UKMT November 2019 - Andrew Can't Denounce Epstein Properly

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CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

Bobby Deluxe posted:

I had this bouncing around my brain so now you have to see it too:

https://twitter.com/rantingauthor/status/1197639408696135682?s=19

I have been reliably informed that this is the correct Japanese but the person translating said she "wasn't happy with it," but it's as close as she could get to the original phrase

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# ? Nov 21, 2019 23:25

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# ? May 23, 2024 20:08

coffeetable: Feb 5, 2006; TELL ME AGAIN HOW GREAT BRITAIN WOULD BE IF IT WAS RULED BY THE MERCILESS JACKBOOT OF PRINCE CHARLES

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https://twitter.com/dsquareddigest/status/1197640254636855302

# ? Nov 21, 2019 23:30

TTerrible: Jul 15, 2005

If people are looking for some kind of space to organise that isn't reliant on a provider I'm happy to setup a privately hosted Mattermost (open source Slack alternative) instance. I understand that a random lurker offering to do that should set off alarm bells (and rightly so) but the offer is there.

# ? Nov 21, 2019 23:33

Taitale: Feb 19, 2011

CGI Stardust posted:

statement from Labour on the T portion of LGBT+, which is good (I think? any trans posters confirm?)
https://twitter.com/MissEllieMae/status/1197632658806845444?s=19

Am trans but not from the UK and yeah that addressed most of my concerns with the manifesto. Would still be nice if they had some recognition of NB people but it's still a million miles better than NZ Labour.

# ? Nov 21, 2019 23:42

Pilchenstein: May 17, 2012; So your plan is for half of us to die?; Hot Rope Guy

TTerrible posted:

If people are looking for some kind of space to organise that isn't reliant on a provider I'm happy to setup a privately hosted Mattermost (open source Slack alternative) instance. I understand that a random lurker offering to do that should set off alarm bells (and rightly so) but the offer is there.

Left wing shitposting mastodon instance :v:

Am I right in thinking most of the people purged from twitter today were on their second or third account? Could be they've tightened up their "detecting people who were previously banned" algorithm.

# ? Nov 21, 2019 23:42

TTerrible: Jul 15, 2005

Pilchenstein posted:

Left wing shitposting mastodon instance

Am I right in thinking most of the people purged from twitter today were on their second or third account? Could be they've tightened up their "detecting people who were previously banned" algorithm.

Mastodon just reminds me of ancient adhoc irc networks with people linking and unlinking ircds over rows about Star Trek episodes.

# ? Nov 21, 2019 23:45

Braggart: Nov 10, 2011; always thank the rock hider

That oval office Toby Young in the Spectator posted:

Prince Andrew should have married someone like my wife

Like many people, I watched Prince Andrew�s Newsnight meltdown with mounting disbelief. Why had he agreed to do it? It wasn�t as if the general public was clamouring for an answer about what he was doing on the night he�d been accused of having sex with a 17-year-old victim of Jeffrey Epstein. And if he was going to give a television interview, why choose Emily Maitlis? That�s like booking yourself into Sweeney Todd�s for a short back and sides. Emily asked me to do an interview last year when I was forced to resign from the Office for Students over some embarrassing old tweets and, after humming and hawing for a bit, I declined. Clearly, one of my more sensible decisions.

But my feeling of smugness at having sidestepped that landmine was short-lived. The day after Prince Andrew�s interview was broadcast I got a call from Good Morning Britain. Did I fancy coming on to defend Prince Andrew in a debate? Instead of saying no, I started to discuss what I might say. If he believes himself to be innocent and has a good alibi, as he appears to have, it�s kind of understandable that he would want to clear his name. Yes, it was unrehearsed and he admitted to things he probably shouldn�t have, such as the fact that he stayed in Epstein�s house in New York because it was �convenient�. But didn�t that just make his denial more credible? He�d been criticised for not speaking out about the allegation, and now he was being criticised for doing exactly that.

At this point, I�d pretty much talked myself into it, but before saying yes I glanced up at my wife who was sitting opposite me. Caroline was shaking her head furiously and running her finger back and forth across her throat. �Can I call you back in a minute?� I said.

When I hung up, I got the force nine gale.

�Are you loving insane? He�s the most reviled man in Britain.�

�But I feel a bit sorry for him. He�s being subjected to the Two Minutes Hate and I know what that�s like. Literally no one is defending him apart from Fergie.�

�Yeah, and there�s a good reason for that. Honestly, you amaze me sometimes. It�s as if alienating 99 per cent of the country isn�t enough for you. You have to hunt down that last 1 per cent and make sure you piss them off, too.�

I called the booker back and politely declined. But this exchange left me feeling even more sympathetic towards Andrew. If only he�d married someone level-headed and sensible like I did.

This wasn�t the first time Caroline had saved my bacon. When she learned that my career had been derailed because of sophomoric things I�d said on social media, she literally snatched the phone out of my hands and deleted the Twitter app. Admittedly, she did let me reinstall it about a week later, but only after I�d promised never to tweet after I�d had a glass of wine. And if I worry that an article I�ve written is too provocative, I run it past her first. It�s like being married to a focus group. Come to think of it, it was Caroline who advised me not to go on Newsnight last year. She did a great impression of Emily Maitlis reading out some of my old tweets and then scowling at me in disapproval.

Thinking that you�ll come across well on telly, even when it�s bleedin� obvious to everyone else you�ll look like an idiot, is one of the drawbacks of having a large male ego. I remember asking Louis Theroux how he managed to persuade people like Chris Eubank to let him follow them around with a camera crew, given the risk that he�ll edit the footage to cast them in the worst possible light, and he said he always promises to show them the film before it�s broadcast. �But don�t they end up asking you to take out all the embarrassing bits?� �No,� he said. Apparently, they sit there watching themselves being exposed as complete fools and just nod and smile contentedly. At the end, when any normal person would be chasing Theroux round the room with a flame thrower trying to incinerate any last vestige of footage, they turn to him and say, �Yeah, I�m happy with that.�

Incidentally, I�ve been asked to appear on numerous reality shows, including I�m A Celebrity� Get Me Out of Here! But for some reason, Caroline always threatens to divorce me if I say yes.

This is astounding. When I saw Toby Young's tweets about this article my first thought was "Has he been hacked?" I know Toby Young is extremely stupid, but I didn't think he was this stupid. Defending Prince Andrew now shows unbelievably poor judgement, which is ironic because this entire article is about how Toby Young has poor judgement and wouldn't be able to tie his own shoes without his wife to help him. Did he run this article by her? Did he not worry that it might be a bit provocative? He says he does that, but surely there is no loving way she would have approved of this.

Are we going to get a follow-up article where Toby laddishly complains that he is now in the doghouse for defying the old ball and chain? "I'm in hot water because I am a gigantic moron, but my wife should've protected me from the consequences of my actions. It's actually her fault, just like Prince Andrew's actions are Fergie's fault for not stopping him."

He also chuckles at people for obliviously green lighting content that makes them look like fools while doing exactly the same thing in this loving article.

And that's not even touching on the Toadmeister � who founded a Free School, remember � implying that he would behave the same way Prince Andrew did if nobody stopped him...

:allbuttons:

# ? Nov 21, 2019 23:47

HorseLord: Aug 26, 2014

By the standards of bourgeois and aristo society, molesting children isn't actually a crime. It's a character building tradition that the lower orders aren't allowed to participate.

Isn't that the point of all of those boarding schools? You send your son there, he gets buggered senseless, and then he becomes prime minister.

# ? Nov 21, 2019 23:56

Gum: Mar 9, 2008; _{oho, a rapist

time to try this puppy out}

Braggart posted:

This is astounding. When I saw Toby Young's tweets about this article my first thought was "Has he been hacked?" I know Toby Young is extremely stupid, but I didn't think he was this stupid. Defending Prince Andrew now shows unbelievably poor judgement, which is ironic because this entire article is about how Toby Young has poor judgement and wouldn't be able to tie his own shoes without his wife to help him. Did he run this article by her? Did he not worry that it might be a bit provocative? He says he does that, but surely there is no loving way she would have approved of this.

Are we going to get a follow-up article where Toby laddishly complains that he is now in the doghouse for defying the old ball and chain? "I'm in hot water because I am a gigantic moron, but my wife should've protected me from the consequences of my actions. It's actually her fault, just like Prince Andrew's actions are Fergie's fault for not stopping him."

He also chuckles at people for obliviously green lighting content that makes them look like fools while doing exactly the same thing in this loving article.

And that's not even touching on the Toadmeister � who founded a Free School, remember � implying that he would behave the same way Prince Andrew did if nobody stopped him...

toby young is in epstein's black book

# ? Nov 21, 2019 23:57

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

bump_fn posted:

https://twitter.com/_MichaelOswell_/status/1197505002257965059

"Posadist-Hoxhaist"

:yeah:

# ? Nov 21, 2019 23:57

Lord Ludikrous: Jun 7, 2008; Enjoy your tea...

gently caress me there is actually a new Half Life game coming out and it looks really good.

I�ve decided this is a good omen for the upcoming election.

# ? Nov 21, 2019 23:58

feedmegin: Jul 30, 2008

TTerrible posted:

If people are looking for some kind of space to organise that isn't reliant on a provider I'm happy to setup a privately hosted Mattermost (open source Slack alternative) instance. I understand that a random lurker offering to do that should set off alarm bells (and rightly so) but the offer is there.

Fwiw like half the thread regulars are on Momentum Slack these days. Fabians haven't got poo poo on us as a party within the party.

# ? Nov 21, 2019 23:58

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Can't believe Braggart has just absolutely ruined Comment or Commentariat by posting the next episode's centerpiece right here

# ? Nov 22, 2019 00:01

Bloody Pom: Jun 5, 2011

Bobby Deluxe posted:

I had this bouncing around my brain so now you have to see it too:

https://twitter.com/rantingauthor/status/1197639408696135682?s=19

I have been reliably informed that this is the correct Japanese but the person translating said she "wasn't happy with it," but it's as close as she could get to the original phrase

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Thank you for this :getin:

# ? Nov 22, 2019 00:02

NotJustANumber99: Feb 15, 2012; somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

I only earn 80k a year what about the bloody rich eh?

# ? Nov 22, 2019 00:03

blunt: Jul 7, 2005

NotJustANumber99 posted:

I only earn 80k a year what about the bloody rich eh?

I'm not the 5%! You're the 5%! 🌽

# ? Nov 22, 2019 00:04

el dingo: Mar 19, 2009; Ogres are like onions

Just got back from a mac de marco gig. He informed the crowd that if we didn't vote labour he was gonna hunt us down and slice our faces. The guitarist announced if you think Corbyn is an anti semite you're a loving moron. Good gig

# ? Nov 22, 2019 00:09

NotJustANumber99: Feb 15, 2012; somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

I assume Alan Moore has been mentioned?

# ? Nov 22, 2019 00:10

Braggart: Nov 10, 2011; always thank the rock hider

Gum posted:

toby young is in epstein's black book

Yes I know. It seems he is exactly as thick and self-assured as Prince Andrew, and by his own admission, exactly the same in several other ways :catstare:

# ? Nov 22, 2019 00:14

Ratjaculation: Aug 3, 2007

Lord Ludikrous posted:

gently caress me there is actually a new Half Life game coming out and it looks really good.

I�ve decided this is a good omen for the upcoming election.

what the

# ? Nov 22, 2019 00:23

xtothez: Jan 4, 2004; College Slice

Ratjaculation posted:

what the

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2W0N3uKXmo

# ? Nov 22, 2019 00:25

Bloody Pom: Jun 5, 2011

xtothez posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2W0N3uKXmo

From what I'm reading this a full-length game too, not another VR gimmick sandbox. Kind of a shame it's only for VR though.

# ? Nov 22, 2019 00:31

mediaphage: Mar 22, 2007; Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

xtothez posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2W0N3uKXmo

That�s going to be unbelievable. VR is so good it ruined normal video games for me and this will probably be amazing.

# ? Nov 22, 2019 00:32

Ratjaculation: Aug 3, 2007

It's not what I wanted, but it is now what I want.

Except for I don't like VR ... makes me nauseous. Hopefully they'll release a dumb version.

# ? Nov 22, 2019 00:35

Bloody Pom: Jun 5, 2011

This is set between HL1 and HL2... making it HL1.5. 1.5... is half of 3. The game is called HALF-Life.

HL3 confirmed? :tinfoil:

# ? Nov 22, 2019 00:37

Doctor_Fruitbat: Jun 2, 2013

If it actually controls as well as it looks then that might be what finally sells me on buying a VR kit.

I can't wait for them to release a second, even more genre defining title, then drop the entire concept forever. Valve are the drive-by shitposters of videogaming.

# ? Nov 22, 2019 00:37

Lord Ludikrous: Jun 7, 2008; Enjoy your tea...

I for one am looking forward to headcrabs going from being a mild nuisance to loving terrifying.

# ? Nov 22, 2019 00:43

Tarnop: Nov 25, 2013; Pull me out

400 quid to play half life, they can get hosed

# ? Nov 22, 2019 00:44

Chuka Umana: Apr 30, 2019; by sebmojo

Playing Half Life 2, listening to Radiohead and voting for New Labour like it's 2005.

# ? Nov 22, 2019 00:45

Doctor_Fruitbat: Jun 2, 2013

Tarnop posted:

400 quid to play half life, they can get hosed

Sure, but think of all the VR porn you get to enjoy afterwards, and that one Beat Saber level that's the entire 90 minute audio of Shrek.

# ? Nov 22, 2019 00:46

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

VR is weird because I basically look at it the same way I look at, like, yachts or whatever. Probably fascinating in some way but entirely for people who live in a different world.

Or like those silly expensive designer clothes or whatever. Sure there's some people really into it but it's just not for normal people.

# ? Nov 22, 2019 00:49

Necrothatcher: Mar 26, 2005

OwlFancier posted:

VR is weird because I basically look at it the same way I look at, like, yachts or whatever. Probably fascinating in some way but entirely for people who live in a different world.

Or like those silly expensive designer clothes or whatever. Sure there's some people really into it but it's just not for normal people.

I got a second hand PSVR and controllers for about £100. I mean, I already owned the PS4, but it felt pretty cheap to get going.

# ? Nov 22, 2019 00:53

willie_dee: Jun 21, 2010; I obtain sexual gratification from observing people being inflicted with violent head injuries

NotJustANumber99 posted:

I only earn 80k a year what about the bloody rich eh?

Are we sure that guy didn�t confuse 80k with 18k?

# ? Nov 22, 2019 00:55

winegums: Dec 21, 2012

https://twitter.com/bbcquestiontime/status/1197651546940608514

Richard Burgon isn't a great communicator. He really just could've stuck to the topic here instead of crowbarring in stuff about billionaires. Or flat out said "if you're on 80k, you'll be paying an extra �8 a month so people don't die on the streets, so kids don't go to school hungry, so grannies aren't dying of urosepsis on trollies in hospital corridors. If that's too much for you to pay, just loving abstain from the vote you utter oval office".

The audience guy was a moron and really handed this to Burgon by flat out denial of reality and he still kinda flubbed it.

# ? Nov 22, 2019 00:56

gh0stpinballa: Mar 5, 2019

i mean we all remember when toby young was posting horny tweets about an underage actress don't we? i didn't hallucinate that?

# ? Nov 22, 2019 00:57

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Chuka Umana posted:

Playing Half Life 2, listening to Radiohead and voting for New Labour like it's 2005.

I did none of those in 2005 :toot:

gh0stpinballa posted:

i mean we all remember when toby young was posting horny tweets about an underage actress don't we? i didn't hallucinate that?

Shocked that the man who went to a nonce convention with important nonce philosophy like "is it still noncing if the child is asleep?" might be a nonce.

OwlFancier posted:

VR is weird because I basically look at it the same way I look at, like, yachts or whatever. Probably fascinating in some way but entirely for people who live in a different world.

Or like those silly expensive designer clothes or whatever. Sure there's some people really into it but it's just not for normal people.

You can turn any smartphone from the past 5 years into a form of VR with a �10 cardboard rig.

# ? Nov 22, 2019 01:00

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

gh0stpinballa posted:

i mean we all remember when toby young was posting horny tweets about an underage actress don't we? i didn't hallucinate that?

Didn't he also say he couldn't work as a teacher because he'd try and shag all the girls?

# ? Nov 22, 2019 01:09

mehall: Aug 27, 2010

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Didn't he also say he couldn't work as a teacher because he'd try and shag all the girls?

Pretty sure that was Rod Liddle

# ? Nov 22, 2019 01:10

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

mehall posted:

Pretty sure that was Rod Liddle

Possibly, they all look alike to me. I mean I know they're physically about as different-looking as two middle-class white Tories can get, but my mental picture of them is obscured by the word oval office in thirty-foot-high letters of fire.

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Julio Cruz: May 19, 2006

also was it him who wrote an article about going on a "romantic" holiday with his daughter

# ? Nov 22, 2019 01:15

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