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T-man posted:No dyed hair B) A shameful leftist FAKE EDIT: a shameful snipe
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T-man posted:I get 7 and I'm a marxist trans feminist with an honest to god degree in gender I had LASIK like a decade and half ago.  So checkmate to all chuds out there.
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Nov 22, 2019 05:26
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Ok. I give. Wtf is the galaxy brain interpretation of The Giving Tree. Cause I think some goons didnt get it.
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Nov 22, 2019 05:28
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The Giving Tree by Ayn Rand
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Nov 22, 2019 05:39
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Bombadilillo posted:Ok. I give. Wtf is the galaxy brain interpretation of The Giving Tree. Cause I think some goons didnt get it. The negative read I'm familiar with is that the relationship between the boy and the tree isn't a healthy one, with the tree completely sacrificing herself for the boy. See this column for example.
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Nov 22, 2019 06:40
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We regret to inform you the tree is racist.
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Powered Descent posted:We regret to inform you the tree is racist. I didn't know it was a birch.
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The Tree Who Gives
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Apropos of nothing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BndQrmT_ytg
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Bombadilillo posted:Ok. I give. Wtf is the galaxy brain interpretation of The Giving Tree. Cause I think some goons didnt get it. Some rear end in a top hat kid keeps taking stuff from a talking tree until it has nothing left, and grownups found that charming instead of thoughtless, greedy, and irresponsible. I hated that book as a kid, and never understood why it was a beloved classic.
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Bombadilillo posted:Ok. I give. Wtf is the galaxy brain interpretation of The Giving Tree. Cause I think some goons didnt get it. 
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there wolf posted:Some rear end in a top hat kid keeps taking stuff from a talking tree until it has nothing left, and grownups found that charming instead of thoughtless, greedy, and irresponsible. I hated that book as a kid, and never understood why it was a beloved classic. That and The Runaway Bunny always gave me the chills.
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Nov 22, 2019 07:38
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Yeah it's this. It's not that the Giving Tree is bad, it's that some people expect others to be their Giving Tree, which is wildly selfish.
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Nov 22, 2019 07:58
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Is it wrong to think it's creepy that someone's request for emotional support was used as a way to attack people for asking for emotional support the wrong way on Twitter?
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Nov 22, 2019 08:07
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Is it wrong to think it's creepy that someone's request for emotional support was used as a way to attack people for asking for emotional support the wrong way on Twitter? Yeah basically this. People reposted her (requested) response framework as if it was meant to be used verbatim and not a general way of approaching the fraught topic of turning down a friend's request for assistance. So, so many people took umbrage at the idea of
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Nov 22, 2019 08:23
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I always thought The Giving Tree was about a parent raising a child and how you basically have to put them above yourself and give them every part of yourself because you want them to succeed through life, or at least have it easier than you did. But if you view the tree and the boy as equals, instead, e.g. as a metaphor for friends or what have you, then yeah it probably gets pretty hosed up.
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zoux posted:So why didn’t these rich white politicians get an abortion in the next state over
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Nov 22, 2019 08:29
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Somfin posted:Yeah basically this. People reposted her (requested) response framework as if it was meant to be used verbatim and not a general way of approaching the fraught topic of turning down a friend's request for assistance. I was talking about the original thing she posted where someone was asking for help that she used as a springboard for that thread (which I haven't read). Someone asked her for help and she turned it into a giant shitstorm on Twitter, possibly without the consent of whoever sent it to her in the first place. i find that creepy. Unless she wrote that herself as a fictional example.
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Nov 22, 2019 08:36
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I was talking about the original thing she posted where someone was asking for help that she used as a springboard for that thread (which I haven't read). Someone asked her for help and she turned it into a giant shitstorm on Twitter, possibly without the consent of whoever sent it to her in the first place. i find that creepy. She didn't turn it into a shitstorm, she mentioned how nice it was that her friend approached things the way she did and explained why Shitheads who can't bear the idea of someone not being 100% emotionally available at all times decided to pretend otherwise
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Nov 22, 2019 08:40
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It's perfectly healthy to browbeat your friends into speaking to each other in bloodless HR tones about their feelings.
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Nov 22, 2019 08:59
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Somfin posted:She didn't turn it into a shitstorm, she mentioned how nice it was that her friend approached things the way she did and explained why There was definitely a lot of that but the template she provided (which was absolutely requested by someone like you said and not something she made up to make an example of her friend) was honestly kinda (really) bad and read more like an automated out of the office email response from an HR manager than a response to a friend in an emotional crisis you can't deal with. Not that that deserved the uproar it created. Someone made some responses that sound a little less formal just in case anyone does struggle to gently tell a friend that they're dealing with their own poo poo. https://twitter.com/MxKantEven/status/1197537025303482369?s=19
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Nov 22, 2019 09:03
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Hay guys check out this emotional labour dress, some say it's blue some say it's gold! The correct answer will SHOCK you!
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GEORGE W BUSHI posted:There was definitely a lot of that but the template she provided (which was absolutely requested by someone like you said and not something she made up to make an example of her friend) was honestly kinda (really) bad and read more like an automated out of the office email response from an HR manager than a response to a friend in an emotional crisis you can't deal with. Not that that deserved the uproar it created. Someone made some responses that sound a little less formal just in case anyone does struggle to gently tell a friend that they're dealing with their own poo poo. I love the bit in her post where she said that you had to use the template precisely, removing sections as appropriate, and recommended doing exactly that grittyreboot posted:It's perfectly healthy to browbeat your friends into speaking to each other in bloodless HR tones about their feelings. I love the bit in the thread where that happened and it isn't just you projecting
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Somfin posted:I love the bit in her post where she said that you had to use the template precisely, removing sections as appropriate, and recommended doing exactly that You have to rewrite that whole thing to sound like anything resembling a human being so it's completely useless to anyone who is too anxious to formulate their own response.
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Somfin posted:I love the bit in her post where she said that you had to use the template precisely, removing sections as appropriate, and recommended doing exactly that OK dude.
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Somfin posted:
The bit in the thread where that happened was the text her friend sent right at the start: https://twitter.com/fyeahmfabello/status/1196551284914098177?s=19 That's not how someone asks for support. That's how someone talks to their boss. It's almost timid. How I read that was that she had already ground her friends down about the specific language they use. Most people are mocking her for the distance of her language and the misappropriation of the term emotional labor. Believe it or not plenty of people already ask consent for support, but it's more "Hey, can I get something off my chest?" She felt the need to add some bizarre doctor patient veneer over a common human interaction.
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Nov 22, 2019 10:11
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I know more than a few incredibly socially anxious people who are capable of talking to people under most normal circumstances but under stress like this have literally asked for examples on how to talk to someone about sensitive or vulnerable topics. I think this was a hypothetical template that was made more to demonstrate a concept than be used in copy-pasted correspondence, and people framing it as browbeating friends(?) or turning relationships into office memos aren't being entirely fair about the discussion.
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Nov 22, 2019 10:13
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Vib Rib posted:I know more than a few incredibly socially anxious people who are capable of talking to people under most normal circumstances but under stress like this have literally asked for examples on how to talk to someone about sensitive or vulnerable topics. I think this was a hypothetical template that was made more to demonstrate a concept than be used in copy-pasted correspondence, and people framing it as browbeating friends(?) or turning relationships into office memos aren't being entirely fair about the discussion. There are so many thinkpieces about this that are worse than the thread could have ever been
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Fister Roboto posted:Yeah it's this. It's not that the Giving Tree is bad, it's that some people expect others to be their Giving Tree, which is wildly selfish. If you want a kids book that’s actively wtf there’s always Love You Forever about a mom who sneaks into her teenaged sons room on all fours like a freak animal in the night to pick him up and cradle him and later on when he’s a grown adult she drives to his house and climbs up a ladder through his window to do the same thing
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Why give my kids these books when I should just read them The Enigma of Amigara Fault so they know they will still suffer the sins of their ancestors forever
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grittyreboot posted:That's not how someone asks for support. That's how someone talks to their boss. It's almost timid. How I read that was that she had already ground her friends down about the specific language they use.
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This is how you're supposed to ask for permission to vent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUTGr5t3MoY
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nope this is the proper way https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT8h4UmuN1Q
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Aesop Poprock posted:If you want a kids book that’s actively wtf there’s always Love You Forever about a mom who sneaks into her teenaged sons room on all fours like a freak animal in the night to pick him up and cradle him and later on when he’s a grown adult she drives to his house and climbs up a ladder through his window to do the same thing Yeah, woof. Looking through that book like 30 years later was a real wth moment. Dr Seuss is another weird one, which isn't a controversial statement. But some books like One Fish Two Fish and The Thinks You Can Think really skirt the edge of Lovecraftian horror. If you take the "plot" of One Fish Two Fish, it's about two kids watching a parade of monstrosities coming from and going to unknown locations. Here's my favorite page from that book, which is very fun to real slowly and softly to an attentive toddler:  It'd be a good prompt for a horror short.
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Nice back seat headroom there champ.
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That things got max headroom pal
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Powered Descent posted:We regret to inform you the tree is racist. christmas boots posted:I didn't know it was a birch. 
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