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UnknownTarget posted:Ok so if transcending humanity isn't...the dream of Star Citizen (seriously what are you on if you're tripping?) then what is the dream of Star Citizen? The thing that's so ground-breaking that makes them worth $300 million USD and excuses every one of their delays? What is the dream? At this point, I don't have a loving clue. I came across that head bobbing 'fix' video, thought it was interesting, looked for an appropriate place to post it and found this thread, and then it got taken all the wrong ways possible. Also my replies in this thread are due to my general tiredness of life on this planet and constant dreaming of something more .. sci-fi.
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UnknownTarget posted:Ok so if transcending humanity isn't...the dream of Star Citizen (seriously what are you on if you're tripping?) then what is the dream of Star Citizen? The thing that's so ground-breaking that makes them worth $300 million USD and excuses every one of their delays? What is the dream? Having a bunch of people licking your space boots for the chance of being able to clean the toilets of your mega ship. That's the dream. Ambaire posted:At this point, I don't have a loving clue. I came across that head bobbing 'fix' video, thought it was interesting, looked for an appropriate place to post it and found this thread, and then it got taken all the wrong ways possible. Also my replies in this thread are due to my general tiredness of life on this planet and constant dreaming of something more .. sci-fi. https://www.vrchat.com/ Go hog wild! trucutru fucked around with this message at 02:50 on Nov 22, 2019 |
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Nov 22, 2019 02:48
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Ambaire posted:At this point, I don't have a loving clue. I came across that head bobbing 'fix' video, thought it was interesting, looked for an appropriate place to post it and found this thread, and then it got taken all the wrong ways possible. Also my replies in this thread are due to my general tiredness of life on this planet and constant dreaming of something more .. sci-fi.  at the bolded bit.Check out the VR game that not-con-artists Valve are making if you're looking to disappear into the matrix, friendo.
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Nov 22, 2019 02:49
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Ambaire posted:Star Citizen is a fun thought experiment and fuel for daydreams but I do agree it doesn't seem to be going anywhere real. The underlying tragedy is this: if a real game developer had been given hundreds of millions of dollars, they could have developed and released a game far superior to Star Citizen, in far less time. Any game developer on the planet has infinitely more ability and imagination than Chris Roberts (this is a basic law of nature; all other laws of physics derive from it) and so the game could have been absolutely fantastic. In a very real way, what CIG has done is taken the money that could have been used to make an insanely good game, burned it all, and salted the earth where the idea once stood. It's a real shame, because there was real demand for something a bit more arcade than Elite, a bit more metal than NMS, a bit more expansive than RGO, and so on. A mixed-genre space game that did exceptionally well at all the little disparate pieces could have been incredible. But the absolutely ludicrous, almost pathological, focus on absolutely the wrong things hamstrung this project right out of the gate. Fidelity eyelids, "controlling the spaceman who is controlling the ship," whisky ice cubes, Johnny Four-Jackets, motion-captured bartenders, fidelity eggs, ramps. Moons.
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Nov 22, 2019 02:49
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…and anyway, the EVE Trinity trailer remains the best in terms of visual wow factor at the time of its release.
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Nov 22, 2019 02:50
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The space game I dream of incorporates all the best parts of Factorio, Satisfactory, Elite Dangerous, No Man's Sky, and Kerbal Space Program. I'm not entirely sure how it would all mesh together but it would be awesome. Sadly, it will most likely forever languish in my most feverish dreams.
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Nov 22, 2019 02:52
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Ambaire posted:When a human child is born, they have had no first hand experience with the world. Should we, therefore, decree that as they have no life experience, they should be denied life experience? Should scientists never attempt to discover something that has not been discovered? Should engineers not attempt to make fantastical machinery to solve new problems? from the bottom of my heart, thank you
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Nov 22, 2019 02:56
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people keep talking about their dreams but never actually sit down and think about how to make those dreams real. or I guess the ones that do are the failed kickstarters and early access survival games
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Nov 22, 2019 02:56
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Ambaire posted:The space game I dream of incorporates all the best parts of Factorio, Satisfactory, Elite Dangerous, No Man's Sky, and Kerbal Space Program. I'm not entirely sure how it would all mesh together but it would be awesome. Sadly, it will most likely forever languish in my most feverish dreams. Not if you believe CR's words. It'll all happen, right down to procedural birds.
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lolAmbaire posted:Today among other things I discovered that it is possible for KDF to obtain access to the Earth Space Dock, after dying rather spectacularly to a certain Orion KDF seducing a security officer next to where I was trying to train bridge officers.
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Nov 22, 2019 02:59
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like, actually think about the work needed to setup an environment of Newtonian colliders, to make a shared pool so you're not butchering the cache instancing them on whatever random chunks the heap gives you, and the work needed to keep float precision high enough that your collisions will be reliably detected at the speeds you're allowing in your game. it's an intricate dance of structure, intent, and testing that all come together to make an imaginary world real, if only for a moment or no, we could dream about the potential of that reality. the real world is dumb, it has imaginary spaceships but we have to actually design them
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Nov 22, 2019 03:01
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Sarsapariller posted:I'm glad we finally have a crobbeliever, or at least someone faking it convincingly enough to stir people up. The thread needs more variety even if it comes in the form of lukewarm owns and stilted rhetoric. If Crobear doesn’t come visit us before the end I’m going to be sorely disappointed. Here’s some mood music while we wait: SOUNDS AND MUSIC OF ARCCORP IS PLAYED BACKWARDS quote:Walking around most if not all places of Area 18, the ambient sounds and music is played back backwards. Sounding like demonic words and terrible screechy sounds. (Personally have had this bug since 3.5 PTU release) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzJ-qyEDarM (And no I will not stop posting bugs XD) Pixelate fucked around with this message at 03:07 on Nov 22, 2019 |
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Nov 22, 2019 03:05
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Good Dumplings posted:the real world is dumb, it has imaginary spaceships but we have to actually design them
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Ambaire posted:The space game I dream of incorporates all the best parts of Factorio, Satisfactory, Elite Dangerous, No Man's Sky, and Kerbal Space Program. I'm not entirely sure how it would all mesh together but it would be awesome. Sadly, it will most likely forever languish in my most feverish dreams. Honestly that's understandable. Star Citizen is not that game. It's an extraction device for money from the wallets of whales, $2,500 at a time. (For things that won't be in the game for years.)
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Nov 22, 2019 03:09
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Y'all be nice to our new friend. Their posts are a refreshing change just in time for citcon and if you all start tilting at windmills you're gonna ruin everything.
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Nov 22, 2019 03:11
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Beet Wagon posted:Y'all be nice to our new friend. Their posts are a refreshing change just in time for citcon and if you all start tilting at windmills you're gonna ruin everything. So it's like a Chris-mas miracle.
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Nov 22, 2019 03:14
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When's citizencon? Me and my partner always try and watch them even if we can't keep up with the drama day to day. Also did the star citizen thread recap go off site? I loved reading that but I appreciate its a lot of effort o7 commandos
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Nov 22, 2019 03:15
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Beet Wagon posted:...just in time for citcon and if you all start tithing at windmills you're gonna ruin everything.
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Nov 22, 2019 03:16
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no_recall posted:ITS TIME FOR THE ANNUAL ShitizenConned 2019 Raffle! $262,114,501 #IBelieveInChris
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Nov 22, 2019 03:17
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Ambaire posted:The space game I dream of incorporates all the best parts of Factorio, Satisfactory, Elite Dangerous, No Man's Sky, and Kerbal Space Program. I'm not entirely sure how it would all mesh together but it would be awesome. Sadly, it will most likely forever languish in my most feverish dreams. Dude you are just the king/queen of melodrama aren't you? Sounds like you should work on improving your life and mental state rather than trying to disappear in an impossible game. That being said; If a game replicates reality well enough to replace it, why wouldn't living in that game suck just as much as being alive in the real world?
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Updates: WHEN IS SHITCON STARTING? CLICK > https://timee.io/20191123T1300?tl=CItizenCon 34 hours as of this post. It's going to be interesting as the raffle ends in the middle of the sale before the big ships. Good luck all! Agony Aunt I'm going for a cool 260 million. Jobbo_Fett 247,861,935 Dogeh $262, 426, 969 monkeytek $248,424,242 Bubbacub $247,696,969 Quavers $250,424,242 spacetoaster 1$ Thoatse 247,420,069 his nibs $265,227,605 Baxta 258,522,420 Kosumo $248,457,941 (Just like Chris Roberts game design, I too pulled it out of my rear end) Zaphod42 1m Koil $251,947,069 jarlywarly $255,328,603 Jonny Shiloh $261,135,996 +/- $1 Sanya Juutilainen 255,420,069 Mr.PayDay so I am going with $252,020,24. Peter.Quint $254,603,497 UnknownTarget 250,000,000 precision $255,743,119 Zazz Razzamatazz $267,999,999 Bofast $267,593,481 Inacio 258,000,000 GoingPostal $258,895,345 in successful jpeg sales. Viscous Soda $242,779,811.99 TheAgent $246,948,655 AutismVaccine 252,080,085 Spatial 246,512,768 h3isenbug 256,789,012 Sabreseven $248,902,021 Dragonrah $253,769,823 Ponzi $265,000,000 Zzr $251,227,605 downout $253,112,149.45 Blue On Blue $260,000,000.69 The Titanic This will bring them to around: $249,842,042.42 Sandweed $246,948,658 Dark Off 249 million euros (250 million euros was already taken) Dwesa $248,420,069 DigitalPenny $252,639,487.69 Taintrunner $245,150,420 Orions Lord $266.666.666 Colostomy Bag 263,100,100 commando in tophat $262,424,244 zebedy $251,000,000 Kikas Sign me up for 265,213,721 dollaridoos Beexoffel My guess:$246,473,284. Bootcha In honor of the new SQ54, $254,545,454. Hazamuth $257,024,024 Barfolemew $251,345,678 Aramoro I'm going to go for the mathematically calculated value of 242199498 Iceclaw Put me down at a cool255,000,000. 1500 $261,227,605 Midnight Voyager $255,420,693 SoMoteItBe $254,421,541 Differo Cathedra $262,114,501 #IBelieveInChris
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Communist Thoughts posted:Also did the star citizen thread recap go off site? I loved reading that but I appreciate its a lot of effort It's been a few years since any of the thread regulars could muster the effort to do much beyond occasionally writing a couple of paragraphs to answer a question about SC jargon. CIG has been on auto pilot since 3.0 and has settled into a comfortable pattern every quarter - update the roadmap with big and anticipated items, create a minor unforced PR blunder that ruffles the feathers of backers for a few days, delay the big and anticipated items, hype the remaining smaller improvements, then spend the first month of the next quarter hot-fixing the broken release. It's kinda the same thing over and over, and things that would have been big dramas pre-3.0 (throwing out/refactoring the roadmap, ship sales fuckery) are no longer remarkable. CitCon will be the only thing worth paying attention to for the next couple of years, because it is the only time where we get to witness the full blown id of Chris Roberts, and is when they reset everybody's expectations for the next twelve months with a fresh batch of bullshit. In 2018 'the road to release' was publishing a patch with OCS at the convention, followed by buying/renting ships, organisation system, full persistence, and server meshing. In 2019 they have done the two 'easy' things (ship rentals, and some rudimentary guild org stuff), whereas the 'hard' engine tech is nowhere in sight, and they still haven't even properly finished OCS. So I'm looking forward to learning about the on-ramp to the road to release this weekend.
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TheAgent posted:if we could not bash a bunch of people for looking a little nerdy tho, that would be cool Did I miss something, how is that bashing ppl for looking nerdy?
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Agony Aunt posted:Half past swindle. It's a well past swindle, i think it's 30 to theft
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Beet Wagon posted:I love how hard he's been trying to make that meme a thing lol.   
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Hav posted:Yikes. You know nothing about game development you fudster. TRY HARDER. What have you done? probably some rando mopping floors. Let me tell you about real game development. Actually why don't I show you ... https://robertsspaceindustries.com/ you can find all your answers there. Buy an Idris if you dare
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Ambaire posted:They want to have it feel realistic. ok I watched, he's wrong about go-pros, go-pros do have camera stabilization, 3rd person bodies have existed in 1st person games for well over 15 years now, so thats not new either, stop buying into the bullshit, also that guy probably doesn't work for CI anymore so besides nothing in the video being actually true, because the despite head bobbing in star citizen being pretty bad, was made to look worse in that video just to "prove" they were working on fixing something. Edit: Just to expand on this; We are not just an echo chamber of negativity because we are some hivemind, we are negative towards everything about this project because there is nothing positive to say about it. I would love to be proven wrong anything CI actually does that is good and heading in the direction of what they promise to people. But time and time again, they just show that the people working on this are completely incompetent/ actively lying on a camera such as the video you posted. scamming people who are completely doey eyed over a .jpg space ship website or a series that died in the era of FMV. Don't believe their BS, nothing that they state actually gets delivered. stingtwo fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Nov 22, 2019 |
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I hate star citizen so much, laughing at this piece of poo poo video game over the course of several years has made me very angry
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Sarsapariller posted:Gonna guess based on the lack of jpeg that the "goodies," even as rudimentary as they are, do not even exist but just think of what might be in the digital goodies bag!! It could be anything !!! That's got to be a good deal. I reckon it could be a sand worm egg... So you can start your own sand worm farm in space! I bet when my worm grows up I could use it to make my own caves !!!
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Colostomy Bag posted:I'm not sure what is more comical. I'll go with: 4) The "Citizens" from CitCon trying to recruit dentists into the Star Citizen scam. Of course, dentists may be receptive, since SC is about as fun as pulling teeth at this point.
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Viscous Soda posted:I'll go with: No offense to any dentists here, but as a whole, dentists are gullible as hell. There was a dude selling fake Subway franchises to dentists on the east coast of the US a few years back who would have gotten away with several million dollars if he had known when to quit.
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:this thread is not an echo chamber
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no_recall posted:Looking back at the raffle spreadsheets, this thread has given more game than Star Citizen has. This is fake news, I already had Hellblade so I gave the copy I won to TheAgent.
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"Have you ever had a dream that you, um, you had, your, you- you could, you’ll do, you- you wants, you, you could do so, you- you’ll do, you could- you, you want, you want them to do you so much you could do anything?" :Crobberts:
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Solarin posted:I hate star citizen so much, laughing at this piece of poo poo video game over the course of several years has made me very angry Lets turborub!
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Communist Thoughts posted:When's citizencon? Me and my partner always try and watch them even if we can't keep up with the drama day to day. https://pricelesstrainwreck.github.io/
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Raskolnikov posted:"Have you ever had a dream that you, um, you had, your, you- you could, you’ll do, you- you wants, you, you could do so, you- you’ll do, you could- you, you want, you want them to do you so much you could do anything?"
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