. I think there's definitely a certain EDGE to the dude creeps that tips one off, like how there's a distinct unfamiliarity with the female body that comes with the dudes pretending to be a horny lady, but for sure there's tons of lady creeps. We're actually gonna be recording a doc featuring a lot of them this week! :P (fwiw: the jury's still out for me on nonbinary creeps. They're out there! My exposure is just far too limited to get that feel, y'know?)

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

I don't remember if the "imagine your favorite characters in terrible fetish situations" episode had any gendering, but the content there was 100% lady (or lady-style) creeps.

Hiro Protagonist
Oct 25, 2010

Last of the freelance hackers and
Greatest swordfighter in the world
If I remember correct, it was always deliberately gender-neutral, which means it was probably mostly women or non-binary people, cause most creepy men don't seem to even consider that women would want to read their lovely fan porn.

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

I meant in the podcast, but yeah, the "scrupulously avoid any gendered body part references" thing was a huge tell that it was being written by people other than cis men.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

ShellGame posted:

I'll be the first to admit we've done it too. Can't speak for anyone else but there's also been times where I've thought "you guys. This is definitely a lady." But i didn't say anything because i... didn't want to ruin the joke they were making? Like the e621/SoFurry doc I'm almost certain we mixed up at least two of them.

But yeah there've been plenty of times where I've thought "that's a woman" "that's a gay man" "that's a lesbian" etc. etc. I think there's definitely a certain EDGE to the dude creeps that tips one off, like how there's a distinct unfamiliarity with the female body that comes with the dudes pretending to be a horny lady, but for sure there's tons of lady creeps. We're actually gonna be recording a doc featuring a lot of them this week! :P (fwiw: the jury's still out for me on nonbinary creeps. They're out there! My exposure is just far too limited to get that feel, y'know?)

I quite enjoy this aspect of the show. It almost feels like the podcasts are equal, one gayer, equally funny in differing ways, and more later 2000's internet rather than early 2000's internet. Even just looking at regdates for regulars, you registered in 2016 which is as different as SA was for me in 2010 (started reading 08) as it was from the pre-4chan days.

Fplus is internet gen X, extra credit is internet millennials?

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Djeser posted:

I mean, everyone's got a butt to put a wyvern's dick in

folks it's like I always say, we all gots holes

YeahTubaMike
Mar 24, 2005

*hic* Gotta finish thish . . .
Doctor Rope

Antivehicular posted:

I don't remember if the "imagine your favorite characters in terrible fetish situations" episode had any gendering, but the content there was 100% lady (or lady-style) creeps.

As a 32-year old woman who has been in and out of various fic scenes since the age of 16, I can tell you that there are plenty of girls & women who are into some incredibly freaky poo poo.

ShellGame
Apr 10, 2016

stack 'em to the heavens

T-man posted:

I quite enjoy this aspect of the show. It almost feels like the podcasts are equal, one gayer, equally funny in differing ways, and more later 2000's internet rather than early 2000's internet. Even just looking at regdates for regulars, you registered in 2016 which is as different as SA was for me in 2010 (started reading 08) as it was from the pre-4chan days.

Fplus is internet gen X, extra credit is internet millennials?

Well, I'm an older millennial. Most of those nerds are just regular Millennials, though so you're right. I'm actually not sure I even remember why I registered here tbh! I didn't register for ballp.it until 2017, which was mere months after i started listening to the f plus. I've been around, just mucking about different parts of the internet, low profile-like... didn't really start paying attention to online garbage until 2005 though so my window is a little more livejournal whereas the other readers were much more Tumblr.

I'm thinking about our regulars too... i think we have... one? cishet person? Very t/nb heavy too. We didn't really intend for that to happen tbh it just kinda did.

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

YeahTubaMike posted:

As a 32-year old woman who has been in and out of various fic scenes since the age of 16, I can tell you that there are plenty of girls & women who are into some incredibly freaky poo poo.

Yeah, I've been into fanfic atrocity tourism for nigh on 20 years. I'm considering making a doc about trashy anonymous fanfic smut spaces, if I can pick one that's sufficiently meaty and not just "I like (terrible sex concept!)" "Same!"

Tulalip Tulips
Sep 1, 2013

The best apologies are crafted with love.

Antivehicular posted:

Yeah, I've been into fanfic atrocity tourism for nigh on 20 years. I'm considering making a doc about trashy anonymous fanfic smut spaces, if I can pick one that's sufficiently meaty and not just "I like (terrible sex concept!)" "Same!"

Oh yeah, same in terms of weird fic. A huge part of my memory for bizarre internet drama is bizarree gross fandom sex poo poo driven by ladies. Or just bizarre fanfic things driven by ladies in general like the Haitain earthquake fic in SPN, which had no sex (I think - Supernatural was never my thing). The idea that women can't be in to weird gross things has always been foreign to me tbh.

The thread also introduced me to Extra Credit and I'm super glad for similar reasons mentioned above. I just finished the mpreg episode and like the Fplus one I got all nostalgic for my early internet days, when I could still be horrified by things like that. Actually the mpreg episodes are a great example of women being into weird gross sex things imo.

Tulalip Tulips fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Nov 21, 2019

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Tulalip Tulips posted:

. I just finished the mpreg episode and like the Fplus one I got all nostalgic for my early internet days, when I could still be horrified by things like that. Actually the mpreg episodes are a great example of women being into weird gross sex things imo.

I miss that too. The other day at work someone was talking about some weird internet poo poo they stumbled on (Sex dolls, I think) and that kind of thing doesn’t even make my gross poo poo meter twitch anymore. This dudes mind was completely blown, though. Reminded me of when I stumbled on the dollfucker thread when I started lurking here and how crazy that seemed at the time.

Yavuz
Oct 9, 2019

Ugly In The Morning posted:

I miss that too. The other day at work someone was talking about some weird internet poo poo they stumbled on (Sex dolls, I think) and that kind of thing doesn’t even make my gross poo poo meter twitch anymore. This dudes mind was completely blown, though. Reminded me of when I stumbled on the dollfucker thread when I started lurking here and how crazy that seemed at the time.

My first exposure to the F Plus was the Imagine Your Fave episode, and it nearly made me throw up in my spaghetti. I came back to it a couple years later and went "oh, this doesn't seem quite as shocking anymore".

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

goatse makes me feel nothing, such is the toil of being too online :I

Djeser
Mar 22, 2013


it's crow time again

T-man posted:

goatse makes me feel nothing

and it used to bring me such joy :sigh:

Hiro Protagonist
Oct 25, 2010

Last of the freelance hackers and
Greatest swordfighter in the world
I think, between this site and the F Plus, my resilience to being shocked by gross fetish poo poo is unhealthily strong. Also, I'm sure the age I started this poo poo didn't help, as I literally registered here soon after my eighteenth birthday, and probably regularly visited the site for like 4 years before that.

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

Yavuz posted:

My first exposure to the F Plus was the Imagine Your Fave episode, and it nearly made me throw up in my spaghetti.

Be honest: was this because you were taking the podcast's advice and imagining Mr. Creosote for every prompt?

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Hiro Protagonist posted:

I think, between this site and the F Plus, my resilience to being shocked by gross fetish poo poo is unhealthily strong. Also, I'm sure the age I started this poo poo didn't help, as I literally registered here soon after my eighteenth birthday, and probably regularly visited the site for like 4 years before that.

ahahahaha, yeah 18 sure is young to start reading SA.

(started reading SA at age 12! and my posting hasn't changed since)

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Djeser posted:

and it used to bring me such joy :sigh:

Somebody in the SA Sagas PYF thread got goatse’d a week or two ago and it was a delight. I never thought I would see that happen again.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

my mum says im cool

Toilet Rascal
Generally if it’s something super loving gross that’ll get a reaction from sheer concept rather than being strangely presented or vividly described, it won’t make the episode. It may feel like you’re immune to internet, but that’s because you haven’t been on clipsforsale’s Race Play tag, or read the WAM post about going in horse poo poo.

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

Wrestlepig posted:

the WAM post about going in horse poo poo.

oh good lord

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Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

my mum says im cool

Toilet Rascal

Antivehicular posted:

oh good lord

They were british.

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