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Zedsdeadbaby posted:Lower your expectations. Ludicrous optimism gives way to depression and despair. On the contrary, optimism is the thing that makes you not depressed and despairing for the duration of the time you're engaging in it.
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Orange Devil posted:Warren, for all her positive points, used to be a Republican back when she was teaching at Harvard and before that. People can change, but she was always a rather unlikely great progressive hope. I don't know if you follow the primaries/primary thread but she's shed all her positive points over the last month or so. It's come out she's taking billionaire money even though she said she wouldn't, and she's spiked her M4A plan in such a way that blatantly signals she means for it to get nowhere. Oh and last night she said that more American should be in the military lol. It looked like she could've gone either way but she's embraced Clintonism. It really is Bernie or Bust. Edit annnd this isn't UKPOL so I'll drop it
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Anyone going to their count for the first time should remember to wrap up warm (the heating won't be on) and bring a bag with some food & drinks for your comrades. Those Tunnocks Tea Cakes will look great at 5 a.m. when you are in the third recount.
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Maugrim posted:Yeah this was what I thought. I think she and some others are genuinely terrified, as impossible as that is for us to understand, and the Nazis didn't care if those they identified as Jews self-identified as such, so it's a reasonable defensive shift to find solidarity with others you think are going to be targets. Unfortunately like doomsday cults when the apocolypse doesn't happen at the chosen time the community often doubles down and isolates themselves to avoid addressing the failure of their prediction. The Twitter community will never die (unless Twitter does something) and if Riley and other big names don't snap out of it they'll get even worse as they'll stop going to/being invited to events and doing shows if they involve Labour Party members or some other red line the community invents. Its quite sad. Zedsdeadbaby posted:Lower your expectations. Ludicrous optimism gives way to depression and despair. You need optimism about the things you can affect (so be positive about the votes in a marginal you're going to canvass or help out in) but understand you're part of a system far bigger than yourself and so you cannot individualise any failures. namesake fucked around with this message at 11:00 on Nov 21, 2019 |
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It's actually very funny when middle class celebrities go insane at the prospect of having to pay taxes.
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OwlFancier posted:It's actually very funny when middle class celebrities go insane at the prospect of having to pay taxes. "Under a Labour Government I may have to put off buying a new place in the Seychelles for a month or two. Is that what you want Mister Corbyn??!? #NeverCorbyn #Antisemitism #RedTerror"
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Miftan posted:I never considered myself Jewish because I grew up secular in Israel where Jews are the majority and the oppressors. I didn't even when I first moved here, but I definitely do now because of these neonazi clowns running around. I'm not going to say that she isn't Jewish, but now that it's morphed into attacking the anti-apartheid movement and not the growing alt-right I am going to say there's something that feels off about the whole thing, like who was it that told her that Corbyn was the real reason she needs to feel worried, and now we're at the stage that whenever someone Jewish says something that counteracts that message, there's a bunch of crypto-fash trawling their twitter for bagels to discredit them. It's bizarre and worrying. Maugrim posted:Yeah this was what I thought. I think she and some others are genuinely terrified, as impossible as that is for us to understand, and the Nazis didn't care if those they identified as Jews self-identified as such, so it's a reasonable defensive shift to find solidarity with others you think are going to be targets. Zedsdeadbaby posted:Lower your expectations. Ludicrous optimism gives way to depression and despair.
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OwlFancier posted:On the contrary, optimism is the thing that makes you not depressed and despairing for the duration of the time you're engaging in it.  I'm full of hope and optimism and I'm loving it. The despair will come anyway if we lose, no point wallowing in it during the run up as well.OwlFancier posted:It's actually very funny when middle class celebrities go insane at the prospect of having to pay taxes.  e: urrrghhh that was way too big a scary racist bitchface, thumbnailed
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:Lower your expectations. Ludicrous optimism gives way to depression and despair. Nah, lowering expectations that you want to be high is just depressing yourself, emotional centrism. I felt gloomy yesterday, but that didn't make me feel better. We should be optimistic and passionate, it's contagious. And even if we win there's still a lot of work to do, almost as if we should keep up that momentum. 
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What is life if not ludicrous optimism about your own mortality.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:As long as he avoids the pressure to "balance the ticket" by putting some melt in as VP if he gets the nomination. If he does, and then wins the election, expect his health to have a sudden downturn. Every indication is Bernie's VP is going to be Nina Turner, a black woman leftist who liberals absolutely despise
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e: ^^ aren't all crimes by definition wrongs of the past?justcola posted:Nah, lowering expectations that you want to be high is just depressing yourself, emotional centrism. I felt gloomy yesterday, but that didn't make me feel better. I'm allowing myself to think "what if, this time next year, we've got Bernie in Washington DC and Corbyn nearly a year into his first term?" and it keeps me hopeful. Labour in government would do a lot for Bernie's cause. From a completely personal perspective (for I am aware that I have the means to absorb, to a degree, another 5 years of these cunts) my true despair will be if we somehow end up with a Tory majority. I think that's extremely unlikely to happen, if I were betting I'd be betting on a Labour minority with C+S from the SNP in return for indyref2 in 3 years or within 5, allowing Labour a chance to re-invest in Scotland (and lol the SNP couldn't stop them, imagine the optics on voting against investment in Scotland). Next likely is Tory minority with some more Labour gains which keeps us in the fight and tightens Johnson's leash. If we're to believe the Brexit referendum result was a symptom of austerity and result of propaganda rather than more than half the country is actual rabidly racist, then Corbyn's message addressing every injustice from austerity and prior cuts through the Brexit bullshit and resonates, as we saw in 2017. Labour's campaign machine learned a lot from 2017 and most of the wreckers that were around then are gone now. This is a time where it is completely appropriate and healthy to feel hopeful, in solidarity with a loving huge movement, backed by a prominent political party that for the first time in over 40 years truly represents the working class. I'm right behind Spangly A on this one. These fuckers haven't got poo poo on us and we're going to beat them, if not this battle, the next one. Not one of us is alone. Solidarity.
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Lol, the one RCPer who still publicly calls himself a Marxist and he's abandoned the only decent position the cult ever had
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justcola posted:- He has lost almost every vote in Parliament and every Cummings plan has backfired Poor old backfiring Cummies   
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Every indication is Bernie's VP is going to be Nina Turner, a black woman leftist who liberals absolutely despise Ooh, that would be nice. It will be quite a practical choice, helping to counter accusations that Bernie it's just another old white guy who doesn't understand minorities. But also, and perhaps more importantly: MORE SOCIALISM! 
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:Lower your expectations. Ludicrous optimism gives way to depression and despair. People experiencing depression and despair regard any optimism as ludicrous. Hope is good. It's the most powerful thing there is 
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Braggart posted:Ooh, that would be nice. It will be quite a practical choice, helping to counter accusations that Bernie it's just another old white guy who doesn't understand minorities. But also, and perhaps more importantly: Yeah it's good. Bernie may only be left wing by American standards, but within that scope he is absolutely not playing.
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namesake posted:I'm going to live forever and hell, so far so good. Everyone is immortal until proven otherwise.
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It's a sad indictment of things where I watched that and it barely raised an eyebrow, unless there's a dogwhistle I missed (I heard "get em out" at the end) Barry Foster posted:Bernie may only be left wing by American standards, but within that scope he is absolutely not playing. TBH a lot of what he says (that I've heard) hasn't been too far from Corbyn's stance, I'd consider him both feet left of the line at least.
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Grey Hunter posted:Everyone is immortal until proven otherwise. peanut- posted:I met Prince Andrew once. In 20 seconds which didn't involve much more than a handshake and "what do you do then?" he managed to give the impression of being an absolutely unspeakable twat. He radiates whatever the antithesis of charisma is like a forcefield.
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peanut- posted:I met Prince Andrew once. In 20 seconds which didn't involve much more than a handshake and "what do you do then?" he managed to give the impression of being an absolutely unspeakable twat. He radiates whatever the antithesis of charisma is like a forcefield. Was his hand dry?
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:Lower your expectations. Ludicrous optimism gives way to depression and despair. HoPe Is a LiE Bundy posted:bitchface Please don’t do this. As much as she’s an arsehole who courts fascists regularly, it’s not cool to call a woman bitchface. Braggart posted:Holy poo poo the comments. But I guess most people who follow the Spiked Twitter account are likely to be cunts As a veteran take miner, there’s some good fodder in there 
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quote:The US president who led his country out of the Great Depression, President Franklin Roosevelt, had to take on the rich and powerful in America to do it. That’s why he said: “They are unanimous in their hate for me, and I welcome their hatred.” Crossposting this from CSPAM because it's important to get this one in your Skills Wallet ASAP.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPtUNeesgp8 A legit good caller on LBC loving destroys Gyimah on their child care policy. e: Sanitary Naptime posted:Please don’t do this. As much as she’s an arsehole who courts fascists regularly, it’s not cool to call a woman bitchface. My apologies, the gendered nature of it didn't even occur to me as it doesn't with "oval office" and it sounded cathartic in my head. Maybe that says something about me. I'll do better. NinpoEspiritoSanto fucked around with this message at 11:57 on Nov 21, 2019 |
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I found on my Facebook the one person in the country who says he actually likes Jo Swinson (and "doesn't particularly like" Jeremy Corbyn). He's still voting Labour though lol
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Guavanaut posted:In a few months you'll be saying that you met him at a charity do once and he was surprisingly down to earth, and VERY funny.
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I would like to join the chorus declaring that we will win this election. A Labour government is the only moral option, and everyone knows it. Yes, the establishment is pulling out all the stops and trying every dirty trick they can imagine to undermine us, but it's not working well enough. It's all falling apart, and as they get more and more desperate they become more and more stupid, and they make worse and worse mistakes. The Right Wing that has dominated the political discourse for so long in this country is finished. Their tricks are no longer sufficient. It was always going to be the case that the game is heavily rigged against us, and it will mean that we won't win by as much as we should. But at this point they cannot stop us winning, and once we have won we can begin to turn the tables. This is not complacency. This is hope, and in one month it will be triumph. There will of course be much more to do afterwards, but we will have the strength to do it. And when the Right has finished licking its wounds and comes crawling back for another round, we will be that much stronger, and we will be ready for them 
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